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FLUIDNYC
08.09.2003, 12:25 PM
This classic synth been around a long time.
Anyone have one or use one :?:
http://www.moogmusic.com/product_images/vgrpe.jpg
Also, what do you think about a JUNO 106.
What are they worth today, and do you think its worth getting one?
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udenjoe
09.09.2003, 07:42 AM
They have the signature filter, but that's all I can think about them. They can do less than some and more than less. For the price of the Voyager, I'd get a modular from another company. You could just get a moog filter.
I have heard that 106s are nice and cheap.
Juho L
09.09.2003, 09:07 AM
I agree with udenjoe. Voyager is for those who want Minimoog but can't find one. A modular is indeed much better choice.
My mate has got a Juno 106, it's absolutely knackered though but it does good stuff. Good for effects, throbbing basses and a few leads.
120mg
13.09.2003, 07:38 AM
I bought a Juno 106 back in -93 or -94 for about 200 euros.
I loved it, very warm basses... Had to sell it to get money :(
But i got around 800 euros for it :D
Tomer=Trance
13.09.2003, 09:50 AM
800 euro for a juno?
doesnt it worth about 300-350 euro?? 8O
106 is really nice - atleast with some external fx - then you can get some really wierd spacefx (or really nice psy-leads)
Cruel Hoax
09.11.2003, 11:15 PM
I've got a Moog Voyager, and have used it for some time. I used one for a while before I decided to buy one, so I don't think that it's my "invested money" talking.
I love it. Of course, it is fat and warm, smooth and buttery. But, in my opinion, the true worth of the Voyager (as opposed to, say, the Minimoog) comes when you explore its evil side (Comprehensive mod matrix, control via touch pad, linear _and_ exponential FM.)
Hardware-wise, it's exceptional. Rock-solid, good-feeling knobs. Larger knobs (for the most part) on those parameters likely to be played live. Extensive control voltage in and out.
Sound-wise, there are no words. Of course, it can do Minimoog-type stuff, and well. It's not as drifty as the original Mini, but you can simulate this with Smoothed S+H->pitch or Sm.S+H->Waveform (Smoothed S+H is equivalent to the Virus's Sample+Glide) However, Big Fun and Evil can enter thuswise: a patch cord to connect input back to output. On the original Mini, this was used to both increase level to the filter section (thereby increasing yummy filter overdrive) and to skew the filter response (filter output, fed back to filter input, filtered further, sent to output, fed back to input, for a steeper slope.) On the Voyager, you can do this in a few ways: feeding the main output (in mono) back to the filter, then tapping the Filter2 output for main signal (or headphone jack, to maintain stereo signal) Or, stick a patch cable one-click-from-entirely-inserted into the Mixer Out/Filter In insert patch point for bright distort-y goodness. (This is my personal favorite.)
The nice thing here is the nice thing about analog as opposed to digital in general: In the analog world, feedback paths are instantaneous. In the digital realm, any input/output, including feedback paths, are subject to A/D-D/A delay, and are, therefore, subject to resonation determined by the input and output stages. No arbitrarily exaggerated notes in real analog.
The true analog pots are digitized at 14 bits (as opposed to, say, the Alesis Ion's much-touted 12 bits, or MIDI's standard 8 bits), and I've only been able to produce stepping in one case.
Dedicated hardware controls for mod wheel source/destination, additional ("Pedal") source/destination, extreme flexibility, excellent tone.
I realize that it's not for everyone, but I love mine. It does things no other piece of my gear can do, and it sounds great. Not only that, but it, erm, _responds_. My digital gear feels like I'm controlling it. My Moog feels like I'm working with it. Intangible, perhaps, but unmistakable.
Just my opinion.
-Hoax
Tomer=Trance
10.11.2003, 04:44 AM
i used the mini moog couple of weeks before
extreme fatness.... 8)
an amazing monophonic beast...
harleyisa
10.11.2003, 06:11 PM
My favorite combo is the Moog Voyager and the Indigo @ 6.0-352.
HOW SWEET IT IS
Tomer=Trance
11.11.2003, 05:29 AM
i wonder what will happend if you will run a virus thru the moog audio input for using its filter.... how sweet will that sound ha? 8)
I had a trip to Turnkey in London a few weeks ago and had a go on a Moog Voyager. I thought it sounded really BIG. Brilliant vintage sound and I'd definitely have one if I had money to burn. I don't think it would integrate into dance music as well as my Virus C and for this reason, it's not at the top of my shopping list. If vintage synths are your thing, I'd definitely recommend it.
BTW, had a go on an Alesis Ion and that's not as good as the Virus, sounds weaker and more artificial.
Tomer=Trance
18.11.2003, 03:41 PM
did you try out the alesis andromeda 6 too ?
did you try out the alesis andromeda 6 too ?
There was one there but it wasn't rigged up for use and it was really busy. The Andromeda looks fantastic though and it's a lot bigger in the flesh. It's like a console on the Starship Enterprise or something. If I had money for a Moog Voyager, I'd get an Andromeda instead I think.
Had a go on an Indigo 2 and the limited edition Redback and no suprises, they're just the same as my Virus C rack.
Went on the Hartman Neuron aswwell which is bizarre to use and with no manual I know I didn't get the best out of it. interesting noises though but when I actually had a go on it, it struck me how ridiculously expensive it is. It needs about ?1000 knocking off the price. Who has bought anyway? How does Mr Hartman make any money?
It was great to finally use many different synths and compare them with the Virus as this was my first synth and I hadn't tried anything else before. Honestly, people with a Virus have made a wise choice indeed as it beats a lot of the competition out there.
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