What is the Fattest sounding synth you have ever used?

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

The fattest sounding synths ive ever used are:

Jupiter 8
Mono/Poly
Pro-One

How about you guys?

DS

[Tomer=Trance]

TB303
MC202
Virus :D hehe
Jupiter 8
the juno's are kind of fat.... :)
MOOG!!! every thing that guy ever did!! :twisted:

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Seriously Tommer have u tried out all those synths?

Even a JP-8 ??!!!

muhahahah

Personally I wouldnt say the 303 is that fat sounding (1 osc!). Yep the Juno 60 is very fat for just 1 osc....thx to the great analog chorus. Moog yep there pretty nice. Virus....ermmmm wot u running it through lol j/k

DS

[unio mystica]

Virus
Jp-8000

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Unio....you got a JP8000?

I think the JP8000 has some very good digital sounds in it :)

DS

[unio mystica]

No I don?t but i?ve briefly tried one of my friends.

[unio mystica]

No I don?t but i?ve briefly tried one of my friends.

[Tomer=Trance]

oh shit the topic said used ?! :D
well i want to add the waldorf Q to my list
and i will remove the jupiter and the tb and the mc... :D
oh yeah and the moog's too 8)

[udenjoe]

ms2000 and the Virus. 8)

Edit: Machinedrum too. Ah, that's all I have.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

ms2000 and the Virus. 8)

Edit: Machinedrum too. Ah, that's all I have.

Thats all you have? Take it from me m8....its ALL you need!

I went wrong by buying too many synths! Its a head fuk when uve got too much gear.

DS

[Tomer=Trance]

well its good to have only few
a main synth -something with alot of power
maybe a drum machine of you realy need it
a sampler maybe and a multi fx too

learn how to work perfectly with thos then when you feel you want to add another\different sound into your tracks get another synth (thats what im doing now) still dont need another synth but soon i will get one (not another VA')

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Yeah thats right Tommer.....its better to have less equipment but to know how to use it. BTW if your gonna get another synth....get an analog mono...maybe a Waldorf Pulse.

By the sounds of it...thats what your setups needs.....some REAL analog!

DS

[Despistado]

Virusb
JV 1080

[Tomer=Trance]

why mono? :wink:
nah i'll get something polyphonic i like to play big chords :)

[TommyS]

You want a Nord G2.

The most powerful synth ever.


:D

[psynpose]

For shear power you can't beat a 303 through an old valve distortion like that peavey one, the SH101 is very tasty for bass lines and acid fx, and the pulse is definitely a wise purchase, it's very powerful and versatile even though it's mono and not multitimbral and it only cost me ?145 including postage! You can get the pulse plus which only costs about 160 which has a built in midi cv converter.

Pete

[Tomer=Trance]

what is the difference between the pulse and the pulse+
and i fear from the G2 :D (moster)

[TommyS]

The only classic synth I`d ever think of buying is a tb303. In a few years the sound from VA`s will just a close as real analogue.

:D

[Tomer=Trance]

yeah i guss
you should think about geting an mc202 too :)
its like an upgratede tb303
some ppl call it tb202 :D

[TommyS]

I`d rather have a 303, so I can jump around the room tweaking the filters in a frenzy like some one out of Altern8. :mrgreen:

I really hope Roland make a future hardware version of the 303, cause some sad day there`ll be none left. Whats gonna happen then?

[udenjoe]

I'd think if a company was smart enough they would produce a small analog synth with midi for under $300. There is definitely a market for it.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

I`d rather have a 303, so I can jump around the room tweaking the filters in a frenzy like some one out of Altern8. :mrgreen:

I really hope Roland make a future hardware version of the 303, cause some sad day there`ll be none left. Whats gonna happen then?

Well thank god the original 303 is a monophonic analogue synth. There are paople/manufacturers making affordable monophonic synths right now.....its only a matter of time before someone build an identicl replica.

Personally I want to see a manufacturer re-make the Jupiter 8, OB8 and Prophet 5. I love the sound of these old classics...and Iwill be mighty pissed off when I can no longer use them.

OK the Andromeda A6 is still far too expensive......but im thinking that an 8 voice (Jupiter 8, OB8) or 5 voice (Prophet 5) would be appreciably cheaper to make. Compared to the A6 these old classics had a very simple archetecture....no built in effects toworry about, no midi...pretty simple by todays standards.....but fuk me they sound unbeatable. Now I know all you guys do techno/trance kinda music....but take it from me your music would benefit soooo much from using some lovely analog poly sounds. Analog poly synths give your music that edge which you just cant find from digital or VA.

The only problem I see is that whoever designs and builds them...will rip us all off like they do with the MOOG VOYAGER. I like the minimoog.....but I wouldnt pay $2500 for a monosynth.....your paying a high price for the name.

