Prodigy - Always outnumbered, never outgunned

[jasedee]

Just got it yesterday........

And I love it! Hard, nasty, classic Prodigy! Track 2 the stand out for me, entitled "Girl". Have a listen to that high-frequency synth line/hook, the way when it starts, there is this awesome effect like a vibrato or something being tweaked.....Brilliant!

Liam Howlett is a freak, and pushing out some quality, cutting edge, intelligent electronica! Always evolving and changing........

Check it out, it is well worth it....

Jase

[Tomer=Trance]

defently a great cd all tho i heard some mixed opinions on it
some saying their old work was better but i also like their new cd.

[Gopal]

you guys have got to be kidding. Not even a touching the sides of their early stuff. Go back and listen to it to refresh your memory.

[jasedee]

you guys have got to be kidding. Not even a touching the sides of their early stuff. Go back and listen to it to refresh your memory.
'Experience' will always be my favorite, but I am not disputing that this album is "better" than their earlier albums, all I am saying is that I think it is fucking awesome!!!!!

And, those early albums will always be "better", because they take us back to our early adult lives, and remind us of good times....it is the nostalgia factor.....

The last couple of albums they put out, I didnt buy. I was pretty dissapointed really cos it just sounded like they were trying to give people what they thought was classic prodigy sound, but not hitting the right spot. With this album, they have gotten back to the basics, and I think they have progressed, changed, and pushed the limits once again.

This is mainstream, commercial pop/dance people!!!!!!!! Bloody awesome....think about it???? All the other crap being played on MTV etc, and then we have 'Prodigy'.....restores my faith :)

[Hollowcell]

I do like some of the songs from "Always out numbered, never out gunned", but it's just the overall "sound" of the album which gets on my nerves. But when comparing the new album to say "Fat of the Land" (my all time favourite album), it doesn't compare in many other ways too. Drum programming/sounds, synths and compostion were all better in the Fat of the land. Personal choice though I guess, although I'm not alone in thinking this.

The best thing about the new album is the fact he has actually brought out a new album. Just the fact he has released something is great news. Maybe with the next one he'll incorporate his new found passion with some lengthy but benificial production and compostion techniques. Fingers crossed.

[Gopal]

Its what happens when you go to software. Things just don't sound right.

You know he wrote the whole friggen album on reason. Bad idea Liam

[Tomer=Trance]

yeah i heard about that.
he uses only analog for bass but he wana use reason for synths
whats the big idea in that?
bahhh
analog synths and hardware just dont inspire him anymore
:!:

weird guy...

[Gopal]

Yeah, someone should explain to him about the properties of electricity and output stages on hardware. It's the voltage that makes the hardware sound stronger than software. You can't replicate a good output stage.

I've always been a huge Prodigy fan but I just don't find this new album groundbreaking. All the sounds have been heard before which kindof makes it an alsorand in comparison to the pioneering work of the other albums.

Maybe I'm being a bit hard on him but after all, he is the one that set the bar so high!

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Its what happens when you go to software. Things just don't sound right.

You know he wrote the whole friggen album on reason. Bad idea Liam

Well I tend to agree. Early Prodigy (Circa 1995) used alot of analog synths and decent drum machines......this album is a softsynth showcase...nothing more. Early Prodigy used alot of Moog and Sequential gear for crusty drums and ripping leads and raw bass. Now their stuff sounds restrianed......no amount of plug-in distortion can make up for it.

Its like what Jean Michael Jarre did with his last two albums.....went pro-tools/VST etc....fecking bollox....totally lost his sound.

For me, there is nothing remotely interesting about a 'Phat! Rippin' Hard Sync!' done on a softsynth...... Now if u were to do that on some analogs then....you'd hear the difference and in my view it would sound alot more authentic, raw, spine tingling, atmospheric. Some people around here and on other forums seem to totally underestimate just how important it is to be using the right kind of synth for the job in hand.

Sure a softsynth can put out some nice incidental stuff.......some nice textures etc.....but for solid basses....in your face leads, blips and bleeps that have presence, reso effects....etc etc....then lets knowck off the bullshit....real analog is where its at for those. Thats where the Prodigy have gone wrong on this latest album. Pretty good song writing let down by its production.

DS

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Hehe....as you can see....im a litle particulalr about synths...

