ITS OFFICIAL....NEW VIRUS TI

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Goto Access website...the rumours were true!!!!!

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1773

www.access-music.de

DS

[ipaqlinux48]

we are currently updating this site. please check back later

I can't wait.

[jasedee]

the rumours were true!!!!!
You mean there really is a monkey that comes with the new Virus????? ;)

[Hollowcell]

the rumours were true!!!!!
You mean there really is a monkey that comes with the new Virus????? ;)

Hehehehe! I'd forgoten about that thread.

Yep, it definitely looks like there will be a new machine amongst us. Can't wait to hear the wavetable OSCs - please tell me they will be in an OS update for the C series!

[Drammy]

For those wanting to read up on the new TI you can access the pages
by clicking here (http://www.access-music.de/events/11-2004/virusti_details_keyboard.php4)

I think they are just altering the front page to the Access.de website - the other pages work fine.

Martyn

[the_bod]

i heard somewhere that it was supposed to have mlan support too?

i doubt there will be an update for the c's tho, most of the changes look hardware specific...

delay an reverb on each channel tho.. any1 want to buy an indigo 2? :P

[Drammy]

Another good page on it is here (http://www.access-music.de/events/11-2004/virusti_basics_polar.php4)

[Juho L]

Aaaargh! I want one right away! Time to go to fill a lottery ticket I suppose. ?hih.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

OMG im creaming over the specs......

Looks like the price is going to be around ?1650 for the 61 note keyboard version. This will probably be the only VA/wavetable you'd ever need!

DS

[Timo]

:D

[hatembr]

8O

[monads]

I want the white one :D

[Onkel Dunkel]

Danm, i?ve only had my (brand new) Virus C for a couple of months and then this turns up :evil: Please can i have my money back and get the TI instead :cry:

[aster]

Finally my patience has paid off ! I was waiting for a new release. It looks like I may need to save a bit more for this one !

[monads]

Does anyone know if the new line is compatable with our Virus C patches?

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Im relieved I sold my KC when I did......

Im definitely buying the Ti 61 key......then im going to pollute the forum with hypersaw mayhem and wavetable goodness.

Maybe someone could clarify for me...the wavetable section. Are the wavetable waveforms static or are they infinitely variable?

80 note poly weeee.......I'll be able to make BIG MOOG UNISON PADS WITH THAT SON OF A BITCH!!!!

DS

[marc]

Does anyone know if the new line is compatable with our Virus C patches?

yes, it will be.

marc

[Juho L]

Maybe someone could clarify for me...the wavetable section. Are the wavetable waveforms static or are they infinitely variable?

Not sure about infinitely varialbe, but they seemt o be sweepable.

80 note poly weeee.......I'll be able to make BIG MOOG UNISON PADS WITH THAT SON OF A BITCH!!!!

Yup. And good bye annoying mixdowns... I want one...

[tek_]

Damn this is interesting..a digital output ,so If I connect it to my delta 1010 digital-in there will be no noizy recordings?! I should have waited 5 months longer,paid the same amount of Euro's for the C , as it is now sold as TI :x ..anyone wants a C in mint condition ?? 8O no joking ,maybe I'll sell it but lets think about it first :roll:

[monads]

Does anyone know if the new line is compatable with our Virus C patches?

yes, it will be.

marc

Thanks marc. That's totally cool. I know the Virus B patches were compatable with the C series, some did sound different though, so I was concerned as the line evolved about our C created patches.

It's hard to resist this baby. One thing I like on the C series is the layout of the Mod Matix. On the Ti line, this appears to have been abandoned in favor of using just the "Assign", each with 3 selectable destinations. Yes, it's bigger but I have to dive through menues to select (as opposed to just having some there for quick access i.e OSC 1, Filter 1, etc). I guess it should be easier with the integrated software.

[Tomer=Trance]

i didnt see any wavetable osc\s in the specs.

[Juho L]

i didnt see any wavetable osc\s in the specs.

Wavetable oscillators

In addition to the award winning VIRUS oscillators the VIRUS TI series introduces Wavetable oscillators. These sophisticated new oscillators put a completely new array of sounds at your disposal. From gritty, screaming, somewhat LoFi sounding textures to silky-smooth wave cascades - the sky is the limit. Now imagine processing the WaveTable with Access? self-resonating MiniMoog? Filter...
A mixture between VIRUS oscillators and WaveTable oscillators is also possible.