DS

[Tomer=Trance]

yeah and tommy i guss when the tb's will start to show up in the selling my synth adds they will be very rare and will cost 2000 dollars or so :]
anybody knows what was the original price of the tb when they start making in back in the 80's i heard it was around 300-400 dollars is that true? :P

[saba]

[quote=TommyS]Compared to the A6 these old classics had a very simple archetecture....no built in effects toworry about, no midi...pretty simple by todays standards.....but fuk me they sound unbeatable. Now I know all you guys do techno/trance kinda music....but take it from me your music would benefit soooo much from using some lovely analog poly sounds. Analog poly synths give your music that edge which you just cant find from digital or VA.

You would be surprised as to how difficult a polyphonic synthesizer is to make. Its very difficult! Easier in software.
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[Tomer=Trance]

well DS your loaded :D it will take me a year for save up for another synth ,i think it will be an analog but dont know
maybe i'll get me a nice modular like the g2 or nord mod 1
what i do know is that it wont be another va
one va is enough for me (dont know why you need 2 ds :wink: )
(well i do know,you like the sound of them both 8)

[psynpose]

I think it might be impossible to make something that sounds exactly like a 303, (unless someone spends a huge amount of time and analysis and programs some software to do it) because the parts in the originals are no longer available.

Pete

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

The Virus is a weird synth! Most of the time it can sound very thin.......but every so often its capable of making insanely phat sounds.

Im starting to wonder whether the first 2 Virus' I had sounded 'thinner' because this 3rd one ive got sounds so much better....pitty its goto to go back cos of claw marks across front :(

Maybe my 4th Virus will be cosmetically/sound great!!

Strange :roll:

DS

[Tomer=Trance]

you know what they say
i hope 3000 is not your lucky number if you know what i mean :D

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

The problems ive been experiencing with the Virus...im almost certain ts Turnkey to blame..NOT Access :D

DS

[Philipp]

DS,

I'm gonna sound like broken record but dude stay away from Turnkey! In my experience they don't give a flying f*ck unless you're mega-famous.

:lol:

[Juho L]

I think it might be impossible to make something that sounds exactly like a 303, (unless someone spends a huge amount of time and analysis and programs some software to do it) because the parts in the originals are no longer available.

Parts no longer available -> Can't use same schematics.

You could make a 100% TB303 but you'd have to make new schematics. But of course everybody would still say it doesn't sound like a "real" TB303, but hey, they're just plain stupid. H?h?h?.

And my answer to the original question: Virus, because I haven't tried any other analog/VA synths.

well DS your loaded it will take me a year for save up for another synth ,i think it will be an analog but dont know
maybe i'll get me a nice modular like the g2 or nord mod 1
what i do know is that it wont be another va
one va is enough for me (dont know why you need 2 ds )
(well i do know,you like the sound of them both

I think there will be a inner circle joke "If it makes noise, Tomer plans to buy it". Hoho.

anybody knows what was the original price of the tb when they start making in back in the 80's i heard it was around 300-400 dollars is that true?

Wow! 300-400 dollars?! For a piece of cheap toy?! Holy cat's carcasses! Well now I'm very comforted when I realised that some people pay over 1000 dollars for that piece of plastic junk nowdays. Poor lads. Don't know what's quality. H?h?h?.

Edit: And remember people: Moog is NOT for trance. The first one to use Moog in a trance track will have slight head injury from my Valhalla's Warhammer.

[Tomer=Trance]

yeah
im also planing to buy the world -alot of noise going on here :)
and sky is the limit (or is it now? ) :twisted:

:D

and about moog and trance ,i say it can be done! :)

[matsa]

And remember people: Moog is NOT for trance. The first one to use Moog in a trance track will have slight head injury from my Valhalla's Warhammer.


LOL Juho! But that Moog is the traciest thing ever made!

[Blank]

I dont know about synths but the fattest thing i ever played with is a slinky!! those things are bad ass...good noise too...tomer u should look into one of those!!


peace
Blank

[Tomer=Trance]

what company make\made thos?

[Blank]

multipule companies have the right to make them from what i saw on google but i could be wrong...search the net!! :wink:


peace
Blank

[matsa]

GOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooo Slinky

[udenjoe]

USELESS POST WARNING!

I had to laugh. :lol:

[Juho L]

LOL Juho! But that Moog is the traciest thing ever made!

No! Noooo!

[Machinegunjoe]

One of the fattest synths i've ever used is a Oxford music OSCAR. Heard their about to release it as a soft synth.

EDITED: Cuz my spelling SUCKS

[udenjoe]

I've seen one of those, not in person. Strange looking, but interesting. A softsynth OSCAR? Why?

