WTF? Preorder price jumps $300 in US?

[mcoyote]

I pre-orderd my desktop TI unit a few days ago for approx. $1600. As of, what -- yesterday? -- the prices at places like sweetwater, samedaymusic, etc. have all jumped to $1900 (more or less). What do you supposed happend, and why did they all jump at once?

(...I hope the vendor honors my preorder price...)

[blay]

if you placed a deposit and agreed upon a price then they must honour their quote. (or never do business with them again!)

im sure if you contact these suppliers the units will still be avail at the original price - they are just trying to sucker a little bit more money out of us (because they can).

also - if they display a high price it makes them look like good guys when they drop a couple of hundred off (when really the discount takes the price back to the orig quote!)

[Hollowcell]

First off, welcome to the forum! :D

I agree with Blay. If you pre-ordered at a price and they suddenly decide to up the price that isn't not good business at all.

Not sure what happened with the price jumps though. Maybe they have had more interest than they anticipated.

[blay]

Maybe they have had more interest than they anticipated.

hmm didnt really consider the possibility that there are only so many units available in the inaugarul shipment.....

i wonder just how many access have made of each model for initial release?

[jasedee]

i wonder just how many access have made of each model for initial release?
I reckon Access are pretty switched on, and would have prepared sufficiently for all of the interest.....

Heck, there has been alot of hype and conspiracies (Mainly originating from HC) going on about a new Access for some time now.....They know they got us practically willing to sell our own mothers for this synth

[Hollowcell]

Heck, there has been alot of hype and conspiracies (Mainly originating from HC) going on about a new Access for some time now.....

I'm a little choked up from your kind words Jase, but I'm not entirely sure what you mean...... :D

http://home.ripway.com/2004-1/51095/Virus-P.JPG

[3o3]

Welcome!

Ahh, I love the look of psychadelic backgrounds in the morning

[blay]

wheres my fucking sunglasses 8)
thought i had teleported back to the northcoast for a second there...
love your work HC :lol:

[3o3]

love your work HC

GrOOoVyyY, man! - hey duuude.

[blay]

GrOOoVyyY, man! - hey duuude.

is this some kind of cool swede spek that i havent heard before? :wink:

[3o3]

is this some kind of cool swede spek that i havent heard before?

For sure! -

You know, we swedes do enjoy our casual look on sex and polar bears on the streets.

Nah, but i wouldnt be suprised to see one now, since the weather has been really cold around here now and snowing like hell aswell (not hell then - choose a more proper word for that) ->

My tree on the backside of this apartment cracked last night because of all the snow - so i gotta remove that (just because i wanna go totally off topic)

[blay]

You know, we swedes do enjoy our casual look on sex and polar bears on the streets.

:lol:

i too appreciate the swedes casual approach to sex :wink:

how is that pet polar bear of yours? is he still playing with that koala i gave him?

[3o3]

i too appreciate the swedes casual approach to sex

Bwahaha - Sex is great

how is that pet polar bear of yours?

He's just great..! Abit hungry thou

is he still playing with that koala i gave him?

Damnit i want a koala - but aren't those really crazy really? like massive claws or something like that (yeah yeah, laugh at the swede now.. go on) hehe

[blay]

koalas are nocturnal and they hunt in packs.
beware.
:twisted:

[3o3]

koalas are nocturnal and they hunt in packs.
beware.

Exactly like me then..

Speaking of which, i remember when i was younger and tried to steal a monkey from Skansen (a Zoo located in the middle of Stockholm). Those small monkeys that are in the size of a thumb.

I'd like to have my own zoo (don't get any ideas)

[Juho L]

koalas are nocturnal and they hunt in packs.
beware.

Sounds devious.

[blay]

Sounds devious.

you really have to be wary of wild animals with raptor-like mentalities

[mcoyote]

From: orders@samedaymusic.com
Subject: RE: Re: Order *** (backordered Virus TI synth)

Hi,

Thanks for shopping Samedaymusic!

Yes, we want to assure you, since you placed your order (***) at
the $1600.00 price for the Access Virus TI Desktop Integrated Modeling
Synth (New), that is what we will charge you when we get this
backordered item in stock, $1600.00.

Hope this was helpful for you,
Samedaymusic Orders

8)

Ok, and KOALAS? Say hello to my 'lil friend:

http://www.gunfactory.ch/faustfw/images/sw627_8shot_large.jpg

...and his 'lil helper:

http://www.geocities.com/russian_night_vision/IMAGES/dipol_2mv_a.jpg

...stinkin' fuzzy bastiges.

[Juho L]

http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/STmonster_1103J.jpg

That's a gun against ferocious koalas. Smith & Wesson 500, the biggest magnum handgun ever.

[blay]

:lol:

one will grab your attention, while three come round behind....

and believe me they too will come armed :wink:

[blay]

you guys might be interested in this >link< (http://www.petsorfood.com/exotics.shtml#koala)

:wink:

[3o3]

What is that of a sick page?