[Sunesha]

Congrats to access, beutiful thinking.. This surely smart..

And congrats to that you get my money now..

Cheers,
Daniel

[Tomer=Trance]

yes tabletop
i must have missed it. 8O :D

[the_bod]

After going back and looking at the specs a few times, Im starting to think about selling my indigo 2 now!!
i mean 1800 simultaneous oscillators :twisted: :twisted:

One thing im confused about though, when its being run in a VST shell and using the audio it says it has a 4 channel audio bus.
Can it provide 2 stereo outs then? And is that over usb and spdif at the same time?

And if it is using USB for audio, there must be pc/mac audio drivers for it?

any1 want a second hand mint condition indigo 2 by the way? :D

[Juho L]

any1 want a second hand mint condition indigo 2 by the way? :D

Hoho. I think I know what happens: Everybody ask the same and no-one wants to buy -> Viruses and other VA's are sold really cheap.

[blay]

As this is a day for new releases i thought id become a new member.
hey freaks :wink: im pete
been a virus lover and user for quite some time - just never got around to buying one. looks like now is the time :twisted:

looking forward to sharing info with everyone and generally contributing positively to my new favourite forum......

:D

[blay]

amazingly enough that newborn avatar looks just like me - only he has more hair :wink:

[Timo]

Virus TI Polar vs. Centrino 2 laptop.

....Hmm ... Damn!

[scratches head]

[the_bod]

any1 want a second hand mint condition indigo 2 by the way? :D

Hoho. I think I know what happens: Everybody ask the same and no-one wants to buy -> Viruses and other VA's are sold really cheap.

nah, im not selling. the indigo does what i need it to do.
I'm about to buy an omega 8 and unless the sound engine of the TI's are radically different and better compared to the indigo, i cant justify it.

Is there enough there soundwise to make people upgrade from the c series?

i didnt see any demos on the access site, has anyone heard it?

[Juho L]

Is there enough there soundwise to make people upgrade from the c series?

I think the major point is the ease of use. Total VST integration, huge polyphony... It's a dream come true for studio people. Of course it has very nice sound enchancements like that wavetable and insane hypersaw. This isn't the same kind of tiny update like C was to B. This is something totally different and brilliant.

And by the way look for some vintage analogs instead of that Omega8. You save money and probably get better sounds and the smell of vintage circuits. ?hih.

[Tom_1970]

I'm impressed by the new Virus series, but I still haven't reached the bottom of my Virus C after 2 years (far from).
So I don't think there is a point for me in selling my C and buying a TI wich has a bottom that's on a deeper level than the C.

My Virus still is the same great VA synth at this time as it was 2 years ago.

[Hollowcell]

Yep, these things look very nice indeed!

The VSTi intergration doesn't appeal much, but the new OSCs and the voice expansion do.

It's definitely infront of anything else spec wise (as far as the hardware specs go). This thing will plug into anything it seems.

Nice work Access.

I'm know you guys have many other things happening at the moment with the new series, but I'm sure many people have this question on their lips. So....What's happening with the OS updates with the C series?

[jasedee]

As this is a day for new releases i thought id become a new member.
hey freaks :wink: im pete
been a virus lover and user for quite some time - just never got around to buying one. looks like now is the time :twisted:
~Welcome to Planet Virus~

Nice to have another Aussie join the forum! We will run this place soon and boot out these Euro freaks ;) hehehehe...... :lol:

[Drammy]

Damn this is interesting..a digital output ,so If I connect it to my delta 1010 digital-in there will be no noizy recordings?! I should have waited 5 months longer,paid the same amount of Euro's for the C , as it is now sold as TI :x ..anyone wants a C in mint condition ?? 8O no joking ,maybe I'll sell it but lets think about it first :roll:

Thats correct but you can also connect via USB2 and take the audio straight into the PC / Mac. This is the Total Integration or TI.

This means that there will be no noise whatsoever apart from that created by the Virus engine.

So what happens is you connect your Virus and comp via USB2 and then open up the Virus as a VSTi or AU in your software sequencer - I guess you are using one if you are recording into a 1010 anyway. Say you use Cubase you will then see the Audio outputs from the Virus in your Cubase mixer as VST instruments (and are also editable as VST instruments). Not only does the output go straight into your PC but the PC / Mac master out gets rerouted to the Virus Outputs, meaning you can make use of the high quality 192 KHz D/A convertors to go straight into your amp!

