Worth swapping?

[Machinegunjoe]

Yo ppl

Anyone here thinking of selling their virus and replacing it with a Powercore card & a powercore virus?

I usually only use 1 or sometimes 2 sounds at once from my virus. But then again, do i really want to swap 32 voices for 16? How about my virus sounds...do they work on the Powercore virus, and what happens when i use all 3 osc, do I end up with only 4 voices since the virus c sometimes only has 8 voices when using the 3rd osc ??? Instances, is that the same as parts? I guess im quite lost hmmm :?

[Juho L]

That might be a good idea if you don't feel that you need a hardware UI. Clicking on the screen with your mouse isn't as nice as programming on the interface.

And Virus' polyphony never drop on 8. There's a note on Access' site: "when all oscillators are in use, polyphony may decrease, but not by more than 6 voices". So on C model the polyphony will drop to 26.

I think the polyphony isn't the issue with the Powercore DSP. It depends more on the UI and your working habits. If you like point and click programming and make all/most of effecting on computer, then Powercore is for you. Otherwise don't bother.

[Machinegunjoe]

Thx Juho, good point about the interface issue. It sure is a pain in the butt trying to program sounds with the mouse. Do you know if my virus c patches work with the powercore?

[ben crosland]

Your patches will sound identical on the Virus PowerCore unless you have made use of the EQs and/or the new Analog Filter. If you only use a couple of sounds at a time, polyphony might not be such an issue - but of course the same rules apply with regard to Osc3 and Unison Mode. If you go for the license extension you would get 16 voices per DSP (64 on one PowerCore), and some careful revoicing of chords across different DSPs using the same patch would mean that you could theoretically achieve a bigger, fatter sound than is possible even with the C..

[Juho L]

Your patches will sound identical on the Virus PowerCore unless you have made use of the EQs and/or the new Analog Filter.

Hmm... Isn't that Powercore Virus identical to the C series?

[Drammy]

Nope - the Powercore Virus is based on the Virus B. I asked them as I am interested inb swapping over - I have a rack XL and would appreciate having less menus to scroll through. I might buy it anyway and see if it is good enough to sell the XL.

In summary;

Based on the Virus B
Patches are interchangeable - Patches used on the hardware synth can be used on the software one.

[Juho L]

Nope - the Powercore Virus is based on the Virus B. I asked them as I am interested inb swapping over - I have a rack XL and would appreciate having less menus to scroll through. I might buy it anyway and see if it is good enough to sell the XL.

Then you would have to give away the new filters and that splendid extended mod matrix + additional oscillator. I wouldn't change!

[Machinegunjoe]

Then you would have to give away the new filters and that splendid extended mod matrix + additional oscillator. I wouldn't change!


According to access comp chart the powercore virus has 3 osc. The eq i can do without but i wanna keep my filters. Any chance of new os on the virus powercore?

[ben crosland]

According to access comp chart the powercore virus has 3 osc. The eq i can do without but i wanna keep my filters. Any chance of new os on the virus powercore?

LOL ;-) It hasn't even been released yet, and you're asking for a new OS?!

I think the fact that there is a reduced voice count from that of the Virus B makes it quite unlikely that we'll ever see the new filters in the PowerCore. Remember they take alot of processing power even in the C - using them has the same effect on polyphony as Unison Twin Mode.

[Juho L]

According to access comp chart the powercore virus has 3 osc.

Yes, it does. But Virus B 3rd oscillator is very limited. I think C has completely independent 3rd oscillator.

[ben crosland]

According to access comp chart the powercore virus has 3 osc.

Yes, it does. But Virus B 3rd oscillator is very limited. I think C has completely independent 3rd oscillator.

No, the 3rd Osc is implemented exactly the same in the C as in the B. It is true that it has some limitations compared to the main Oscillators, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it was 'very' limited..

[Machinegunjoe]

According to access comp chart the powercore virus has 3 osc. The eq i can do without but i wanna keep my filters. Any chance of new os on the virus powercore?

LOL ;-) It hasn't even been released yet, and you're asking for a new OS?!

I think the fact that there is a reduced voice count from that of the Virus B makes it quite unlikely that we'll ever see the new filters in the PowerCore. Remember they take alot of processing power even in the C - using them has the same effect on polyphony as Unison Twin Mode.

Nah, i was just wondering if they will update the OS as on the regular Virus

[Juho L]

No, the 3rd Osc is implemented exactly the same in the C as in the B. It is true that it has some limitations compared to the main Oscillators, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it was 'very' limited..

On one of the older threads in which someone compared B and C series was said that C had independent 3rd osc. So it's false info then.

Well "very limited" was a bit too harshly said. But limited it is.

[ben crosland]

Actually, it has to be the same implementation as the B, otherwise there would be patch compatibility problems both ways.

[Machinegunjoe]

How many instances does the powercore card have ? and whats the diff betwen the "old" Powercore and the element???

[ben crosland]

All PowerCores have 4 DSPs. The basic Virus license allows you to use one of these, which means you can have 4 Instances, each with a different voice, but sharing a maximum of 16 voices. With the extended license, you will be able to utilise all of the DSPs simultaneously on up to 4 PowerCores.

The PowerCore Element package is identical to the PCI, except that the Master X3 plug is no longer bundled with it.

[Machinegunjoe]

All PowerCores have 4 DSPs. The basic Virus license allows you to use one of these, which means you can have 4 Instances, each with a different voice, but sharing a maximum of 16 voices. With the extended license, you will be able to utilise all of the DSPs simultaneously on up to 4 PowerCores.

The PowerCore Element package is identical to the PCI, except that the Master X3 plug is no longer bundled with it.

Interesting, thanks

[keano]

Confused is it 16 voices or 64 voices for the base version?

[Tomer=Trance]

you have 4 dsps
1 dsp=16 voices 4 midi parts
you need to purcush an extra 199 us (i think) multi dsp licence for the virus and then you can use all 4 dsps for virus 16,4 midi parts X 4 =64 voices,16 midiparts...
enjoy :wink: