How durable is your Virus?

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Loose knob caps/worn out buttons.......Not really a problem because machanical parts always work loose and wear out over time. All of my old analogues are stuck together with glue :oops: ! But just out of interest ....has anyone here had any problems with knob caps, buttons or noisy modwheels.

The knob cap on my Virus KC worked loose (and eventually came off after 2 days)......but this kind of thing doesnt bother me....we dont live in a perfect world :wink:

DS

[unio mystica]

The cutoff1/... knob of my just recently second-hand bought virus rack is irritatingly loose. But I don?t need any of the knobs now. I now control almost all of my eguipment with novation remote25 (and still of course use my RM1X which I will marry one day :wink: ). The knob is so loose that it doesn?t work almost at all. But I got it really (I mean really really) cheap :D . 500$ :D x1001

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

RM1x.......some people think its crap...but I think its a pretty useful tool!

BTW I should be getting my replacement Virus sometime next week yeehaa.

DS

[Blank]

Its good to see you decided to send it back, because 2 days is just rediculous for something to wear off like that...now with unio's problem he has a second hand virus which most likely is passed warranty...which u should check out unio if its not u should send it back....

peace
Blank

[hardmandez]

Never had a problem with my current virus and I have been using it almost daily for 2 years now. All knobs and buttons seem to be like new. I love this thing to bits though so treat it very well.

I did have to send back my first virus. Had a weird chasis twist, you know push down one corner and the opposite corner raises of the table. DV were very good though and had picked up my problem Virus and sent me a new one within few days.

BTW how is the RM1x I was thinking of getting one for sequencing and the sounds sound OK too. How's track editing through that little screen.

[udenjoe]

It's really hard to get four points exactly right. I think it's the advantage of heavy equipment. The squishy pads find the level. My indigo doesn't seem to wobble. I would say "give it some twist" in the factory years ago. Then weld it down. I haven't had knob problems with anything yet. Even the ms2000 knobs that are like toy knobs havent busted. Although I think the ms2000 wobbles.

[Blank]

I havent had any real bad problems every once and awhile my knobs might twist a little different like it has no grip...and my ms2000 doesnt wobble, but i will say those knobs suc they r like toy knobs..!!

peace
Blank

[Tomer=Trance]

the knobes are realy sensitive i hate that
is it the same with your virus knobes guys?

[Blank]

the knobs on mine r not very sensitive but the knobs on my ms2000 r way too sensitive...most of the time i use sounddiver so i can to more precise editing...

peace
Blank

and what do u mean by sensitive just to make sure!!

[Tomer=Trance]

i move it very gently to the left and it jumps from 127 to 0
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its a nightmare to record automation :)
it takes me about 5 minuts till i get it right :?

[Blank]

have u changed the way the knob mode? irelative, relative...etc?

peace
Blank

its under system menu

[Tomer=Trance]

no havent try that
will chack

[Blank]

Well check it out in the manual and let me know if it helps!!

peace
Blank

[Kiddhardware]

My virus kb has lived as rough live. It's been knocked off my kb stand twice, once breaking output 1 L & R and bending and denting the back plate and the other twisting the chassis. Also two keys have been broken by my guitar player droping his ax on it. The keyboard controller crystal was defective only exposing itself after os installs above 4.5 and was replaced. The Mod wheel screws became loose and fell out. Now it freezes randomly but more often when the room tempature is higher and with patches having long release times. Access support has been A++++ Like the scars on my body, each mark on my virus kb has a story. Though it's a little less durable than my Nord Lead 2, probably due to the heavy keys, I still keep it very clean and take good care of it and don't see parting with it ever.

Kiddhardware

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

About 4-5 weeks ago...I went a bit mad :roll: >> http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/viewtopic.php?t=1368

It wasnt the European heatwave making me mad..........No sir. It was the fact that on the 15th Aug my Virus KC went back to Germany b'cos of a cracked key(Not through neglect on my part). The truth is, I just cannot believe the run of bad luck ive had with the Virus KC.....Ive had to return 3 defective Virus' since June '03. Ive had very little time to get to know my Virus.....and sometimes I think to myself that it was a mistake buying it :cry:

*When I originally joined this forum...I had the intention of contributing something positive, to share and design sounds, to share tips and to exchange knowledge..........

As of 17th of Sept I'm still without my Virus :( According to my dealer...the Virus is still in Germany and hasnt been repaired yet. I cannot adequatley express to you guys how genuinely pissed off I am. Do any of you guys think im having exceptionally bad luck?

