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303lovesit
16.04.2004, 09:20 AM
This morning thought id plug my virus straight out the outputs of the VC direct in to my monitors with planet wave cables and even with the volume up or down I still hear quite alot of white noise!! I always thought it was the mixer!!
Anyone else have this?????
Tomer=Trance
16.04.2004, 10:30 AM
sounds like something is wrong with the putputs
did you try using different outputs on the virus?
303lovesit
16.04.2004, 11:22 AM
no i havnt tried yet but will do in a minute!!
DIGITAL SCREAMS
16.04.2004, 03:54 PM
If you use outputs 1 & 2 AND you have midi 'in' & 'out' plugged in you will experience noise. In fact you will experience noise pop and other weird artifacts. I have not actually used outputs 2 & 3.....so I cant comment. Its a bit of a bummer because if you wanted to do a live gig using all outputs (i.e. surround sound) you'd be a little fooked wouldnt you. Ive experienced this with ALL the virus' that Ive owned.
No doubt, the next model will remedy this. I have a new KC (2weeks old) and it has a much cleaner headphone output now!).
DS
Tomer=Trance
16.04.2004, 07:01 PM
so its hardware not software
thats kind of bad because this means that software updates wont be able to fix it
i havent expirienced noisy outputs with my virus b
DIGITAL SCREAMS
08.05.2004, 04:43 PM
Did this help u???
Let me know
DS
If you use outputs 1 & 2 AND you have midi 'in' & 'out' plugged in you will experience noise. In fact you will experience noise pop and other weird artifacts. I have not actually used outputs 2 & 3.....so I cant comment. Its a bit of a bummer because if you wanted to do a live gig using all outputs (i.e. surround sound) you'd be a little fooked wouldnt you. Ive experienced this with ALL the virus' that Ive owned.
No doubt, the next model will remedy this. I have a new KC (2weeks old) and it has a much cleaner headphone output now!).
DS
sorry, but that's just wrong. your studio has a ground problem, not the virus. if you hear pops and clicks or even modem-type noise that normally indicates that something is wrong with one of your synth/interfaces etc. do a simple test: check if the problem persists when you plug a headphone into your virus (which must not be MIDI/Audio connected at this time). if it's gone it's your studio. if not, your virus is damaged.
marc
DIGITAL SCREAMS
08.05.2004, 08:13 PM
I have the midi going from Virus to pc soundcard. I have the audio output going from virus to active speakers (I use no mixer when playing around). When the midi and audio are plugged in at same time I get this kind of noise. Do you think there is a problem with that kind of setup?
Since the audio output 1&2 is right next to the midi in/out....Ive kinda concluded that neither of these outputs are sheilded from interference. Perhaps someone could correct me on that :)
DS
Hollowcell
09.05.2004, 01:27 AM
Have you tried plugging in the headphones by themselves as Marc said though DS?
I don't know alot about grounding and power setups, but I do know over here in Japan the standard wall power out-lets do not have earth. To stop the little bit of noise I had in my setup, I made my own earthing sytem running the mixer and speakers on the same earth cable (infact most things go through the same earth cable). This stopped the small amount of noise I had straight away.
I'd try the headphones DS, if there is no noise, then read up about earthing/grounding your gear. :)
DIGITAL SCREAMS
09.05.2004, 08:41 AM
Hiya
There is a little white noise in the background at high volumn levels.....b'cos i have my audio cables going from the Virus to active speakers in a messy way. Since im only playing around with the Virus theres no point me making all the cabling neat (Gotoa move my gear down to anothr next week anywayz!). Its not the constant background noise that im referring to......
Its the occasional weird pops and clicks I get when my Virus is middied up to my soundcard. I can hear these artifacts both, when running the Virus to active monitors or headphones. Now, THe computer/soundcard could be at fault.....or there is an issue with the sheilding between midi in/out and audio in/out.
*I'm sceptical as to whether its the pc/sound card combo...b'cos I seem to remember having this with the Delta 1010 interface.
**Another weird thing is that when its midied up, I serioruly loose poly when playing notes into my sequencer. I like have about 4-6 note poly....notes just cut out all the time.
***This all becomes part of my midi hell !
However this is all being offset by the fact that im making some really nice sounds on my virus heheheeh
DS
Juho L
09.05.2004, 09:54 AM
I don't know alot about grounding and power setups, but I do know over here in Japan the standard wall power out-lets do not have earth.
In these cases it's good to have a protective separation transformer and always get an extension cord big enough to fit all of your gear in one extension cord. Making a daisychain with extension cords is not a good thing.
Other problem is that if you take power from two different outlets, there might be in a different phase. This means that in worst case you have 230V potential difference between the grounds and that will cause hum and hiss.
303lovesit
11.05.2004, 06:50 AM
Well, I tell you what I ve 12 separate wall plugs with only one plug going in to each one and even when i just have my virus going straight in to my monitors I still get quite a bit of white noise which irritates me so fucking much!!!
Ive got in to a habbit off listening to it to much though LOL!!
Also the other day I plugged some planet wave cables in to it and coz there a little tighter then most jack leads, when i pulled um out it pulled the metal rimming off inside the virus output making me think these are cheaply made or atleast not designed to its full potential!!!
I mean it dosnt really matter but just sumin that is annoying me!!!
any joy DS? :)
DIGITAL SCREAMS
11.05.2004, 08:24 AM
303....
Is this noise present in a any recording u make?
*I use Planet Wave cables aswell and yes they are very tight fitting in the audio sockets of the virus. I think i might have to replace those cables b'cos I think they are straning the inputs/outputs too much
DS
303lovesit
11.05.2004, 08:31 AM
Urmpp not really alittle I suppose but im listening to the background noises rather then th sound if you get me but even with out monitors and plug head phones in with out anything playing in the Virus its still very hisssssssy!!!
Fuck it ill get buy!!! :?
DIGITAL SCREAMS
11.05.2004, 08:37 AM
Phone up ur local power supply company and tell them that they are fucking u up with all this noisey power that they are supplying u! U could always invest ?30 to get a mains cleaner.....i use this on hifi to great effect. Using it on studio gear is also a must in imho.
*I sometimes get a bit of noise...whereas other times its totally silent. It could be the power supply coming into ur house is a little 'dirty'. It does happen.
DS
303lovesit
11.05.2004, 10:21 AM
Thanks mate ill look in to this! :D
DIGITAL SCREAMS
16.06.2004, 11:31 AM
Yes, actually Marc was correct. I dont experience this when just using headphones.
DS
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