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ipaqlinux48
19.07.2004, 12:52 PM
Hi,

In the near future, I must have some plugins especially needed for mastering my songs. I can do three things:
1. Buy some native plugins
2. Buy a DSP expansion board with some good quality plugins (TC PoCo, Mackie UAD-1, ...)
3. Or buy a dedicated processor (TC Electronics, Behringer, ...)

Now, because my PC must handle a lot of things, only solution 2 or 3 are on the menu. But I've a problem with the 2nd solution. A dedicated hardware processor lasts forever (until it is broken), but a software-only solutions lasts until the company decides to stop writing plugins. Suppose, five year later, when the 64 bit PC's are just as normal as 32 bit PC's are now. Microsoft will bring out a new 64 bit OS. OK, I must upgrade to a newer Cubase version, but will there also be a port of the TC PoCo, or Mackie UAD-1? I'm afraid that a software only solution is a short-term investment (5 years). Certainly now that the 64-bit era is waiting in front of our doors.

How do you guys think about it? Should I better invest in a hardware solution or not?

Tomer=Trance
19.07.2004, 01:48 PM
the tc compressor and limiter are the only decent things in the tc plug in boundle.
i would skip it and get a dsp card or hardware

ipaqlinux48
19.07.2004, 04:07 PM
i would skip it and get a dsp card or hardware
So, which dsp card of hardware would you suggest?

Drammy
19.07.2004, 04:18 PM
Get a UAD-1 for compression and some voxengo plugs for mastering. You will then have some incredible tools at your fingertips.

Martyn

Tomer=Trance
19.07.2004, 05:01 PM
what exacly are you looking for?
compressors?
reverbs?
preamp emulation?

ipaqlinux48
19.07.2004, 05:36 PM
what exacly are you looking for?
compressors?
reverbs?
preamp emulation?
Compressors, expanders, limiters en reverbs.

Tomer=Trance
19.07.2004, 06:39 PM
as marty said a dsp card will be the best and more afficiant solution then lets say buy hardware seperatly.
im sure there are shopes who sell both close to your area
just go and try them out.
i always say never to buy something blidnly :wink:

Hollowcell
20.07.2004, 12:13 AM
Definitely take Tommers advice there. Don't buy anything blindly. Go and listen to a few different things and decide what's best for your music.

Dsp cards for reverb are great for sure (and they beat VSTs for compression/limiting), but I still think out board valve compression can't be beaten. One day I will have enough money for one.

Will you be using it live?

jasedee
20.07.2004, 04:19 AM
Hi,

In the near future, I must have some plugins especially needed for mastering my songs.

For mastering? Send your mixes to a mastering engineer. Software wont make you one.......(or hardware for that fact)

But if you had to, I would advise you get something like the TC Finalizer (Hardware) unit. Apparently that is a good mastering tool.

And like the others say, try before you buy!

Cheers,

Jase

Drammy
21.07.2004, 09:10 AM
The Powercore has the Master X5 available and the Master X3 comes as standard with the PCI version.

For those who are not aware, the Master X5 is the same signal processor as the Finaliser and a fraction of the price.

Tomer=Trance
21.07.2004, 11:23 AM
doesnt the finalizer cost around 2k ?

Drammy
21.07.2004, 11:57 AM
I thought so but have just found it at Digital Village on a price crash at ?999

http://www.dv247.com/invt/22002

Drammy
21.07.2004, 12:07 PM
For more info:

http://www.tcelectronic.com/default.asp?id=1346 - Master X3

and
http://www.tcelectronic.com/default.asp?id=1600 - Master X5

So you can buy the software Finaliser with 5 bands instead of the 3 for only ?143.

Not bad eh?

Of course you need a Powercore to run it on - the UAD-1 still has better plugs coming with it as standard for mastering / compression / EQ.

Tomer=Trance
21.07.2004, 01:29 PM
i wonder if tc is going to release anymore va synths for the powercore-
waldorf or bigger novation synths.