Absolutely fantastic technology!

Apologies if you already understood this - I am just very excited!


Ta,

Martyn

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Yep, these things look very nice indeed!

The VSTi intergration doesn't appeal much, but the new OSCs and the voice expansion do.

It's definitely infront of anything else spec wise (as far as the hardware specs go). This thing will plug into anything it seems.

Nice work Access.

I'm know you guys have many other things happening at the moment with the new series, but I'm sure many people have this question on their lips. So....What's happening with the OS updates with the C series?

To be honest HC, I woudltn expect any more OS updates for the C. The reason being is that there are practicaly no bugs and probably very little spare processing power. Hence the reason why the TI is so DSP powerful....maybe it gives Access more room to breath with future updates. Anyhow the C has already had like 3 major updates......

Just a point to note for everyone who already has Virus'. Dont go out and sell....its a mental thing to do. What you've got is already good enough. If you can afford the TI well that great! But if not dont worry about it....

*Just as a little side note.....Access is the only manufacturer of synths that can get away with a price hike and still sell a bucket load. Now that says something!

If any of the guys at access are reading this...would it be possible to hear a demo of the Hypersaw and wavetable oscilators? Cheers

DS

[Tomer=Trance]

accualy i think people would prefer easy of use over more features...

[marc]

accualy i think people would prefer easy of use over more features...

i think so as well. that's why there is a much bigger display. for the first time, the virus TI does display more than one parameter on the same page and with three soft knobs under the display (and therefore three parameters per page) it's so much easier to edit a sound. on top of that, 4 rows in Y axis allow the TI to display loads of "status" related information independently to the rest of the page. next, the new FX section shows the status of every single FX per patch and you can directly edit the EQ. there is a SHIFT button and all the SHIFT functions are labelled. IMO the mod matrix section is much easier to use. you see, there is much more to the TI than what you can read in the specs right now

best, marc

[Smag]

With regard to new updates on the existing VC, I would have liked to have seen more digital waves added, or even the ability to create your own waves and load them into the C like with the Microwave XT. Not sure if this is possible but I'm no great techie.

[tek_]

Thanks for clearing martynreid now I understand, it is exiting and looking at my C now .. , it is still exiting :lol: why don't Access give C users a programmable arp if the unit alows the update for that ofcourse :?

[Timo]

Even the VirusB got a new upgrade come O.S. v6.5 for the C, in the form of PureTuning.

[marc]

Thanks for clearing martynreid now I understand, it is exiting and looking at my C now .. , it is still exiting :lol: why don't Access give C users a programmable arp if the unit alows the update for that ofcourse :?

because as with new osc waves which were brought up as a possible update before it requires memory which does not exist in the C series.

best, marc

[blay]

jasedee slowly but surely through generations of inbreeding australians have indeed evolved into the master piss drinking bogans that we are.
you just cant compete with a gene pool this small :wink:

[WorkHard]

What about the TI line? Will there be lots of extra memory there? :?

[ben crosland]

What about the TI line? Will there be lots of extra memory there? :?

To be honest, I think it is a mistake to base a purchase decision on speculation about future upgrades that may or may not happen.

[WorkHard]

What about the TI line? Will there be lots of extra memory there? :?

To be honest, I think it is a mistake to base a purchase decision on speculation about future upgrades that may or may not happen.

and what about the personal computer???

But maybe you mean synthesizer right?

Knowing if there were future upgrades instore may be an incentive for some to buy though ;)

[Sunesha]

I use my old virus b tabletop as fx box sometimes. Is the new virus vsti interface possible to easy use normal fx plugin. Because as for the moment sx3 is limited to only use one external fx. I always liked the distoration and some other things. So I dare to ask if it is possible. Because then surely will buy one soon. Otherwise I wish this for the future;) I am quite tired today so may be dreaming alot.

Btw bought a real mooger fooger filter instead of upgrade to c, hehe.

I would be nice for a 3-4 years grazeperiod. I am wiling to dare to send my old virus to germany for a exchange. I have the serial number and the box left ;)

[Sunesha]

Ok I try to get a answer from some smarter one then me, is it possible to use the Virus Vsti plugin as FX plugin in a audiohost..

Because that would be cool

[ben crosland]

Ok I try to get a answer from some smarter one then me, is it possible to use the Virus Vsti plugin as FX plugin in a audiohost..

