going to change my computer... any advice?

[hatembr]

so

i was thinking AMD or Intel ? until now i used only Intel chipsets but some friends told me that AMD are far better and faster in audio and video... the only point is that some games do work only on Intel platforms, can't remember them but i know i read it somewhere....
so any AMD users can help me plz? which chipset are you using? is it really faster?

[Blank]

Its all about how much money you want to spend...now adays AMD and Intel are both fairly closely priced...But I dont think that there is much difference in speed that you will actually notice when working...

As for games not working i highly doubt it...maybe are faster with one brand versus the other, which you can later reference the above statement

peace
Blank

[Tomer=Trance]

intel had just released its 4 ghz single prossesor

[Blank]

how much 1000$$

peace
Blank

[hatembr]

well i am quite sure there is a difference between the two and AMD is (at least) a little faster than Intel. A lot of people told me about that but they are more into 3D modeling and designing rather than audio, that 's why i'd like ot have daw-oriented users' opinions.
As far as the games go, unfortunatly i don't remember which one exactly i read about, but may be it was about an older chipset, may be the new games generation work on both perfectly, anyway... i didn't make my decision yet...

[Blank]

my point is not that they are the exact same speed...but there is more factors involved then just the cpu speed...the ram, harddrive, mobo, graphix card, soundcard...they all together will affect the computer speed...and i do not believe running your computer (actually using it) you will notice a difference...I have bought AMD and Intel...its like coke or pepsi...one is not better then the other just slightly different

peace
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[Drammy]

Yeah but Pepsi stays fizzy for longer!

I have always bought Intel. I believe them to run a bit cooler than AMD chips - the ones I have bought anyway.

I agree with Blank though - you can't really go wrong with either. As long as you buy the correct components that work well together you should be happy.

Of course the main bottleneck in any system is the speed of the front-side buss, so try get yourself the fastest you can afford - baring in mind that you will need RAM to match it otherwise you will get a bottleneck going in and out of the memory - I bought a ASUS mobo recently with an 800MHz so that I can expand the memory - at the time the fastest affordable memory was 400MHz.

Just something to consider,

Martyn

[Tomer=Trance]

Yeah but Pepsi stays fizzy for longer!

RC cola rulez! 8O

[Smag]

I've always had AMD processors and they're fine. make sure your unit has plenty of PCI slots for all those lovely UAD and Powercore cards you're going to put in it. Also, USB ports on the front of the tower is a big help and make sure you get a few of them.

[saba]

The chipset is more important than the processor. Intel make the most stable, reliable and compatible ones.

Go Intel.

Sure its more expensive, and not exactly the quickest nowadays, but you're using your computer for work, not playing games and doing silly stuff, aren't you?
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[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

A P4 4ghz???!!! I cant find that.....

Im only going to upgrade when intel hit the 5ghz mark

DS

[saba]

A P4 4ghz???!!! I cant find that.....

Im only going to upgrade when intel hit the 5ghz mark

DS

Intel will not be going in that direction. All the semiconductor pushing is towards multi-core CPU's, since they finally worked out that its the better option.

They are hitting the physical limits of high-speed switching.
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[hatembr]

forgot this thread :D

ok... i bought a Asus AMD A7N8X-E Deluxe (WiFi Edition) + XP 3000+ Barton (400Mhz)

i didn't install it yet, but honestly.... i fell in love with the new compact iMac G5!! all packed into the screen!! but god it's 1850euro!! if i find a cheap 2nd hand G4, i think i'll sell my 2 pcs and go for it!

[jasedee]

i fell in love with the new compact iMac G5!! all packed into the screen!! but god it's 1850euro!! if i find a cheap 2nd hand G4, i think i'll sell my 2 pcs and go for it!
Now you're talking my language!!!!!!!

One more convert for the "cool" team :)

[Juho L]

but god it's 1850euro!!

Good lord! By the way is it true that the Mac laptops are cheaper than equivalent tabletop Mac?

[jasedee]

Good lord! By the way is it true that the Mac laptops are cheaper than equivalent tabletop Mac?
Well.....the best Laptop (17 inch G4 Powermac) is AUD$4500, and the best desktop (Dual 2.5Ghz G5) is AUD$5300

[Panopticon]

but god it's 1850euro!!

Good lord! By the way is it true that the Mac laptops are cheaper than equivalent tabletop Mac?

Not really. You have to consider that the Powerbooks are still single processor G4's, while the Powermacs are dual processor G5's. The diff between the G4's and G5's is astonishing, so there's really no way to call the laptop equivalent. Also, the Powermacs hold 8GB RAM, which really helps with plugs like Drumkit from Hell Superior, which can use upwards of 4GB at a time.

Bottom line, in terms of available power for music production, the Powermacs are different beasts entirely than the Powerbooks. I have one project with 157 tracks, over a hundred plugins, over two-dozen soft-synth/sampler plugs, video playback, and MIDI control for our live light show. Processor load is about 80% at 24/44.1, 1024 buffer size. You would come nowhere close to this on a powerbook (or G5 iMac, for that matter).

The Powermacs are spendy, but they're rock solid, fast, and fairly pain-free.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Interesting specs. Anyone here use dual processors?

DS

[tranzash]

I use dual proc G5 2.0.

[Panopticon]

Yeah I'm dual 2.0 G5 as well...

[jasedee]

:cry: *envious*

I bought the G5 Single 1.6Ghz. At the time there was no Dual 1.7, and now the single 1.6 is no longer sold!!!!! Bastardos

[saba]

Interesting specs. Anyone here use dual processors?

DS

Pair of 3.4Ghz Xeons, with EMT64.
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[blay]

ok... i bought a Asus AMD A7N8X-E Deluxe (WiFi Edition) + XP 3000+ Barton (400Mhz)

whats the deal with these barton cpu's? id be interested to hear how this is going for you hatembr....

damn all of you with your beasty dual g5's... im still surviving on my old powerbook g4 800 :oops: not the fastest beast around but damn she's stable 8)

[Gopal]

I talked to a retailer that my company deals with and they have been selling intel chips for 15 years and in that whole time only 2 have failed. They sold 2 AMD chips, and they both failed.

Straight from the horses mouth

[hatembr]

i didn't try it yet blay, i need to save all my data (20Go :S ) first before i format the disk.

Gopal: i know a lot of people who use AMD and they never hard any problem. I know 3D designers who tried both and noticed AMD was in many renderings faster than its Intel equivalent, and of course, not to mention that most games are best rendered using AMD proc.

[hatembr]

done

i bought a 120Go maxtor hard disk and mounted the new m/b and the XP 3000+proc. It is running at FSB 400Mhz, in phase with the 512 kingston RAM....and right now things are still ok, i didn't try recording audio yet to compare the cpu speed, but as far as general windows and internet use go, it is quite fast! no regrets, and i hope i won't be disappointed....

i'll keep future amd users informed ;)