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unio mystica
12.03.2004, 10:04 AM
I thought I should buy one. It sounds amazing. I?ve tried the older version (MS2000R) and I really liked it (I don?t know about the keyboard though). I didn?t have enough money to buy it then and I kind of forgot it.

What do you think? I don?t mind the polyphony. I allready have enough in my two Viruses. I just need something different. MS2000B or BR (I like the design of the keyboard version so I think I choose it before the rack.)? Is it worth it???

Hollowcell
13.03.2004, 01:20 AM
I like them too.

I wouldn't buy one of the B series though, because if you can find an old stock model around they are really cheap. Plus they are almost identical.

I was looking at grabbing one before I found the auction site with old analogue gear here in Japan.

unio mystica
15.03.2004, 09:39 AM
What are exactly the differences in the two machines. I noticed that the old version is very much cheaper. I don?t want to buy it 2nd hand though. I hope they are selling it in the future too.

Hollowcell
15.03.2004, 11:50 AM
Bellow are the specs I grabbed from the Korg site. They are pretty damn similar! I've heard the 2000B comes with better pre-sets programmed though, but maybe the 2000 can support patches made on the 2000B - I'm not 100% sure on that one though.

MS 2000

Sound Generation Method:
Analog Modeling Synthesis System-Synthesizer Program Multi Timbral = 2 (max., Split/Dual Mode) Voices = 4 voices Sound Source = 2 Oscillator + Noise Generator, EG x 2, LFO x 2, Virtual Patch x 4, MOD Sequence 16 steps (max.) x 3 -Vocoder Program Voices = 4 voices Sound Source = 1 Oscillator + Noise Generator, EG x 2, LFO x 2, 16 Channels vocoder, level and pan of each channel can be edited, Formant Shift function

Programs:
128

Effects:
Modulation effects (3 types), Delay (3 types), Equalizer

Arpeggiator:
6 types

Inputs:
AUDIO IN 1, 2, Level switch LINE / MIC, [AUDIO IN 1, 2(LINE)]Input impedance = 39 k-ohms, Maximum output level = -3.5 dBu (Audio In knob maximum), [AUDIO IN 2(MIC)] Input impedance = 22 k-ohms, Maximum output level = -33 dBu (Audio In knob maximum), Input source impedance = 600 ohms

Outputs:
L/MONO, R, Output impedance = 1.1k-ohms (MONO = 550 ohms), Maximum output level = +6.5 dBu, Load impedance = 100k-ohms, Headphones, Output impedance = 10 ohms, Maximum output level = 35 mW, Load impedance = 33 ohms

Control Inputs:
Assignable Pedal, Assignable Switch

MIDI:
IN, OUT, THRU o Display : 16 charactors x 2 lines with backlight

Power Supply:
DC 9V (AC adapter)

Power Consumption:
8W

Dimensions:
MS2000 = 737.8(W) x 371.3(D) x 147.7(H)mm / 29.0"(W) x 14.6"(D) x 5.8"(H), MS2000R = 482.0(W) x 233.2(D) x 87.1(H)mm / 19.0"(W) x 9.2"(D) x 3.4"(H) 4U rack-mountable

Weight:
7.1kg/15.6 lbs

Accessories:
AC adapter (DC 9V, 600mA)

Keyboard:
44 notes

MS2000B

Sound Generation Method:
Analog Modeling Synthesis System-Synthesizer Program Multi Timbral = 2 (max., Split/Dual Mode) Voices = 4 voices Sound Source = 2 Oscillator + Noise Generator, EG x 2, LFO x 2, Virtual Patch x 4, MOD Sequence 16 steps (max.) x 3 -Vocoder Program Voices = 4 voices Sound Source = 1 Oscillator + Noise Generator, EG x 2, LFO x 2, 16 Channels vocoder, level and pan of each channel can be edited, Formant Shift function

Programs:
128

Effects:
Modulation effects (3 types), Delay (3 types), Equalizer

Arpeggiator:
6 types

Inputs:
AUDIO IN 1, 2, Level switch LINE / MIC, [AUDIO IN 1, 2(LINE)]Input impedance = 39 k-ohms, Maximum output level = -3.5 dBu (Audio In knob maximum), [AUDIO IN 2(MIC)] Input impedance = 22 k-ohms, Maximum output level = -33 dBu (Audio In knob maximum), Input source impedance = 600 ohms

Outputs:
L/MONO, R, Output impedance = 1.1k-ohms (MONO = 550 ohms), Maximum output level = +6.5 dBu, Load impedance = 100k-ohms, Headphones, Output impedance = 10 ohms, Maximum output level = 35 mW, Load impedance = 33 ohms

Control Inputs:
Assignable Pedal, Assignable Switch

MIDI:
IN, OUT, THRU o Display : 16 charactors x 2 lines with backlight

Power Supply:
DC 9V (AC adapter)

Power Consumption:
8W

Dimensions:
MS2000B = 737.8(W) x 371.3(D) x 147.7(H)mm / 29.0"(W) x 14.6"(D) x 5.8"(H), MS2000R = 482.0(W) x 233.2(D) x 87.1(H)mm / 19.0"(W) x 9.2"(D) x 3.4"(H) 4U rack-mountable

Weight:
7.1kg/15.6 lbs

Accessories:
AC adapter (DC 9V, 600mA)

Keyboard:
44 notes

Tomer=Trance
15.03.2004, 01:03 PM
is it just me or am i seing double? :?