DS

[TommyS]

Shit happens. :(

Get a desktop version and a large midi keyboard.

Then you`ll not have any problems. The major amount of defects are on the KC model for some reason.

:D

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Hmmm.....that would make sense. Do you know that as matter of fact or rumor?

This whole experience concerns me a little. Did all you guys know...that if something goes wrong...your unit will have to be sent back to Germany to be fixed? Im suprised there are no Access technical guys in the UK that cant fix the problem. Its really inconvenient to have to wait 5 + weeks to get the problem fixed. Whats gonna happen if in 10yrs time Access disapear? Who's gonna be repairing/service the Virus then?

I hope Access are stockpiling parts for their synthesizers...b'cos in my experience digital synths start fuking up after 12-15 yrs (cheap digital components and plastic knobs/low profile buttons etc etc).

Ah well....thats life I guess

DS

[TommyS]

Ive heard a few other people having problems with the KC on other forums such as future producers. They had problems with the knobs and keys becoming faulty.

:D

[Hollowcell]

hey there DS...ya back mate! i was wondering what u have been up to?!

[Hollowcell]

sorry bout that, a bit off topic there!

touch wood, i havent had any trouble with my VC yet!!

although recently i caught my wife using it a table!! she was stacking stuff on top of it when she was moving stuff around!! she is too cute to get mad at, so i just asked her nicely not to do it again...hehe

[Tomer=Trance]

hehe :lol:
my mom always put stuff on my rack (but not like you i always get mad :D )

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

I start back at university on the 26th Sept. The past 4 weeks or so have been hectic...Ive been frantically getting rdy and getting my finances sorted.

The last time I took a synth down to uni (Juno60) it got used as a musical cocktail bar lmao. They aint touching my Virus hehe


Ah! HC Ive just seen youve put up you first Virus song...Ill go check it out now.....hehe

Generally speaking what have you guys been upto? Made any sounds/songs?

DS

[Juho L]

Generally speaking what have you guys been upto?

I've proved Blank that electroacoustic guitar exists, but he still doesn't believe it.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

hehehe

I was reading on cnn that scientists have found a black hole in outer space transmitting a noise towards earth. Apparently its 57 octaves below middle c........thats a fucking low! Hmmm I wonder whether any of u guys could make an in-audiably low pitch with ur Virus'.

DS

[Juho L]

Hmmm I wonder whether any of u guys could make an in-audiably low pitch with ur Virus'.

Osc 1 to sine and -48, bend down to -64, transpose keyboard to -2 octaves and hit lowest C. Voil?.

But the internal caps may start to filter out the frequencies below 20Hz.

At least my mixer didn't react to the ultra low sine at all. Just faint "snap" and that's it.

If you want a low sound from your Virus:
1. Tear off the case
2. Find the DA-converter
3. Build your own 24-bit DA-converter with an opamp and 25 resistors with binary wighted values (1st. 1ohm, 2nd 2ohm, 3rd 4ohm... 24th 8388608ohm) Find the closest E-standard resistor values and use 10Mohm resistor on the feedback.
4. Solder your DA-converter on Virus' digital output.
5. Feed an amplifier with the output and get ready for rumble, which no speaker can produce. So in other words the DA-converter you just built is useless.

[saba]

[quote=DIGITAL SCREAMS]But the internal caps may start to filter out the frequencies below 20Hz.

If anything the caps will smooth out those low frquency's, since the higher blips jitters and interferences have to take time to cross a capacitor.
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[Juho L]

If anything the caps will smooth out those low frquency's, since the higher blips jitters and interferences have to take time to cross a capacitor.

There's usually cap/resistor HP filter, which starts to slowly cut 20Hz and lower frequencies so in 1Hz there's so much damping that the signal is inaudible. This is because of error situations where there might be a constant DC output voltage which can harm other devices.

[saba]

Surely a Zener diode would be used to keep it regulated, at least.
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[Juho L]

Surely a Zener diode would be used to keep it regulated, at least.

Nope. Zener only restricts the output level. It doesn't give any protect from undesired DC situations.

[Caelum 7]

I've had a KB for quite some time. It is the master keyboard in my setup, and the keys are still very solid after daily use over the years. The knobs have always seemed pretty fragile to me, so I've always been careful with them, and have had no problems. Everything is exactly as it was when I first opened the box a few years back - but mainly because I baby this thing, and it does not move from it's spot on the studio desk.