DS :lol:

[Merlot]

From what I read in a mag which interviewed liam howlett, basically he sampled the hardware gear and loaded it into the nnxt in reason. SO the sounds were not created using a softsynth. Basically just loaded and played. I believe it was in Remix magazine about 4 maybe 5 issues ago.

[waketek]

Liam, said in one of his articles that (as Merlot pointed out) that not only did he upload his 10 yrs worth of Samples into Reason ....But then goes on to say that he was shooting for a rough distorted sound that was not over produced. He also did not let the pro tools guy smooth the mix out and make sure all the samples were perfecty butted up to one another for any of the tracks. In the Future Music September 04 issue FM152 there is a good article giving you a deep and thorough description of the process he calls his rough and ready approach under the interveiw section Jagged Edges. I think he pretty much got exactly what he wanted a rough and ready album that was not over produced. The whole article is a good read so is the one in Remix Vol. 6 No. 8 August 04.

My opinion- Great Album, I to thought it sounded a little rough at first listen and what not but after reading these articles I now understand where Mr. Howlett was and the sound he was trying to get.

[AvS]

Its what happens when you go to software. Things just don't sound right.

You know he wrote the whole friggen album on reason. Bad idea Liam


Hehe. He WROTE the album in Reason. Not produced. IMO the album sounds superb.

You should all read the article in the SOS magazine.

The album is mixed and processed with the best of the best analog gear. The tracks are mixed on a NEVE desk. He borrowed five (FIVE!) Fairchild compressors!, Manley Massive passive EQ, Culture Vulture distortion and some other higend analog stuff! And to me the synths sound sounds very analog. No way they are Reason synths. Well perhaps some of the distortet/heaveily processed sounds are, but the raw synths sound are definetly analog.

I think what he did is great idea. Writing the album in Reason without thinking about the sound and when make the tracks sound great when they are done.

ps: I dont even like the music - I just like the sound.

[Juho L]

this album is a softsynth showcase...nothing more. Early Prodigy used alot of Moog and Sequential gear for crusty drums and ripping leads and raw bass. Now their stuff sounds restrianed......no amount of plug-in distortion can make up for it.

Hoho. Classic. The analog fan gets confused(tm).

[Timo]

The distortion came from a Thermionic Vulture. ;) 100% analogue.

After reading Howlett's interview before AONO was released, I honestly had high hopes for the album, especially as it's been so long since Fat Of The Land. As the chap said in his interview (http://212.67.202.86/~theprod/bb/viewtopic.php?t=687&sid=aba14b73c4dee9dc5fe60cf6bea269cc), "I realized that just because you shout more and louder on a record doesn't mean people feel you more, so I decided to take the beats back to the street." ...Which I thought, ah, nice one!, so it's not just going down the same direction as "Baby's Got a Temper", kinda thing. Given that, I thought the album might have a little less distortion-thrashing.

So when I got to hear it I was like, wtf?! Wtf have you done! I'm not at all fond of the new album. A lot of it actually is just fatiguing over-distortion and is literally yelling it down your eardrums, contrary to what Liam had implied in the interview, in a way.
There's "punchy", and then there's "blastin-yer-crappin'-ears-off-wi'-a-brickwall-o'-mush"... Always Outnumbered's biased towards the latter.

I quite liked Spitfire, actually that song rocks (especially when processed further with mastering stuff to make it sound even bigger! ), but the rest are pretty unmemorable, at least to me. If anyone other than Prodigy made it, I'd have binned it. Given their history for usually producing damn good music, I gave them the benefit of the doubt and played the album several times to get my head around it, and now it's grown on me as much as it will, I think. - Ie. Not a lot.

Must say I miss the Roland/Jupiter-type analogue strings and the chordal tunes like Climbatize, Skylined, Weather Experience, Narayan, etc., that cropped up at least once in each album, as that was a chilled Prodigy sound that I really, really liked. The 'melodic' stabs/phrases have disappeared, as has the acid 303s (no bad thing really, although Liam always did keep his acid stuff away from sounding like the clich?d commercial sound of trance in the later years. The 303-type phrases in Smack My Bitch Up sounded damn cool, and of course he pioneered it in Experience and MFTJiltedGen - probably unconsciously inspiring and spawning what was to become a future staple and fully raped groovebox concept), but it's probably cut off the original old-skool ravers that have followed Prodigy since the beginning.
The Poison-type tunes, that I reckon may have been the influences that were carried through into FOTL, have vanished, as have the 'clear'-but-still-punchy-as-f*k breakbeats that were so characteristic of The Prodigy. Though Howlett said "He was taking the beats back to the street", whatever that means, the drums still sound a little two-dimensional and flat, even on Spitfire. I liked his production on all the other albums - powerful but still clearly defined - to me AONO just sounds noisy as hell.