[blay]

mate im sure there would be a lot of scientists that would jump at the opportunity to purchase a Dodo bird for $17,000 :lol: :lol: :lol:

(i think supply is getting low so get in quick!) :wink:

[Hollowcell]

From: orders@samedaymusic.com
Subject: RE: Re: Order *** (backordered Virus TI synth)

Hi,

Thanks for shopping Samedaymusic!

Yes, we want to assure you, since you placed your order (***) at
the $1600.00 price for the Access Virus TI Desktop Integrated Modeling
Synth (New), that is what we will charge you when we get this
backordered item in stock, $1600.00.

Hope this was helpful for you,
Samedaymusic Orders



Nice news!

[blay]

Nice news!

i suppose they 'forgot' to tell you that the first units wont be arriving till january (i had this confirmed by the guys at american musical) :evil:

[ten]

Digital village and turnkey in the UK are saying 2nd week of dec for thier first
shipment :D

Lovely jubbly :) (access dont let me down!!! christmas wont be christmas without my TI to play to my relatives around the fire :)

ten

[blay]

Digital village and turnkey in the UK are saying 2nd week of dec for thier first
shipment :D


id like to hear what the guys at access have to say about that. :wink:

so you think youll have one within three weeks?
i think i might have to take bets on this one....

i'll bet two bucks that they dont arrive till january. anyone want to bet against me? 8O

[Panopticon]

they're still $1595.00 at www.novamusik.com for anyone concerned....

[ten]

id like to hear what the guys at access have to say about that. :wink:

so you think youll have one within three weeks?
i think i might have to take bets on this one....

i'll bet two bucks that they dont arrive till january. anyone want to bet against me? 8O

Ill take you up on that :) I recon west europe will get the first TI shipment and all the other peon countries like usa, oz etc ;) will get it in jan.....maybe feb he he :lol:

ten

[blay]

[quote=blay]Ill take you up on that :)

i like a betting man.
as long as they have paypal :wink:

lets just say im quietly confident....

to make it fair i'll give you a tip - even the manual for the thing hasnt been written, and quite possibly the OS remains uncompleted (both these statements could be heresay - would you take info from a man you are betting against - let alone an aussie gambler? :wink: ). still wanna bet?

[ten]

Sure thing....whats 2 bucks eh....i know its 3 weeks work in oz but its a fart in a can over here ;)

ten

[blay]

Sure thing....whats 2 bucks eh....i know its 3 weeks work in oz but its a fart in a can over here ;)

ten

ive never actually seen 'dollars' before - our main currency here in melbourne is kangaroo testicles (if you win you can keep the change my friend) :wink:

[mcoyote]

id like to hear what the guys at access have to say about that. :wink:

so you think youll have one within three weeks?
i think i might have to take bets on this one....

i'll bet two bucks that they dont arrive till january. anyone want to bet against me? 8O

Ill take you up on that :) I recon west europe will get the first TI shipment and all the other peon countries like usa, oz etc ;) will get it in jan.....maybe feb he he :lol:

ten

Rats...I generated a temporary credit card number for this purchase that expires in four months -- I hope I don't forget to call them if it takes that long 8O .

[jasedee]

Rats...I generated a temporary credit card number for this purchase that expires in four months -- I hope I don't forget to call them if it takes that long 8O .
????

[blay]

Rats...I generated a temporary credit card number for this purchase that expires in four months -- I hope I don't forget to call them if it takes that long 8O .
????


8O

[jasedee]

Rats...I generated a temporary credit card number for this purchase that expires in four months -- I hope I don't forget to call them if it takes that long 8O .
????


8O
:x

[blay]

Rats...I generated a temporary credit card number for this purchase that expires in four months -- I hope I don't forget to call them if it takes that long 8O .
????


8O
:x

:?:

[Blank]

WTF? 8O

did i miss something hear? :oops:

or is everyone lost by that last statement?

peace
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[jasedee]

WTF? 8O

did i miss something hear? :oops:

or is everyone lost by that last statement?

peace
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Not so much lost, but just a bit shocked and disturbed actually

[Blank]

how in the fuk do you generate a temporary credit card number? is that legal?

peace
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[jasedee]

how in the fuk do you generate a temporary credit card number? is that legal?
Oh if only it were.........

I have already burnt myself once tonight with some wild allegations, but here goes......Is this guy trying to rip off Access??? By using a fake credit card ad purchasing over the net???

This is definately NOT cool...

[Blank]

If they ship it he will have to pick it up sometime...if it is a fake...i doubt you could get away with it...

peace
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[blay]

[quote=Blank].....Is this guy trying to rip off Access???

nope. just the supplier :evil:

[Blank]

oh!!! :oops:


peace
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[jasedee]

So does the supplier buy from Access, or do Access ship, and then recieve money when the products sell?

Either way, if it is what we suspect, it is criminal

[blay]

care to explain whats going on here mcoyote :?:

[mcoyote]

Sheesh...relax. My CC company (MBNA) calls it "ShopSafe". They let you generate a card number/exp/CVC2 from their website mapped to your account that (a) works with only one vendor and, (b) has a limited life span. This way, if the vendor's db gets snatched the info won't be useful for anyone else.

