View Full Version : Anyone here with a waldorf Q?
Machinegunjoe
31.07.2003, 08:38 AM
How does it compare to other VA:s??? I hear good things about it but i don't know anyone that uses it. Manuel i know you have one could you plz fill me in?
DIGITAL SCREAMS
31.07.2003, 01:00 PM
For the most part I find the Waldorf Q too cold and the ocilators lack soul.
If you want the cold digital feelling then its really good.....unbeatable! But for me, I need a digital synth to sound as warm as possible. Cold digital sounds get very tiring on the ears (I discovered that with the Casio CZ3000).
Waldorf Q is really good for industrial, sci-fi, certain kinds of ambient music.
I was going to buy one....but weirdly enough my UK dealer advised me not to. Apparently their products have reliability issues and Waldorf as a company are not that easy to deal with. Dont take my word as Gospel though.....that was what I was told....and it maybe totally untrue.
If you seriously thinking of buying a Q then I would suggest u go pick up a 2nd hand one....just in case.
DS
Tomer=Trance
31.07.2003, 06:55 PM
i've played with the q a couple of times
i think its great
cold yeah,kind of... but sounds great! realy is a great synth to have
it sounds totaly different from all the other va's in my opinion
realy under estimated synth if you have the money you should get it
psynpose
31.07.2003, 09:20 PM
The Q has an amazing range of sounds, from an incredibly clear lead to a distorted sound of a huge anvil being struck, and a q rack s/h goes for only about ?500-600, which is a steal! But yes the sounds are pure digital, and probably not quite as rich as the virus.
You could always get one and then get a cheapish analog filter / overdrive when you want to warm it up a bit, especially if the filter / overdrive has real valves!
Pete
Blank
01.08.2003, 06:52 PM
I would imagine if u want to get rid of that cold feeling to get the Q+ with the analogue filters, im sure that will warm everthing up a bit...I personally like the sound and when i get the money im going to buy 2 pulses and a Q+...
peace
Blank
Machinegunjoe
03.08.2003, 07:32 AM
I'm thinking of buying a micro q...it's really cheap secondhand.I don't mind it being stonecold...but before i buy it i would like to hear Manuels soundset for it.
Blank
03.08.2003, 10:43 AM
what would u guys say would be better to have first?
Nordlead 3
A6 andromeda
waldorf pulse
waldorf Q+
KS-rack
Nord G2 Modular
peace
Blank
Machinegunjoe
03.08.2003, 10:56 AM
hmmm...don't know. Is money a object??? If it's not i'd go with the Andromeda. But you can get a couple of other synthersizers for the price of it.
Too tell you the truth after having the nord lead 3 for a couple of month now, i'm not very impressed...ok ok it's good but not that much better than my nordlead1. I actually think my nordlead1 has more "punch" to it???I don't really like novation stuff that much other than v-station and bassStation so i'd rule novation out to. My pulse is the shit...only 1 voice and hard to program though. Nord G2 Modular seems like to much hassle...
I would buy a Pulse and maybe a micro q(still reseaching on this beauty) and a nord rack2...and still get away much cheaper than with a andromeda, nordlead3, g2modular
Machinegunjoe
03.08.2003, 11:00 AM
Must...increase...posts....
Blank
03.08.2003, 06:49 PM
thanx for the info machinegunjoe i will consider your opinion....any1 else have an opinion on this?
peace
Blank
Tomer=Trance
03.08.2003, 09:19 PM
if anybody is asking me :)
you should get the g2 and a nice analog filter it will give you a much better resolt then just the a6
Blank
03.08.2003, 09:46 PM
yeah i was looking at the waldorf analogue filter bank but its only low pass filters and doesnt sound that much better
peace
Blank
Tomer=Trance
03.08.2003, 10:59 PM
what?!!?
1200 dollars for a low pass filter?
its better to get that modularic filter bank (dont recall the name) but it cost less and has tons more
udenjoe
04.08.2003, 04:44 AM
The Sherman filterbank is nice and expensive. The Akai mfc42 is nice too. I'm kind of regretting getting rid of it. It made my ms2000 sound much better. there is another filter bank kind but I forget the name. Starts with an M.
Hollowcell
04.08.2003, 05:33 AM
what would u guys say would be better to have first?
Nordlead 3
A6 andromeda
waldorf pulse
waldorf Q+
KS-rack
Nord G2 Modular
peace
Blank
id say go for the ks-rack...because after u buy a ks, u probably wont want your nova anymore....and i know a guy who wouldnt mind buying a second hand one at the right price!!! :wink:
Tomer=Trance
04.08.2003, 09:28 AM
joe i think its the same one im talking about
its havey.... even has 2-3 lfo's and a couple of env's
oh i was talking about the Sherman FilterBank 2, the Sherman Quad Modular Filter is sweet!
Blank
04.08.2003, 09:57 AM
too bad they dont make the quad anymore that thing looks absolutely saweeeeeeeeeeet!
ok back to what i was talkin about what about those synths?
peace
Blank
Tomer=Trance
04.08.2003, 11:24 AM
what sound exacly are you looking for?
you have a virus and a nova right now right? what alse?
