m-audio bx5 monitors... yes or no??

[hatembr]

ok, the eternal problem, the etrnal question about monitors.... who knows anything about these ones? i found they are around 425 euro (new) in france and i know i won't find cheaper.. unless i go for Yamaha MSP5 or MSP3.. but i didn't hear very good things about them.
i've read many reviews but, to say the truth, i don't believe them, i don't find they are objective, there is always that confusing description: "excellent and unique sound, flat response....bla bla bla" and when i read user comment here and there, it is completly different.
any idea?

[Juho L]

I've read good reviews on those monitors and some not-so-good reviews. Hard to say.

I have no other idea than give them a listen.

[hatembr]

i cannot test any monitors :( that is my big problem. In my country i can only try JBL stuff (and i am not sure they import nearfield monitors), yamaha MSP somthing, i forgot exactly which model, and Soundcraft Absolute Zero or Zero2. I can rely only on user comments in forums and reviews!!
(On day I found 2nd hand Alesis M1 passive with Alesis RA150 amp, i was so excited that i bought them without testing them very well, once home i discovered the right tweeter was broken... so i returned them to the guy.... forutunatly he didn't refuse.)
anyway, i have to buy, test and decide on whether to keep or sell...

[Hollowcell]

reviews on monitors are a real pain to sort through! always there seems to be some good and some bad! user reviews are usually more pointless, because they arent objective at all! its more like my stuff is better than your stuff (competition or something),

before buying my monitors i listened to a few different types first...unfortunately its the only way to know what you are getting and because you arent in a position to do that it will be a head-fuck to say the least!

good luck with the hunt hatmebr...

sorry there isnt really any advice in this post by the way.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Its really critical to know what you'll be using these monitors for. I actually used a pair of Yamaha MSP5's in my bedroom for a year (I now use HR624's in my m8's studio).

The MSP5's have a very clear/crisp presentation for the money. BUT they lack lowend. I use them for fuking around on my synth.....you could just about work with them...but it would be an effort to get it right.......personally I wouldnt want to.

IMHO u are stuck in the void. With the kinda money you want to spend....you'll have to make a compromise between clarity and lack of bass end or vice versa. When you move upto the monitors like 624's you get good bass presentation and mid/high clarity.....but thats what you pay for!

As an alternative to the bass light Yamaha MSP5's.....you could consider the Alesis Spirit MKII's. They pack more bass weight, whilst retanining relatively decent mid/high clarity.

[Tomer=Trance]

i heard alot of bad things about the soundcraft monitors
a friend of mine has the 8's and they sounded very good
crisp and clear
nice buttom end
but his room is kind of big so it fits
if your room is small and not so good on the acustics you should go with 5 inc near field,
the m audio will be a wise choice i think.

[hatembr]

i feel very attracted by the Behringer Truth 2031, what amazed me is that they are more expensive than the Alesis M1 mk2 ... why are the alesis cheaper in your opinion?

[nrgy]

i feel very attracted by the Behringer Truth 2031, what amazed me is that they are more expensive than the Alesis M1 mk2 ... why are the alesis cheaper in your opinion?

I hope the reason is that the sound worse than the behringer's, since I get my Alesis Actives in 1,5 week 8)

I'll let you guys know what I think...my first monitors actually, so I guess I can't be that disappointed:P

[hatembr]

i am also very attracted by your avatar nrgy!! :mrgreen:

anyway.... i found another good deal, 460euro for the Alesis M1 mk2 in france, 380euro without the extra taxes... which is great!
What is not so great is that i have to make a decision on whether to order them or not before saturday becaue it is a special promotion that won't last months... it may ends this week end... so two days ultimatum to know if i will buy them.... my first monitors too :?

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

U could always buy 2 mobile phones...similar to the one i got and use them as little desktop monitors? That would be quite cheap

DS

[hatembr]

is that a mobile or a brick ?? 8O

[Juho L]

is that a mobile or a brick ??

I think that's the Nokia model (Motorola at the time) which was called as brick. It was the very first cell phones that didn't need the huge "mother" case.

[hatembr]

is that a mobile or a brick ?? 8O

LOL
i was kidding of course, i don't know how they are called in english, i think in french they are called RTM.

[Juho L]

LOL
i was kidding of course, i don't know how they are called in english, i think in french they are called RTM.

I thought to give you a fun fact of the day.

[Hollowcell]

i feel very attracted by the Behringer Truth 2031, what amazed me is that they are more expensive than the Alesis M1 mk2 ... why are the alesis cheaper in your opinion?

i use the truths coz i had to buy cheaper speakers that i wouldnt mind leaving in japan for when (now if) i go back to ausi! i still have mackie money put away (which im seriously thinking of spending at the moment, but thats another story)..

i listened to the alesis's and the truths with an MD of my own music (some of the music i took i knew worked on heaps of systems, and some i took i knew didnt work)...IMO the truths were easier to judge the mixes....the bass overwhelmed me with the alesis. i knew some of my mixes worked well on many sound systems, but on the alesis's i would have turned down the bass! thats what sold me really!

one thing i didnt realize with listening to the truths in the store though...they do get fatiguing a bit! need a break after a heavy session....

i think it depends on what you get used to too...many people like the bass pounding all the time when they mix...i dont really!

[hatembr]

what do u mean ears fatigue ? how do u feel your ears?

[Hollowcell]

what do u mean ears fatigue ? how do u feel your ears?

it means, after listening to the speakers for a long period of time (eg: 3 hours up) your ears find it more difficult to judge the sound. this in itself is ear fatigue....

for example...you have been mixing/making a new song for many hours in a row...u go to bed and the next day, the different tracks of the song arent sitting at all well in the mix....

better speakers make it easier to judge sound even after long, long mixing sessions.

[Tomer=Trance]

there is an unwriten rule that first you should write the track and only the day after mix it beacuse after couple of hours your head and ears feels kind of havey from listening so much

[hatembr]

thanks hollowcell, i still don't know this feeling since i have no monitors to judge yet

tomer: thats' true, after listening to a track and trying to mix it just after making it, it feels boring and too bad. One or two days after, i find that energy back