All I was complaining about was that the number I generated is only good for so long (four months), and if there is a significant delay in delivery it might expire. Don't worry -- I'm in debt like everyone else, and everybody gets paid.

(...and if the reader expended the energy to search for "temporary credit card numbers" on google, they'd get something like this: http://www.google.com/search?q=temporary+credit+card+numbers ...)

[Blank]

well thats actually pretty cool!!!

peace
BLank

[jasedee]

Ouch! Thats 2 strikes for me in one day.....

Please accept my apology, hope I didnt offend :)

I think for my own sake I will just keep my big mouth shut from now on

[grs]

Back to the topic, anyone heard of MAP?

Here's Audiomidi.com take on the price jump
What is MAP? Some manufacturers impose a Minimum Advertised Price (MAP) policy on their authorized dealers that limit them from advertising their on-line price below MAP. Bottom line, more often than not, there is a better price than the MAP.

Their desktop price of the TI is 1,895.00
My pre-order with them was 1,595.00
I suspect the MAP is the extra money here, what do you guys think?

[jasedee]

I suspect the MAP is the extra money here, what do you guys think?
I think you're completely right.....I dont think I have ever payed "Advertised" price on any gear, and it is their way of making you think you are getting special treatment, and big discounts

[blay]

Please accept my apology, hope I didnt offend :)

ditto. :(

[monads]

Looks like the prices have been raised. Wonder if it has anything to do with the weak dollar or increased demand? I think that extra $300 makes a big difference. But I guess most wont care because if you want one you're going to pay. I know I would. I'm just not as eager now.

[Juho L]

Has anyone preordered the TI keyboard? Since I got that job I was thinking of getting one to replace the gap of my beloved kB (and on the other hand there has to be someone to read the manuals for 99% of the TI users, hoho).

[blay]

i have :D
where do you think you will order your unit from juho?

[Juho L]

where do you think you will order your unit from juho?

Quite obvious that I order it from a local store. How much the TI price differs from the original price tag of kC?

[blay]

Quite obvious that I order it from a local store.

well not that obvious - a lot of people order from foreign suppliers...

prices are comparable (for release price).

in the past couple of days there has been a lot of complaining on the access mailing list about the fact that the ti only incorporates usb1.1 speed rather than highspeed usb2 transfer rates....

its a usb issue is valid point to make, but i do wonder just how many of these people that are complaining are people that cant afford to get one :wink:

[Juho L]

well not that obvious - a lot of people order from foreign suppliers...

prices are comparable (for release price).

I can get a good price around here. I'll just threaten to buy it from Germany and I'll get it for the real price without the air.

in the past couple of days there has been a lot of complaining on the access mailing list about the fact that the ti only incorporates usb1.1 speed rather than highspeed usb2 transfer rates....

Err... Why to complain if there would be no difference? ?hih.

[blay]

I can get a good price around here. I'll just threaten to buy it from Germany and I'll get it for the real price without the air.

exactly what i did.... :wink:

Err... Why to complain if there would be no difference? ?hih.

if highspeed usb was implemented there would be a considerable difference to the amount of individual channels that could be sent to your sequencer to allow for individual processing.

[Hollowcell]

Has anyone preordered the TI keyboard? Since I got that job I was thinking of getting one to replace the gap of my beloved kB (and on the other hand there has to be someone to read the manuals for 99% of the TRANCE users, hoho).

Another underhanded dig at the people who are making trance Juho. You should be ashamed of yourself! :wink:

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Just to confirm guys.....pirces have not been raised in the UK.

DS

[Merlot]

edit - Stupid me, that was the C model

www.novamusik.com still has them for under $1600 for the tabletop, so does this place

http://www.bananas.com/productdetail.asp/pid_7979/productname_Access-Virus-TI-Desktop-Synthesizer

[Juho L]

Seems like it's going to be 2300? for TI keyboard. Hmm... My GAS is going to be expensive. Over 4000? on GAS and that's just sick.

[3o3]

Juho: Order the TI from Germany instead. It's probably much cheaper that way.

Most of my friends use to order from Germany. You could earn x00? by doing that

[Juho L]

Juho: Order the TI from Germany instead. It's probably much cheaper that way.

No orders from Germany. Finnish music stores have started to compete with Thomann. The price tags are bit higher than in Thomann, but when you ask for a lower price and say the magic workd "Thomann", you usually get the product cheaper than Thomann price+shipping and what's best: If the product is faulty, you don't have to send it to Germany.

[3o3]

Yah, I know what you mean. It's almost the same here - but still alot of different products still are alot cheaper in Germany than in Sweden.

And one usually gets the product alot faster than if i order something from a musicstore in Gothenburg. It's sick. But i don't complain - as long as i get the best price

[Doc Eck]

There's no price for the TIs at Thomann right now, but 2 other big german music stores (www.musik-produktiv.de and www.musicstorekoeln.de) list them at 1699 Euros for the desktop and 2259 Euros for the Polar and keyboard versions.

American customers should not complain too much about prices jumping to $1900. Just remember that 1699 Euros is about $2275 right now...