Blank
04.08.2003, 09:32 PM
well to be honest you dont need to know that information because i want all those synths...i was just wondering which i should pick up first?
i have
Virus C
nova
ms2000
microkorg
sh32
an200
dx200
EA1 electribe
i usually do epic house/trance, melodic trance
peace
Blank
Tomer=Trance
04.08.2003, 10:43 PM
did you try the an1x? (yamaha thats right you heard me! :]) one of the upcoming synths in trance right now coming back realy hard now
realy cheap and great you can get it for 200-300 dollars i think
maybe switce your nova into a supernova or a KS siries and get a q rack and maybe still have some money for an analog filter.
great use for 1500-2000 i'd sound i think you will enjoy them much more then just the andromeda (am i listning to what im saying you must be asking yourself :D answer: well yeah i think so....... 8) )
tell me what you think about what i've said
Hollowcell
04.08.2003, 11:44 PM
i still say (not to be ignored this time blank!)...sell ya nova to me (for cheap) then buy a KS.....
u wont regret it!! im really trying to do u a favour here! let me help u out!!
Blank
05.08.2003, 03:48 AM
how would that be doing me a favor? if the KS is so good why dont u buy one? its cheaper!!
I want to hear your argument for this!!
peace
Blank
BTW: Tomer this sint a money issue...it might take awhile for me to save up but i would rather get the full thing instead of buying lower versions of something and selling them later...as for the an1x i have the an200 which u can convert an1x sound for it works fine...
Hollowcell
05.08.2003, 05:50 AM
i was actually looking at the KS and....
it beats the nova in all areas, there are a few exceptions however...ill specify as a vs...
16 band vocoda vs 48 band....mmmm...u dont need more than 16 blank!
4 part multi vs 6....u have 9 synths..whats a few parts less hey!
nova can inport some supernova patches
vs KSs cant import jack shit......mmm no comment there...
the nova has 2 inputs vs the one on the KS.......who would really need more than one anyway blank!?! no one works in stereo these days...the next step is full mono tracks....everybody knows that!!
ok now where the KS dominates....
its silver!! blue is so late 90s...
hypersync.....ive heard this technology is by far the most cutting edge and dominating feature of any synth in the last 15 years!!!! and probably for the next 15 too.....the nova cant do this (r u getting closer to selling yet?)
it has FM!!! i can feel the nova getting closer to my grasp!!
its confusing having too many filter slopes, so in a brave move the KS has 2 easy to handle slopes.......the nova was just far too complicated!!
its also confusing to have too many appegiator paterns (let alone being able to program your own)...364 preset patterns is just too difficult to get your head around......so, the KS has the managable, easy to understand appegiator section....
i bet before u even finished reading this...u have already ordered the KS....
now just let me know how i can get the money to you for your old nova!
im glad i can help out by taking it off ya hands.....no need to thank me..
Blank
05.08.2003, 07:55 AM
you missed the one thing...actually u put it in the wrong spot...I like the 3 env's all assignable on the nova except the 1'st one...[AMP]
Ill check it out soon...ill take a rid out to my local (far away) music store and try it then ill let u know...but just for the sack of argument how much r do u want it for? its not even a year old! Just to let u know!
peace
Blank
Hollowcell
05.08.2003, 08:02 AM
seriously blank..i wouldnt buy a KS specialy since u have a nova.....the KSs are great for the price...but the nova was a steal for the price....if u r seriously thinking of seeling i would put in a serious offer.....
my whole post was meant to highlight just how good i think the nova is!!! especially compared to the K-range of gear...
Blank
05.08.2003, 09:30 AM
OH SHIT...i thought u were being serious and alot of the points were good thats is relating to me...i really dont need the vocoder because i have the ms2000 and the microkorg....and the 2 parts less is true what will that do for me, oh darn i cant have one more background sound that is if i ever use all of them...FM is important, and the sound of the KS i think is a bit bettter! But i do love my nova!!!
peace
Blank
Tomer=Trance
05.08.2003, 10:37 AM
i dont think the q is something you will be dissapointed (did i write this word right?) with and the g2 is for sure something you will like 8)
Machinegunjoe
05.08.2003, 03:03 PM
did you try the an1x? (yamaha thats right you heard me! ) one of the upcoming synths in trance right now coming back realy hard now
Do you know if the An1x and the CS6R is based on the same synth engine, and does the An1x sound a bit the same as the JP???
I tried the an1x a couple of years ago but i can't remember
Blank
05.08.2003, 06:27 PM
The fact that my An200 can play the sounds of the An1x limits my ability to get the strength to buy it!!
peace
Blank
I own a Waldorf Q Rack (16-voice).
Likes: The quality of the oscillators - simply the best I have found in any VA synthesizer. The modulation matrix is deep and the degree of modulation allows for some really organic sounds. The fidelity of the sound is immediate and the character is electric and alive. Flexible filter section allows you to control inputs per osc, and the dual-filter bank is freely modulatable between serial and parallel configurations with stereo routing. As such, setups such as 48db/oct. lowpass or stereo panning comb filters can be realized. Fast envelopes. I like the endless rotaries for programming. The UI is fairly fluid. The wavetables are smooth in character, and their presence combined with FM and comb filters make this synth much more than an analog emulator...it is a powerful digital synth in its own right. The arpeggiator is very powerful and very programmable. The step-sequencer is a lot of fun, especially when driving the arp. Patch morphing. Digital S/PDIF out. Sounds great without effects, but the onboard mod fx, pattern delays and quality reverb add to the fun. Powerful vocoder. I find the design and color to be aesthetically pleasing and functional. Over 1000 patches available online.
Dislikes: I don't like the non-standard power cord. Sometimes I find the filters to be a little clinical in nature. The step-sequencer is limited since it does not have any kind of pattern chaining or remote recall. Endless rotaries are not as fun for live tweaking. No true power-switch - it uses a soft switch. FX params not destinations in the mod matrix. Audio input forces you to use a custom cable since it is a stereo 1/4" jack. 32-voice expansion is expensive. No wordclock in.
Tomer=Trance
13.12.2003, 09:11 AM
sounds like an amazing machine
the digital outs sounds sweet....
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