The voodoo is missing.

Where's it gone, Liam, man?!

And also, what the 'eck is Gallagher doing on there! I'd prefer the voodoo, any day..

IMHO.

My fav album is still M4TJiltedGeneration closely followed by FatOTL. Although those two swap with each other depending on what mood I'm in.

PS > However, in Prodigy's defence, it's certainly not mainstream, which is probably where they didn't want to be anyway, so I guess he's done good by taking the hardcore fans and his music back underground.

At the end of the day, Liam should make music how he wants, not what his fans want. So if he likes/loves it, then he needs to stick by that, and f*ck to everyone else. Hats off to him.

[AlexHall74]

It will interesting as hell (and difficult!) to listen to this album with unbiased ears after reading all these posts.

In a way I'm glad as I am the type of person who likes to know what to expect in an album, to a degree. That way if you kind of know what's coming and an album still blows your f*@king socks off it must REALLY be a bad-ass album.

Over all, Liam and The Prodigy have given me some pretty sacred memories. I can recall SO many times when we (myself, my girl, my lads) would all be jamming out to FATOL and MFTJG at our own after parties or just a day at the beach...

Ahhh the precious memories of yesteryear!

Even if this one does stink in my book I still think there is hope for a better future release. I have a hard time believing that all the good tunes that man is going to write are out of his system. He's hardly washed up, maybe he just had a few bad day's at the office? :wink:

Thanks for all the cool links/references to articles in this post y'all!

-AlexHall74

[Juho L]

Where's DS? He's probably so embarassed that he won't ever return here again. ?hih.

[Merlot]

Where's DS? He's probably so embarassed that he won't ever return here again. ?hih.

Just had to rubb it in!! :lol:

[Juho L]

Just had to rubb it in!!

I just can't control myself. Hearing software and thinking hearing software are two different things. Muahahahaha!

[Timo]

hehe.

If you're a Sound-On-Sound subscriber, you can read the music-tech lowdown in the recent Howlett/AONO interview [here (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Oct04/articles/prodigy.htm?session=d680b81453223185f9a6ce8c8c228feb)], or you can find it in the Oct 2004 mag. It's quite a good interview, actually! Howlett seems like a really decent bloke.

A sneak peek, to put a few cats among the pigeons, if I may be so very cheeky:

"Turning his back on most of the equipment in his studio, Liam bought a laptop and, after hearing about it through a friend, a copy of Propellerhead's Reason software. He then selected just five pieces of kit from the studio ? a Thermionic Culture Phoenix valve compressor and Culture Vulture distortion unit, a Korg Micro Keyboard, a Manley valve EQ and a 1980s Korg MS20 analogue keyboard."

purrrrr....

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Liam said this....and Liam said that....

Ok sweethearts....tell Screams the artical and he'll put this matter to rest muhahahahah :oops: :lol:

Ive dont my own researching and this is what ive found:

"So, Reason is pretty much the meat of the sound on the new album?

Literally everything you?ll hear on the new album has been written on Reason. Everything starts there. Eventually we get to a stage where the song is written, and then we ? that?s my producer Neil McClennan and I ? move it into ?Tools where we finish off everything, and that works great since Reason integrates with ProTools really well. Everything that comes out of Reason sounds really good, it?s got this sound, I think ? a kind of certain... everything sounds like it ?locks in? really good, you know? And that sound we got out of Reason is something that we now and again had to go back to Reason to duplicate; sometimes we?d do a thing in ProTools and it just didn?t rock it like Reason did, so we?d take it out of ProTools and try to duplicate it in Reason instead.

What are your favorite Reason devices?

That would have to be the drum machine and the Dr. REX. I use the REX player all over the place and I just love the way you can mess around with a loop, and I love the way you can sync the LFO to tempo and route it to the filter, we use that on the album a lot. As for the effects, the Scream 4 unit is just the best thing for the type of music I?m writing. Definitely the high point of version 2.5 for me. The tape distortion is very good for bass, to give it the edge, it?s warm...

What, specifically, don?t you use Reason for?