[Tomer=Trance]

ppl are looking for another software version of a vintage synth,something like NI's pro 52 and 53
which i think was kind of lame but thats my opinion

[Blank]

I agree with Tomer i didnt think it was all that hot of a VSTi...and the emulation wasnt that great either im my opinion...

peace
Blank

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

DS,

I'm gonna sound like broken record but dude stay away from Turnkey! In my experience they don't give a flying f*ck unless you're mega-famous.

:lol:

Righ thats it u Turnkey f*$&s im gonna demand my ?2700 refund right now....if that doesnt work....

Ill pretend im William Orbit or something......maybe ill pretend to be Michael Jackson and pay Turnkey a visit

Nah, I dont really have to pretend .cos im already famous...and as we speak right now I have the manager of Turnkey bent over taking anal.

hehehe

DS :wink:

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

I'd better wash my mouth out......my language is gettign bad again. ...sorry!

DS

[TommyS]

Ive never really had any problems with TurnKey. Perhas I might need to wait for a few weeks to get the item, but it always comes in good condition. (Im just lucky or they think im famous, not sure :? )

I`d say its not really there fault, they cant really inspect each bit of hardware they send out. Im sure they are as pissed of as you, with all the hassle.

I`d say the person you want to be bummin` is the suppliers of TurnKey. Access perhaps :?:

[Blank]

DS ur famous? ive never heard of u b4...u have any music i could hear, snipits?


peace
Blank

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

LOL....no im not famous.......YET :wink:

DS 8)

[Blank]

Fame is of no consequence to me...i just want to play music and make some cash at it as well :wink:


But i will say it would be nice!! :lol: :lol: :lol:


peace
Blank

[Tomer=Trance]

cash is good
cash keeps you studio runing and lets you add some new friends to it :D

[Blank]

Cash also helps u pay for more advertisement to get more listeners which in return makes u more money for more toys!!!


peace
Blank

also gives u a nice house and lots of beautiful women flawk to u :wink:
but never never would fall for one of those women...!
Cash does make life a bit more easier in alot of aspects but can also make life difficult in others!!

[Tomer=Trance]

you got to use it properly....

[Blank]

I agree 100% but the problem is...finding out what is properly using money...now im sure we all have our ideas but to actually use it right that is something that takes time and practice...that is why we have record labels...

peace
Blank

[Tomer=Trance]

so?
going to send some tracks to labels soon blank?

[crea]

Ah well, boring old me -> back to the original topic, ey? My choice is easy - the Virus (b to be entirely correct) - since it's the only synth I've played (not just fooled around with in a store). :oops:

.hawke

[Machinegunjoe]

Ohh....I finally know what synth i think is the fattest sounding...my SH101! I hadn't had the time to play around with it until yesterday(I've had it for 4 month, maybe longer....yeah i know :oops: ) And i made this AWESOME Picotto bass....woomph woomph. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: ohh man...im in love

[Tomer=Trance]

hehe that what happends when you have too many synths
i guss you bought alot of synths at once right? :wink:

when are you going to let us listen to your music joe?

[Machinegunjoe]

lol i guess your right... Most of the times i use the gear that im used to so that i work faster. But every now and then i end up spending a day with a synthersizer that i really haven't worked so much with. The funny thing is that i always wonder why the heck i don't use that synth more often.

My music :D i'm working on a new song right now i might be finished by the end of next week if you have msn mess i could send it to you. (bartezz, Jurgen vries style) would be fun to hear a Trance maniacs opinion. I'll let you know when i'm finished

[Blank]

After i get this soundset done, i want to see how that goes...im going to work on a demo tape to send to record labels..i dont like my older songs,so maybe i will re-due them with hardware and touch them up...but i might just make new songs!!

peace
Blank

[Timo]

If you want the 303 sound, have you ever tried something like the BassStation (or SuperBassStation), MAM MB33 (Mk2 edition), or Freebass? They might be right up your street. I think all of them have Midi too (albeit not on the knobs of the freebass, though). And the BassStation/SuperBassStation, at least, has more features than the 303.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

If I were u Blank....Id get into a habbit of writing songs regularly....more so than making soundsets. Dont rely on material u did 2-3 yrs ago.......chances are it sounds a bit dated already.

U want a record deal? Go and make something really fresh and original. That is where the money is made...not in soundsets. Just my bullshit opinion of course :roll:

j/k

lmao

DS 8)

[Tomer=Trance]

want a record deal do something commercial.....
fresh can take some time and harder to do

[Timo]

Blank - Listened to your trax at mp3.com - very well produced :) - Was your virus your main synth?

Yo Tomer, or DigiS, or indeed anyone else, do you have any of your stuff online to listen to, as well, lads?

[seraph]

The fattest sounding synths ive ever used are:How about you guys?

