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subosc1
30.08.2004, 05:59 PM
CAN SOMEONE GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE THAT I CAN USE. I CAN'T REALLY TELL MUCH DIFFERENCE FROM A REGULAR LOW PASS. IS THERE SOME DEMO PARAMETERS THAT SOMEONE CAN POST, SO I CAN SEE THE ADVANTAGE'S.

ben crosland
30.08.2004, 09:19 PM
It's alright, you don't have to shout! We'll still help you even if you don't write everything in caps! :wink:

From -INIT- patch, set the following values:

Filter 1 Mode = Analog 2P

Resonance = 105

Cutoff = 50

Keyfollow (1+2) = +63

Play some notes.

Hear that growling fluctuation? That's an effect you can only achieve with the new filters.

Now from the -INIT- patch:

Turn Osc Balance all the way to Osc1

Set Osc1 to Sine

Filter1 Mode = Analog 2P

Check against normal Lowpass by pressing Value - and + simultaneously.

Now set it back to Analog 2P and adjust the Saturation.

Nice, isn't it?

subosc1
31.08.2004, 12:16 PM
sorry about the all caps. I write in all caps all day long due to the fact I work with engineering drawings. I don't see it as screaming, it's just capital letters. Anyway thanx for your parameters that's exactly what I was looking for. I'll take your parameters home today & try it out.

DIGITAL SCREAMS
31.08.2004, 08:41 PM
Subosc1 - As far as VA's go...the Virus is the darkest sounding of them all....and you probably already know this. Thats one of the reasons why the Virus excels at atmospheric soundscapes.

Ive used the Moog filters extensively and I'm of the opinion that they are even darker sounding than the standard Virus LP. The differences between the Virus LP and Moog appear subtle at first......but you will soon hear the aggressive nuances in the Moog filter type. The Moog filter can sound so raw that its painful to the ears. Probably one of the most expressive/rawest digital filters ever made.

What version of the Virus do you currently have?

DS

DIGITAL SCREAMS
31.08.2004, 09:06 PM
You watched this yet?

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1366

Try running sounds like that on a 2000 watt PA system and you can kill people.

DS

DIGITAL SCREAMS
31.08.2004, 09:08 PM
Oh yeah as the picture says....Ben likes the OS6.5 filters hehehehe

DS :P

Timo
01.09.2004, 12:18 AM
Ben Crosland works for Access? I never knew that!

Nice to 'see' you Ben, in the vid! :) Nice demo too. That moog filter sounds awesome. 8O

DIGITAL SCREAMS
01.09.2004, 08:58 AM
Ben is a UK based synthwizard.....beta tester for Access. What Ben doesnt know is that im an Alpha tester.......and when im done through with this new modular.....ermmm cough cough :oops: i'll let Ben try it.

DS

ben crosland
01.09.2004, 09:59 AM
Ben Crosland works for Access? I never knew that!

I'm not an actual employee, but I do quite a few 'odd jobs' for them, including the trade shows.

Tomer=Trance
01.09.2004, 11:57 AM
thats you there? cool job!
do access give you free expens acount? :wink:

subosc1
01.09.2004, 02:00 PM
I have a "C" desktop. I'm also having a problem with the soundiver prog. I have everything set-up properly because it gets halfway thru downloading "A" & just freezes up every time. I have a soundblaster audigy s/c butt I don't think that's the prob. I don't even think I will need to use the prog. I just wanted to try it out & bam prob's right out of the box. Do any of you guys use the soundiver software?

hatembr
01.09.2004, 02:19 PM
i have the phobia of soundriver, i don't know why, i have my c since two years and i still haven't tried it yet

Drammy
01.09.2004, 02:44 PM
SubOsc1

I used to have the same problem with Sounddiver until I changed Soundcard.

I upgraded from a M-Audio Audiophile 2496 to a RME HDSP9632.

Works a treat now!

I also changed MIDI cables to some very high quality ones - might be worth trying them first.

psynpose
01.09.2004, 03:52 PM
Hi Ben, I wonder if you could just list the parameters you were using when you got that filter sound on your video - the sound you had when you played that funky little melody just after you say 'still self oscillating' about 3/4 of the way through the video. I've tried, but try as I might, I can't get the 'bite' that your sound had, even though it should be easy.

Many thanks

Pete

ben crosland
01.09.2004, 07:42 PM
Hi Pete,

I was changing the Filter Mode (Filter Edit menu) from Analog 4P through to Analog 1P. As the number of poles is reduced, the sound gets more and more bite.