When it comes to bass sounds, I?m pure analog and I don?t use soft synths for bass at all. There?s just no substitute for analog. Instead, I?ll take an Oberheim, Moog, Korg MS-20 or something, sample a sequence of it playing, rex it up and then bring that back in Reason and lock it in there. I do occasionally use the softsynths to put melodies down ? I?d say maybe 80% of the synths, the top line and high end stuff, is Reason. I can?t as of yet use it for everything ? obviously you can?t record vocals into it ? but ultimately, what Reason does have by way of limitations is also one of its strong points. It forces your imagination to be more on the board, you have to dig it out of your head rather than just going ?well, I just can?t do that in there?. I never saw it that way, I mean if something you want to do is completely off limits then just use another program, no big deal"

So this is where he went wrong? LOL

Only Joking guys......its a good album...im just pulling ur chains heheh

DS :wink:

[Bjorktribe]

I got to say I was impressed when I first popped the disk in. Lot's of energy. And then it got redundant. . . .
Good overall. Very happy to hear from Liam again! Does anyone know when he's releasing the 'Girls' samples?

[XLR8A]

For those who new to music business:
If you see a famous supasta' bitching about how good Reason is, and how
he used it in his last album - he got a free copy of it from Propellerheads
just for saying that in interview, it doesn't really mean that he used it at all.

:!:

[jasedee]

For those who new to music business:
If you see a famous supasta' bitching about how good Reason is, and how
he used it in his last album - he got a free copy of it from Propellerheads
just for saying that in interview, it doesn't really mean that he used it at all.

:!:
You think if he was really saying it only to promote the company, then all he would be getting is one free copy??????

Fuck me, I would want alot more than that! I dont believe it is in his character to sell his soul to some software company. He doesnt need to, financially, and I just dont see him as that type

[XLR8A]

For those who new to music business:
If you see a famous supasta' bitching about how good Reason is, and how
he used it in his last album - he got a free copy of it from Propellerheads
just for saying that in interview, it doesn't really mean that he used it at all.

:!:
You think if he was really saying it only to promote the company, then all he would be getting is one free copy??????
Maybe Liam got a bit more than just one free copy, but i know people who got
all propellerheads software packs just for biggin' up the company in interviews.
It's not "selling the soul" or something negative like that,
it's a regular commercial thing, nothing special.

[ledge]

It's not "selling the soul" or something negative like that,
it's a regular commercial thing, nothing special.

To quote Bill Hicks...

Here's the deal folks, you do a commercial, you're off the artistic
roll call forever. End of story. Ok? You're another corporate fucking
shill. You're another whore at the capitalist gangbang. And if you do
a commercial there is a price on your head, everything you say is
suspect, and every word that comes out of your mouth is now like a
turd falling into my drink.

[XLR8A]

It's not "selling the soul" or something negative like that,
it's a regular commercial thing, nothing special.

To quote Bill Hicks...

Here's the deal folks, you do a commercial, you're off the artistic
roll call forever. End of story. Ok? You're another corporate fucking
shill. You're another whore at the capitalist gangbang. And if you do
a commercial there is a price on your head, everything you say is
suspect, and every word that comes out of your mouth is now like a
turd falling into my drink.

Good one !
Every artist should say it loudly and proudly everytime before doing a commercial :lol:

;)

[Hollowcell]

I think in Liam's case he was not plugging Reason just for the cash. You can hear Reason through out his album - sadly. I really think Reason inspired him to get out a new album and for that he plugged it when it was brought up in interviews. Of course I'm sure he received a few chash bonuses for doing so too though. :wink: In his case however, he obviously used it to the hilt on his latest, which indicates more than just a name drop cash-up scheme.

[Merlot]

[To quote Bill Hicks...

And if you do
a commercial there is a price on your head, everything you say is
suspect, and every word that comes out of your mouth is now like a
turd falling into my drink.


That line has got to be a classic. LMAO :lol:

IMO - Everybody has a price. $$$$$$$

[5inusoid]

For those who new to music business:
If you see a famous supasta' bitching about how good Reason is, and how
he used it in his last album - he got a free copy of it from Propellerheads
just for saying that in interview, it doesn't really mean that he used it at all.

:!:
You think if he was really saying it only to promote the company, then all he would be getting is one free copy??????
Maybe Liam got a bit more than just one free copy, but i know people who got
all propellerheads software packs just for biggin' up the company in interviews.
It's not "selling the soul" or something negative like that,
it's a regular commercial thing, nothing special.