DS

I think the fattest I ever tried (and owned) was the ELKA SYNTHEX
http://www.vintagesynth.org/elka/elkasyn.shtml

[special-k]

I got my Virus from TURNKEY. I won't be buying anything else off 'em. I was visiting friends in London & took the opportunity to visit their 'showroom', to compare & listen to different synths. First impressions were dissapointing, it was small, dingy, crowdy & noisey - not at all as it appears in its press adverts. Anyway I'd pretty much decided I was buying before I went in and so after an hour or so I went to the sales counter & attempted to buy myself a VirusC. They had one on display at ?999 (English Pounds). Not a problem they said & sent someone to fetch one from the stores. When they took my card, however, they attempted to charge me ?1079. Naturally I queried this and was told that due to demand & the fact that no-one else had them (they are the sole UK distributors) the price had gone up. I pointed out that the price tag on the display model was ?999 and refused to pay anymore. They then claimed that they hadn't got any left themselves, that it would take a couple of weeks to get one to me and implied that if I didn't place a deposit for it there and then the price could well increase further.
Anyway, to cut a long story short, as I was about to walk out in disgust they managed to 'find' a Virus from somewhere and after consultation with some higher authority, agreed with obvious reluctance and very bad grace, to give it to me for ?999.
Although I had in a sense won the consession from them it didn't feel like much of a victory. I should have been excited about my purchase, instead I felt like I'd escaped a fleecing from some grubby con artist.
The consumer synth market in the UK is pretty much tied up by 2 operators, TURNKEY & DIGITAL VILLAGE. I've bought off both of them a number of times, experiences which have never been truly satisfactory, & have often felt in some way adversarial - they'll never just quote you their best price, for instance, rather they ask you what price you have been quoted elsewhere. I suppose they would argue that the onus is on the customer to drive a bargain. My perception, which was very much bourne out by the above, is that they are always more than willing to try it on, ready to take advantage of the unwary customer.

Happily, I've had no problems with my Virus (indeed I love it), and no further dealings with TURNKEY.

Is TURNKEY supposed to be spealt with an 'N'?

[Tomer=Trance]

ok after some time....
the fatest synth i've ever played with was the moog minimoog.... indeed
the jupiters are also realy fat but they cant beat that mega fat moog bass....

[Cruel Hoax]

Fattest, hands-down? Moog Voyager with "insert" jack improperly used as feedback/gain, patched into external input. Everything else is, well, a bit polite and well-behaved in comparison.

Hi, all. Just got a Virus B for a killer price. Originally intended to sell it on ebay to make some money, but fell in love with the versatility and zipper-less parameter changes.

-Hoax

[n0303]

Heh, i have a monopoly. Although I can never make it shimmer for trance i still feel it has a certain grit i cant get anywhere else. I just heard that the pulse plus as a midi/cv converter, that makes it a smart buy as I have no midi on the old monopoly.

I still think i should trade in my nova laptop on a nord lead 2 or nord modular, what do you all think?

I just got a Korg SX and i think its phat considering you can sample your heart out and get the drum machine and sampler fix in one box.

[Cruel Hoax]

Do it for the NL2, n0303. Do it for the interface alone.

-Hoax

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

TURNKEY REALLY PISS ME OFF

DS

[saba]

What happened this time? :?
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[oddbods finger]

Why is F--A--T so great?
............what's wrong with thin?

fat is old hat
thin is in
:wink:

[Tomer=Trance]

a fat sub bass is cooler then a thin sub bass :wink:
but there is nothing wrong with thin as long as the sound is beautiful.
again its a matter of personal taste...

[udenjoe]

How about tight? I hear tight basses can be better than long basses depending on your mix.

[Tomer=Trance]

yeah your right

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

I have a preference for warm rich analog sounds. Jupiter 8, Oberheim, Prophets, Moogs. I can make wide sounds on the virus....but they always tend to sound a little 2 dimensional....I guess thats the limitation of software. 5 years time....software will be powerful enough to make truly convincing analog sounds.

Fat sounds are so much more satisfying than thin weedy sounds.

Thin is in? Not in my house it aint muhahahaha......

DS 8)

[Tomer=Trance]

Thin is in? Not in my house it aint muhahahaha......



hehe funny sentence :D

[n0303]

Do it for the NL2, n0303. Do it for the interface alone.

-Hoax

See, I like the nl2 from what I have heard. But I have never heard any good trance patches for it. I have heard spades for the nl3 but not the 2. I could go get a modular and use the nl2 model i suppose but then I would not have the interface. Speaking of the interface i like the one on the nova.
Will the nl2 rack mount in a six u space and have room for cables?

[aeon]

Studio Electronics Omega-8
Studio Electronics SE-1x
Waldorf Pulse
Korg OASYS PCI
Clavia Nord Modular
Moog MiniMoog Voyager
Oberheim OB-XA