question about the bass station

[hatembr]

hi

i have a bass station rack since a long time now and i am still confused about this:
what is real analog in it ? the oscillators or the filters ?? i don't remember i've read anything about it in the manual tho... i always thought it was 100% digital, but someone here said it was analog...

any idea ?

[Hollowcell]

mm, im not sure either hatembr!

i just had a quick search and i found out the bass station keyboard is an analogue modeling synth. it also came before the bass station rack, sp i would think the rack version is VA too.....

but, the bass station rack has cv gate and midi together, but i cant get much details about the specs other than that. if i had to guess though (because it came after the bass station keyboard) i would say its VA....its just the cv ports!?!

im actually bidding on a bass station rack at the moment, because if it goes cheap enough, i will have a midi to cv converter with synth tacked on..

ill let u know here if i find anything out about it.

[3o3]

I acctually owned a basstation key - dont know if it was an VA or analogue, however it sounded like a bad VA but the seller said that it was analougue..

I wouldnt recommend it either way acctually - well some sounds you can tweak is pretty good, but its not a "basstation" it doesn't produce any good bas-sounds, more weird fx / leads

[Tomer=Trance]

maybe the superbass station has something analog in it?
i think it has an analog distortion unit and another analog somethign

[hatembr]

but, the bass station rack has cv gate and midi together

that's the only reason why i kept mine, in case of one day i get an old analog synth

I wouldnt recommend it either way acctually - well some sounds you can tweak is pretty good, but its not a "basstation" it doesn't produce any good bas-sounds, more weird fx / leads

yeah true, it can produce good but not thick or phat leads and may be as u say weird fx (i couldn't do any fx with it though, only few ambulance-like sounds :) ), but it has a very thin filter and and ithink it sounds better when filtered with something else than its own ones.

btw, its VST version doesn't sound the same AT ALL, for those who think when using it are like using a real bass station.

[Hollowcell]

hey i read this at the novation site..

http://www.novationmusic.com/nov_route/docs/prods/arch/bass_station_rack.htm

it looks like it is analogue, but with DCOs instead of VCOs (similar to the junos i guess...

also i may have been wrong about the keyboard being a VA! i read that off of the vintage synth explorer site, but it looks like the keyboard is the same as the rack except keys and no CV...

[hatembr]

The Novation BassStation re-invents the sound of analogue, providing all the prerequisite building blocks of its sound generation process with a loving care that is reminiscent of a painter restoring an old master...

they don't say it has DCOs or anything.... but we can understand there is somehting analog in it...

[Tomer=Trance]

all the va's have dcos
not the same dcos as 15 years ago with the juno but you can say that they have realy evolved

[hatembr]

yeah true tomer, but i meant that if it is a real analog, then they didn't mention anywhere that it has DCOs and not VCOs :)

anyway, i'll try to use it a little and see if we can get some nice sounds out of it... Cosmosis used his bass station in almost every track where there is a distorded 303ish sound, like in "Alien Disco", so i guess it can do the job!

[Hollowcell]

yeah true tomer, but i meant that if it is a real analog, then they didn't mention anywhere that it has DCOs and not VCOs :)
!

mmm true hatembr, it doesnt really say if it has DCOs or not...but below is what it says about digital tunning and the like...after reading that i would asume it uses DCOs.

Accurate Digital Tuning, requiring no warm-up time or mid-performance re-adjustment,
Stable Parameter Settings, which keep the sound you have created absolutely the same however long you need to use it,

anyway, i'll try to use it a little and see if we can get some nice sounds out of it...

yeh, thats all u can do really! anyway, even if it doesnt sound so good, at least you have a good midi/CV converter. :)

[Juho L]

all the va's have dcos
not the same dcos as 15 years ago with the juno but you can say that they have realy evolved

No, no, no. Digitally controlled oscillator (DCO) and digital oscillator are completely different things. DCO is an analog oscillator that has digitally controlled tuning. VA's oscillators are 100% digital.

The only good thing in Bass Station is that MIDI/CV converter.

[Tomer=Trance]

so dcos are hardware oscilators controlled by software and va's are just software?

[Juho L]

so dcos are hardware oscilators controlled by software and va's are just software?

Yes.

[hatembr]

i've checked the manual, it has VCF !

[Tomer=Trance]

so i guss they used cheap parts :mrgreen:

[hatembr]

certainly, because its filter s u x