Virus C question

[Blank]

I was wondering because i have rack ears for either the nova or the virus C in a box i am not sure which it is for so i am wondering does the virus C come with rack ears or do u have to buy them separate...?

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[hatembr]

i think you have to buy them seperate!

[Blank]

so it might have been the nova i got the rack ears with..

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[hatembr]

certainly :)
i remember i didn't get any rack ears when i bought my C

[Blank]

yeah i just checked it out and there is no way it was to the virus because u have to take off the back plate of the virus c to put on the rack kit...and the rack ears i got were just ears....but i found a place i can pick them up for 37 bucks, no tax, free shipping....

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[hatembr]

are they easy to mount ? or is it better to take it to a store ?

[Blank]

they r real easy to mount...all u do is take the screws off the bottom of the virus C, take the bottom and rear plates and swap them with the rack kit plates...simple...does not take a rocket science :wink: Not like install analogue filters onto it... :lol:

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[hatembr]

hehe and especially it costs much less than analog filters!
i really wonder what is going to be the successor of the C!

[Blank]

honestly i dont know but i will say this...it better not be just adding a few little features...because that just isnt worth it...they really need a complete make over...just for something different

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[saba]

A wavetable virus :)
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[hatembr]

Well it all depends on those features they'd add, for ex. i didn't like those new arp patterns at all, i don't think it was something so important... couldn't they use that memory for something else ? :?
personnally i don't really need something completely different, i think we need to try 100% of the virus capacities first... it has so many possibilities

[Juho L]

A wavetable virus :)

First I read "a vegetable Virus" and thought "what an innovation!". I agree with Blank on that the next Virus should be something completely new. Little improvements just aren't interesting enough. For example sweeping wavetables and audio rate LFO's would be nice addition.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

If Access want to take an even bigger share of market...they should bring out a 100% wavetable synth using the 'Virus' filters.....and leave the 'Virus' brand alone.

Access have nailed it with VA. I honestly cant see how it can get any better. MOre features? No thx I dont need them.

Personally, I think models run in 3's. There were 3 revisions of the Prohet 5, 3 revisions of the ARP Odesssey etc etc. Now lets have some sexy pure digital wavetable weeeeee.........

DS

[Tomer=Trance]

i think they should focus on incresing the virus polyphony to workstation amount
64-96 voices which means few more dsp parts and more ram

i think a modular will be the perfect choise for the new access synth
it doesnt have to be called a virus like clavia did with its nord modular\nm g2

just give me the virus oscs and filters and im happy and unlimited modulation and wiring posibilties and im happy :o

buttom line they should keep their products digital....

[Juho L]

i think they should focus on incresing the virus polyphony to workstation amount
64-96 voices which means few more dsp parts and more ram

Who the hell needs 64 polyphony on a VA? Well, maybe then if you drown everything in unison so that all the patches sound like "CHAAAAAA".

[Tomer=Trance]

just to use all 16 midi channels of it and not to worry about runing out of poly

[Juho L]

just to use all 16 midi channels of it and not to worry about runing out of poly

But who really needs that much poly? An averge VA user copes fine with current polyphony so how many of those people are willing to pay extra to get polyphony they really don't need? I think increasing polyphony just costs too much regarding the benefits and this is a bad drawback for the Virus when people are choosing a VA. This is much like the analog filter issue.

[Tomer=Trance]

well personaly i like to work with midi till the last second or if i want to manupulate audio when it comes to synths

[Blank]

I would say buy another synth then...I cannot see myself using just the virus for my songs...although the virus is good, its not the only and it can be overused if u have it running all 16 parts in each song...you will be known as that virus guy!!

the modular idea is good...im not much on wavetable myself...hell if we r going all out why not an FM subtractive synth with analogue filters :wink:

I didnt figure this topic would just go freaking crazy like this !!! :wink:

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[Tomer=Trance]

well i do use soft synths and a nl but still i feel i dont have enough
maybe its because i dont use all the outputs from the synths

[saba]

Pretty much, an Access version of the Waldorf XT would be superb. I'd get an XT/XTk, but alas, no more Waldorf.
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[Blank]

I believe that is adequately why waldorf went under...The XT/XTK did not seem like an acutely popular synth...

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[Tomer=Trance]

i think many people are afrid of above then simple to program synths
and the xt got the name of a complex synth and kind of hard to program

[Juho L]

i think many people are afrid of above then simple to program synths
and the xt got the name of a complex synth and kind of hard to program

Sometimes I get a feeling that every synth that is said to be complex to program is actually very easy to program. The people who say it's complex just are those masterminds that don't bother to read manuals.

[Hollowcell]

I'd have to say a modular Virus would cause me to sit up and take notice a bit.