Because that would be cool

From what I understand - the plugin itself is just a controller and librarian, kinda like sounddiver on steroids.

I imagine the Total Integration thingy will allow for the routing of audio tracks through the Virus' filters and fx, yes. Just don't quote me on it ;)

[Sunesha]

Ok I try to get a answer from some smarter one then me, is it possible to use the Virus Vsti plugin as FX plugin in a audiohost..

Because that would be cool

From what I understand - the plugin itself is just a controller and librarian, kinda like sounddiver on steroids.

I imagine the Total Integration thingy will allow for the routing of audio tracks through the Virus' filters and fx, yes. Just don't quote me on it ;)Ah I see, I am bit confused about the audiointerface part on usb. So believed that maybe it could stream some audio.

Also understand like sounddiver but as plugin instead.

Otherwise it would be easy thing to do it anyway, just use the fx directly from screen..

Guess I will have to wait *sigh

Thanks ben

[3o3]

You mean there really is a monkey that comes with the new Virus

Oh my Buddah! It's a dream come true then!

Is it possible to buy a case for the monkeys?

Nah, really the new virus is looking awesome - Even if i'd like to have one, the price of Virus C is getting really low in Sweden now.

"Virus C in mint condition + rackkit = 6500:- SEK" which is
703 Euro/905 US/96.239 Yen.

[Timo]

Interesting flowchart regards the Virus TIs integration with computers:-

http://www.gearjunkies.com/product_gallery.php?id=2277

[zooloo]

hey timo :)

that flow chart is from Access' website

here (http://www.access-music.de/events/11-2004/virusti_details_control.php4?product=virustidesktop) with a bit of blurb about the TI aspect too...

z.

[ten]

pre-ordered my TI from digi village today, should arrive in 3/4 weeks with first UK shipment (so ive been told) cant bloody wait :)

Anyone who wants the virus powercore for cheap, im selling mine on for ?199, cost ?330 new so grab a bargin. pm if interested - will post worldwide

ten

[ten]

I read this comment from Marc Schlaile on another forum.

'let me clarify one important thing: the virus TI has a USB2 compatible USB interface with the speed of USB1.1 (which to my knowledge is 12mbit). the copy on our website and press release is the official recommendation from the usb.org but I get the feeling that it's being misunderstood.

there scenario outlined on the access website is _one_ of many possible configurations. to my knowledge, there is ways to offer more than 2 stereo channels and we understand that depending on the situation this makes a lot of sense.

the same goes for the possibility of sending data into the virus' sound engine, process it and send it back again.

please understand that I cannot answer all these questions right now. at the same time, postings lining out which configurations are being desired will help us to put the final touch on the TI software.'


If youre reading this Marc, you mention you would like feedback from people about what configurations they would want the TI to have. I think the most demanded will be to have all 16 stereo chans over usb each with thier own individual mixer output in the host application. I dont know if thats possible with usb 1.1 speed and I could get by with just the 2 chans but 4/6/8 or if all 16 is possible would make the TI amazing.

Theres my configuration request :)

ten

[blay]

that sounds good to me too :wink:

[Blank]

Dude you need to read the specs...this has alteast enough for me to upgrade...i just wish i had the cash...maybe when i get my tax return :lol:

peace
Blank

[ben crosland]

I think the most demanded will be to have all 16 stereo chans over usb each with thier own individual mixer output in the host application. I dont know if thats possible with usb 1.1 speed and I could get by with just the 2 chans but 4/6/8 or if all 16 is possible would make the TI amazing.


The hardware outputs only provide 3 stereo outs, remember, not 16 stereo outs! I expect you will be able to route all 16 multi parts through the usb audio, but that it will be via 2 stereo busses..

-=BC

[ten]

Thats my point ben. 2 stereo bus (which i take to mean 2 mixer chans in the host app) is not a lot. If the config 'can' be changed I would want each part of the 16 to have its own stereo chan and mixer chan in the host app across the usb, so this would mean 16 stereo bus's instead of 2 I belive? And wouldnt have to even bother with the normal analog outs or spdif.

ten[/u]

[marc]

Thats my point ben. 2 stereo bus (which i take to mean 2 mixer chans in the host app) is not a lot. If the config 'can' be changed I would want each part of the 16 to have its own stereo chan and mixer chan in the host app across the usb, so this would mean 16 stereo bus's instead of 2 I belive? And wouldnt have to even bother with the normal analog outs or spdif.