Hollowcell
16.03.2004, 12:32 AM
Amazing isn't it!

If you look at the dimensions section u can see that one list is the 2000 and one is the 2000B.

I don't know why they bothered to bring it out homestly!

I think the only noticeable difference is the mic stand built-in.

Tomer=Trance
16.03.2004, 05:29 AM
ok i talked to my friend and he said they just added "new sounds"
to the factory banks and replaced the old ones and changed the color of them ms2000 a bit thats all so if you want it get the old version....

3o3
16.03.2004, 02:40 PM
They should added a couple of more voices.. like 10 maybe even 16 voices and atleast 4 parts

3o3
16.03.2004, 02:43 PM
and if i was you unio mystica - i would look for it second hand..

Here in sweden for example MS2000r goes for around 2000-3000:- SEK [in mint condition of course] and the MS2000 keyboard version cost like 3500-4000:- SEK for that price you could buy 2 ms2k, 8 voices and so on.. 2 virus and 2 ms2k - nice setup haha..

i wish i had money.. the prices is really great right now.. Nord Modular key _with_ expansion, gigbag, cables and so on for 4500:- SEK yesterday - it was sold pretty fast thou.. i know the seller

udenjoe
20.03.2004, 01:03 AM
I've heard form the ms2000 group that someone asked the difference of the b OS. He got a reply that said," It says ms2000b on the startup screen." Or something like this. They are identical.

The b is black and has an xlr direct mic input.

You can load the ms2000b new sound set to the older ms2000.

Blank
20.03.2004, 10:49 AM
The MS2000B is just there anniversary addition, its black and it comes with that stupid mic, oh and the new sounds can be downloaded from korg for the MS2000...

peace
Blank

3o3
20.03.2004, 01:43 PM
Better to buy an second hand ms2k then

Tomer=Trance
20.03.2004, 02:44 PM
you can one realy cheap
about 200 euro i think for the rack

unio mystica
22.04.2004, 09:13 AM
I haven?t seen any for 200euros. I think they are someway between 300 and 400. And 500-600euros for the keyboard.

Tomer=Trance
22.04.2004, 03:21 PM
did you search the german ebay?

Monsieur Pef
14.05.2004, 08:23 AM
I own one ms2000 rack version, use it a lot for drumnbass basslines, it can make really wicked basslines, very bright and so agrressive youll be frightened :)
for the first oscillator you ve got the possibility to modify continuously the wave so that the sawtooth becomes a double higher one adding a great deal of overtone ; i m not sure thats possible on the virus (the shape offers you to morph through the different wave forms but not so a modification i believe)

DIGITAL SCREAMS
30.07.2004, 11:53 PM
What exactly is it about the tone of a ms2000 that u like?

DS

unio mystica
04.08.2004, 01:35 PM
The agressiveness and analog sound.

DIGITAL SCREAMS
04.08.2004, 01:47 PM
LOL

Its got a good vocoder......I like that the best

DS

nordlead
05.08.2004, 12:23 PM
I just got myself a 2nd hand microkorg (same engine as MS2000 I think) and it sounds great. I have some problems with the mixing, as some of the sounds are like 'too fat'. I must say, though, I'm extremely happy with it. Amazing little machine, great basses.

The vocoder is cool just to make phone calls. Funny stuff.

Tomer=Trance
05.08.2004, 08:30 PM
LOL
hehe
"hellow,whos this?"
"arrr this is mister roboto and im coming to get ya!"
now! breakbeat in the backround! pum pum
pumpum paa :twisted:
"stop calling here you stupid robot,im calling the police!" :o

Hollowcell
06.08.2004, 12:32 AM
LOL
hehe
"hellow,whos this?"
"arrr this is mister roboto and im coming to get ya!"
now! breakbeat in the backround! pum pum
pumpum paa :twisted:
"stop calling here you stupid robot,im calling the police!" :o

Oh oh, I think this forum has warped it's first young mind. Sorry to Tomer's parents.

I'd love an MS one day though. First an MS-20, but a 2000 would be nice too.

Tomer=Trance
06.08.2004, 09:04 AM
LOL
hehe
"hellow,whos this?"
"arrr this is mister roboto and im coming to get ya!"
now! breakbeat in the backround! pum pum
pumpum paa :twisted:
"stop calling here you stupid robot,im calling the police!" :o

Oh oh, I think this forum has warped it's first young mind. Sorry to Tomer's parents.
.

they love me either way....
i think :wink:

unio mystica
05.10.2004, 09:27 AM
I?ll have my very own MS2000 today. Got it for 430euros which is a real bargain I would say. It?s supposed to be in mint condition. I can?t wait to get out of school and go to the post office to get it. :D

Tomer=Trance
05.10.2004, 09:44 AM
enjoy..

jasedee
05.10.2004, 12:15 PM
please let us know how it is.....I have been wandering about one of these for some time now.....

Cheers!