Before that though Access, please make some more filters for the VC.

[Tomer=Trance]

well im sure there will be a few more vc os updates before the next access product

[Blank]

I agree with tomer...im atleast hopeing there r more updates :wink:


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[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Well new filter types might be inevitable...considering the ION.

There is one filter type I wont be needing and thats the JUpiter 8 b'cos Ive just got hold of another one (well my band m8 has atually). Unlike the JP8 I owned this one is mint from an anlogue dealer....cost nearly ?2000 though :(

Goto http://www.vintagesynth.org/artists/ap_ub.shtml and listen to 'Botz' or 'Moondusted'. Then you'll understand why people still want to use true analog weeeeee.......

Those piercing rising synth sounds are Jupiter 6 or 8 for sure. I love the dirtyness of pure analog tracks.

DS

[Tomer=Trance]

i dont think access can use "the jupiter filter" because roland already trade marked it and used it again on their jp80*0

[ben crosland]

I'd much rather see new filter types than recreations of old ones. For me, the best thing about the new LP Analog filters isn't the 4Pole minimoog emulation - it's the self-oscillating 1Pole. I keep finding myself coming back to that filter at the moment, because that's where the new sounds are.

[Hollowcell]

. I keep finding myself coming back to that filter at the moment, because that's where the new sounds are.

I second this!

Please make another Access!

Any secret word on this Ben?

[dries]

more voices would be great. sustained baselines + fatt strings are cut-off all the time.

i dont think access should change the concept - they should just make a bigger version. and make it look like the polyfusion or moog modular.

i think a big VA modular synth unter $3,000 would be a great thing.

i like that old analog stuff.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Yep, I like the 1-pole filter aswell. Very nice for making bright/clear extreme sounds.

DS

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

I think we should all hold our horses. The updates access make to their products are above and beyond any other manufacturer.....I dont think we should pressurise access to keep making new OS every 3 months.

One addition I'd be quite interested to hear would be a ggood software emulated tube amp kinda thingywingy. Havingsaid that the Virus is defo one of the warmest digital synths ive heard...nice.

Oh I cant wait to play on my m8's JP8. IM going to start making JP8 emulated soundset for teh Virus.

DS

[Timo]

And a 320x240 touchscreen! A two-line LCD with tens of scrolling sub-menus is just not in any way conducive to efficient sound-programming!

Thanks ;)

PS > And sawtooth-width waveform-modulation (http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/viewtopic.php?p=19221#19221) please!

PPS > And Z3ta+ waveform manipulation capabilities! (Which would make sense on the 320x240 touchscreen you're going to implement! ;) )

PPPS > While you're at it, user-importable arppegio patterns, user-importable waveforms and wavetable capabilities, dynamic processing (compression, limiting, transient-designing etc.) wouldn't go amiss.

PPPPS > ...As would significantly greater "hands-on" controls be appreciated too. A ribbon controller with Z (depth) control, XY joystick or XY touchpad (a la Korg Z1, but with Z [depth] control), or a kind of orb that you can roll around with your fingers like a tracker-ball, or even something similarly to the infra-red D-Beam like Roland use, and a horizontal-aspect pitch-bend (I just can't get the hang of the vertically-placed wheel), to name just a few. No point in all that synthesis power if you can't interact with it easily!

PPPPPS > Cheers! :D

[Hollowcell]

And a 320x240 touchscreen! A two-line LCD with tens of scrolling sub-menus is just not in any way conducive to efficient sound-programming!


Yep - Then they should name it the Virus Plague! :wink:

So what was this thread about? Oh yeh, the Nova comes with the rack ears - the VC doesn't. Trying to rack either will be a hassle as both have rear mounted jacks. Hehe.

[Timo]

i dont think access can use "the jupiter filter" because roland already trade marked it and used it again on their jp80*0

How come Access managed to re-create the Moog filter, then? Surely the original Moog filter was patented?

Howver, an additional simulated Jupiter8/6 filter would indeed be awesome!

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

These emulations are fun....but not like the real deal. I dont think anayone could ever truly emulate the Jupiter filter. These emulations add variety in sound...which is a very nice + point in my books.

DS 8)

[Timo]

Sorry, I meant copy the filter 'design'. I thought the Moog filter was some sort of ladder-filter, and that particular design had been patented, including any emulations? If they can get around the Moog filter design patents, I'm sure they'll be able to work around the Jupiter's! (With a wee bit of luck) ;)

Howver, Korg, for example, have recreated their Legacy VSTis (from the PolySix, MS20, but not the Wavestation, cos that was digital to start with) using what they call Component-Technology, simulating everything that goes off in the actual circuitry components rather than directly modelling the result from the dry input. Interesting, and might make virtual emulations more life-like.