ten[/u]

16 discreet stereo channels are not possible. unfortunately. the limit (to my knowledge) is 4 (or 8 mono) and of course you still will have the 3 stereo analog outs. so the outcome in any scenario is better than with the virus A-B-C series.

best, marc

(Edited -)

[ten]

That would be extremely cool, marc. 6 stereo chans over usb would be fantastically better than 2 and if you can make it so im sure a lot of TI users would be very very happy :)

ten

[blay]

so the outcome in any scenario is better than with the virus A-B-C series.


well we'd kind of hope so :wink:

6 stereo outs via usb would be just dandy :wink:

[marc]

That would be extremely cool, marc. 6 stereo chans over usb would be fantastically better than 2 and if you can make it so im sure a lot of TI users would be very very happy :)

ten

in fact it is 4 stereo channels, not 6 (sorry about that). 4 is exactly what you have in terms out hardware ins and outs as well. i think 4 is more than OK - i never ran into a situation with my KC where is _really_ needed more and with the TIs 16 delays and reverbs this chance is even smaller now

marc

[blay]

in fact it is 4 stereo channels, not 6 (sorry about that). 4 is exactly what you have in terms out hardware ins and outs as well. i think 4 is more than OK - i never ran into a situation with my KC where is _really_ needed more and with the TIs 16 delays and reverbs this chance is even smaller now


no complaints here so far marc... besides the fact it hasnt arrived yet :wink:

[ten]

marc, sounds good.....does that mean its gonna ship with with the option of having 4 stereo bus's over usb or are you just saying it is possible to have 4 but its not implemented? :lol: and yes I would be ecstatic with 4 stereo chans over usb, shouldnt need anymore!

thanks for all the info btw, its great to have you access guys on here.

ten

[grs]

Thats my point ben. 2 stereo bus (which i take to mean 2 mixer chans in the host app) is not a lot. If the config 'can' be changed I would want each part of the 16 to have its own stereo chan and mixer chan in the host app across the usb, so this would mean 16 stereo bus's instead of 2 I belive? And wouldnt have to even bother with the normal analog outs or spdif.

ten[/u]

The 16 parts mixed inside your sequencer via a theoretical usb2 link would sound just the same as they would be mixing in your viurs. You probaly desire the 'vst plugin' per part. I wouldn't dream of loosing the analog outs, I say give us at least 2 more (4 stereo) and while your there make the drivers access all of them, not just 2 (1 stereo buss). There are those of us who prefer 'real hardware plugins' than vst ones.

*edit* On the other hand, if all parts were avaliable in your sequencer, you could buy extra/better hardware outs and like you say, have no dependancy on the virus outs.

[ten]

Oh dont get me wrong, I didnt mean get rid of the analog outs I just meant you wouldnt have to use them (or I wouldnt :)

Personally Id prefer to do it all over usb instead of combining the usb chans with the analog chans, thats why id love to see a couple more over usb but I also appreciate lots of other people are happy with the classic way of doing things.

I sold my virus powercore to get the TI and I guess im spoilt with the ease of use of soft synths now, I sold my an1x and jp8080 to get the virus powercore because I couldnt stand midi and recording audio tracks from external synths, every sound needing recording over and over because they only have one output etc. Everything is done in the final mixdown with softies, just fire up several instances and having all your settings saved etc was great, no messy sysex pish :) And thats the reason id love them to squeeze a couple more over usb for this ease of use. And im sure a lot of people like me who were bought up with software only feel the same about this, and so the TI would appeal to a wider audience and thus sell access more synths ;)

ten

[dries]

- 80+ voices
- VST-instrument
- prog. arp
- real multimode with 16 diff. D/R
- wavetabel osc
- etc. etc.

this is a killer synth.

[blay]

And thats the reason id love them to squeeze a couple more over usb for this ease of use. And im sure a lot of people like me who were bought up with software only feel the same about this

yeah i tend to agree on this one.
im really impressed with the idea of all patch parameters being saved within the song.... anything that speeds up workflow is a big positive for me.

but im certainly not too worried if i have to use both the analog and usb outs to get what i need :wink:

[tranzash]

How many osc can we use at same time? Is it like 3osc and sub or 5osc and sub? 5osc(3 viri osc+hypersaw+wave table) :?

[grs]

I'm just guessing but I think the hypersaw and the wavetable osc will be available as a choice in OSC1 or OSC2.