Liam is a MILLIONAIRE. The whole Propellerhead package costs what? $1000? How much money do you think they could give him? Props are not a rich company. Liam had MADONNA asking him to produce her album. I think you're reaching for it here. Lots of artists talk about the gear they use in interviews.

[5inusoid]

Hey - if we want to talk about sell-out MF's lets talk about BT. Is there any product that jackass doesn't endorse???

[XLR8A]

For those who new to music business:
If you see a famous supasta' bitching about how good Reason is, and how
he used it in his last album - he got a free copy of it from Propellerheads
just for saying that in interview, it doesn't really mean that he used it at all.

:!:
You think if he was really saying it only to promote the company, then all he would be getting is one free copy??????
Maybe Liam got a bit more than just one free copy, but i know people who got
all propellerheads software packs just for biggin' up the company in interviews.
It's not "selling the soul" or something negative like that,
it's a regular commercial thing, nothing special.

Liam is a MILLIONAIRE. The whole Propellerhead package costs what? $1000? How much money do you think they could give him? Props are not a rich company. Liam had MADONNA asking him to produce her album. I think you're reaching for it here. Lots of artists talk about the gear they use in interviews.
So, did Liam produced the album for Madonna ?
I don't think so, but William Orbit did produced for Madonna, and i'm shure
he's not as millionaire as Liam. A celebrity millionaire will NEVER advertize
someone elses product for free, and innocent interview it is a commercial ad...

[5inusoid]

So, did Liam produced the album for Madonna ?
I don't think so, but William Orbit did produced for Madonna, and i'm shure
he's not as millionaire as Liam. A celebrity millionaire will NEVER advertize
someone elses product for free, and innocent interview it is a commercial ad...

Hey buddy-

I'm not sure what you're trying to say 'cause your english is terrible, but no - Liam refused to do the Madonna album. Which says even more about him NOT being a sell-out. And I'm not even a Prodigy fan. Trust me, I'm not naive when it comes to the music business - I just think that you're being paranoid when you think he was "employed" by Propellerheads to advertise Reason. He took 5 years to make another Prodigy record (he obviously didn't need the money) and how much money do you think the Props had to "buy" a celebrity with? You think Propellerheads needed to advertise in the music community? Everyobody knows what Reason is (and I'm sure everyone has used it, cracked copy or not). And did I think he get Reason for free? FUCK YEAH HE DID!!! You know how many music celebs probably got it for free??? You want to talk about a process being around for years - how many guitars do you think Fender or Gibson gave out to rock stars? How many synths did Bob Moog give away (I know Rick Wakeman had a deal with him)? My point is - do you think a millionaire level musician would just give away all this free publicity for a $1000 software package? They'd have to give him plenty of dough. And why would they pick Liam for publicity? He's not exactly huge in the public eye right now. Why not buy Pharrel or someone who all the kids know right now (those kids being the ones with the most disposable income)? I think you're being paranoid. He just liked the product and used it, and wanted to talk about it in print.

[Gopal]

I agree Sinusoid

I just hope Liam manages to wedge the door open and gets back in the real studio before he tries to write the next album. :)

[XLR8A]

5inusoid,
I don't know what was the deal between Prodigy and Propellerheads, and it's
not my business, but without any deal Liam wasn't saying that he used Reason,
and what you said in your previous post - can be said about BT and everyone else.
I'm not being paranoid, it's just not my first day in the music business and i
know how things work those days. For a producer, the act of saying on the media
about refusing to produce Madonna's album - it's a huge advertizement that
bumps up album sales, otherway we never knew about his story with Madonna.

p.s. sorry for my broken english.

[Merlot]

Hey - if we want to talk about sell-out MF's lets talk about BT. Is there any product that jackass doesn't endorse???

I like some of BT's music, but yes he defenitely endorses every product under the sun. Flip through an EQ magazine or any music magaziine for that matter and you will see a picture of him with a praise quote right next to it.

[XLR8A]

http://www.propellerheads.se/news/articles/index.cfm?fuseaction=get_article&article=prodigy

:wink:

[5inusoid]

Yes, this article was already quoted in this thread. Are you linking it here to try and say Propellerhead has an interview with him on their website - so this proves they paid him a million dollars?

[XLR8A]

Are you linking it here to try and say Propellerhead has an interview with him on their website - so this proves they paid him a million dollars?
No, they probably paid him a hundred million bucks, and bankroted two weeks later.

[The Silver Freakbox]

As an Oldschool fan of The Prodigy sound, i,like many other big fans were disturbed by Liam's new album. It's ok, in such way that's its a new album.but remember that Liam created THE oldschool sound back in the day, and everytime he made something fresh that inspired a lot of musicians. nowadays a lot of different sounds are made and it's terribly difficult to come with something fresh. well.. he did it in some kind of way, but still the old stuff is indeed nostalgic. BUT, i went to a Prodigy gig in the Heinenken Music Hall in Amsterdam. and i guess that turned my view of the new album. it were really breathtaking to see those guys on stage. even more to HEAR there new album live(allright semi-live). it was totally different,with many unheard material and different mixes of there latest songs. and i guess that evening in december made me relive the prodigy feeling in a new,but less fresh way.

and don't forget those folks are in there 30s! there not as flexible and die-hard as they used to be.

[5inusoid]

and don't forget those folks are in there 30s! there not as flexible and die-hard as they used to be.

Whoa there, dog. So if you're in your 30's you're no longer flexible and diehard??

[jasedee]

and don't forget those folks are in there 30s! there not as flexible and die-hard as they used to be.

Whoa there, dog. So if you're in your 30's you're no longer flexible and diehard??
No...but maybe your priorities are a little different?

In your 20's maybe you are thinking about getting fucked up and making mind blowing music, but in your 30's, maybe you are thinking about making some money to provide for your family??? Which might just tame you down a bit, and you might think about making music that is slightly more accessible to the majority...

Just a few ideas....

[Gopal]

I totally agree with your comments Jasedee, but I would just say that this new album from Prodigy is less accessable to the masses than anything they've ever done as its just experimental codshite in my personal opinion.

Also, the fact that their concert here next week has been cancelled due to low ticket sales says a bit about the new album.

[jasedee]

I totally agree with your comments Jasedee, but I would just say that this new album from Prodigy is less accessable to the masses than anything they've ever done as its just experimental codshite in my personal opinion.
I dont know about experimental......

The album has feature vocalists, doing poppy distorted hooks, a more "trendy" nu-skool breaks feel, and probably not quite as specialized, in which I mean it has a more commercial, less edgy "feel" than other prodigy albums.

Also, the fact that their concert here next week has been cancelled due to low ticket sales says a bit about the new album.
Dude...you're in New Zealand! This means nothing. If they were to play Sydney they would have no trouble packing out a show.

I imagine New Zealand to be a pretty small market, and it doesnt surprise me the show didnt sell out.

[Gopal]

Dude, every other time they have played here they have sold out and sometimes even added an extra show because of such high demand.

You would be suprised how big the market is over here.

[jasedee]

Dude, every other time they have played here they have sold out and sometimes even added an extra show because of such high demand.

You would be suprised how big the market is over here.
Yeah....I guess I shouldnt really comment as I dont know too much about NZ. I was just kinda acting on assumptions.

Who knows why.....maybe the new Prodigy stuff isnt played on MTV/Channel V enough.....

[Gopal]

Who knows why.....maybe the new Prodigy stuff isnt played on MTV/Channel V enough.....

I think you've probably hit the nail on the head there dude.

The question is, if the new album is full of poppy vocals...why is it getting less radio play and mtv play then Breathe, Firestarter and Smack my Bitch up did when they came out?

Personally, I think its cause its crap and the people at mtv know that it won't sell.

[jasedee]

Personally, I think its cause its crap and the people at mtv know that it won't sell.
Oooh....watch out there. Selling units and "good" music is a sticky issue. Britney Spears sells.....what do you think of her music?

[Gopal]

Maybe I should have seperated those two points a bit more :P

I just find it curious that the stuff they put out on the last album that was considered very underground and punk at the time got lots of radio play.

I think thats where they've gone wrong. If someone more mainstream had released this new album it might be huge, but its just not pushing any boundaries and I think thats what people have come to expect from Prodigy

[jasedee]

I think thats where they've gone wrong. If someone more mainstream had released this new album it might be huge, but its just not pushing any boundaries and I think thats what people have come to expect from Prodigy
Yeah....I think I may have to agree with that.....I enjoyed the album, but wont have as much impact as "The Experience" did in my life