Playing multiple Virus Channels in Cubase SX atthe same time

[caleyking]

Is it possible then?

At the moment when I select ANY or Channel 1 in a midi track in SX, which corresponds to the GlobalChan on the Virus, it plays.

So if I wanted to play another midi track, but use a different patch/prog, in the same project how do I do it please?

[grs]

You have to choose Multi on your Virus. And make sure that each Part has a different midi chanel.
>hit Multi - the led above Multi goes on
>hit Edit - the led above Edit goes on
>use the ( - Part + ) buttons to go thruogh the 16 parts.
>use the ( - Parameter + ) to find the 'MidiChanel'

[jasedee]

Is it possible then?
Oh yeah baby!!! :) Anything is possible in this place ;)

[caleyking]

cooool, just opened up a whole now frontier - wicked.

[blay]

cooool, just opened up a whole now frontier - wicked.

the wonderful world of general midi :wink:

[foot-e]

cooool, just opened up a whole now frontier - wicked.

yes just discovered this myself and what a hurdle to leap. Only problem is that that u can only have one instance of the effect setting for all 16 parts when in MULTI mode.

So my question for those who use thier sequencers and virus's in this way how do you get around this? I'm kinda a little frustrated because you tweak a sound till it is just what you want including the effect and then it gets taken away.

Whats a solution? I'm still learning how to sx2 and my virus c so basic explanantions would be good.

I'm going to try a few things tonight and I'm guessing that I will have to have to set up a similar effect and an audio channel in cubase.

What do you do?

[ten]

There is no way to get around it. The virus has a global delay/reverb (heaven knows why, totally retarded idea in first place.) If you want to use it in multi-mode then your up shit creek im afraid. Yes I know it makes multi-mode pretty much a waste of time unless you plan on using external delay/verb for each sound.

The virus TI will change all of that because it has independant delay/reverb for each sound, doesnt help you much I know but still its about bloody time :)

ten

[foot-e]

yes after my initial excitement and thinmking that this would make the work progress great i'm now disappointed :cry:

so I guess i have to record each sound to an audio track and keep the midi track for changing if need be at a later date.

[blay]

brett one workaround for this situation is to set up your audio outs through your soundcard... and use vst fx.

for example if you get a soundcard with 6 trs in's, you could record 3 stereo channels simultaneously from the virus into 3 seperate stereo channels in your sequencer, each of which can be set up with different vst fx.

this is one of the reasons i am still sitting waiting going insane waiting for the TI. 8O

cheers

blay

[foot-e]

cheers pete. i have a pulsar2 card limited analog ins but also has digital(adat) ins which is why i've been thinking lately that my next purchase will be an A/D converter. any recommendations? and do the "puchases" ever STOP!!

ps give my love to everybody down there!!

[blay]

they call it GAS brett (gear acquisition syndrome) :wink:

...and i am about to burst.

about the pulsar card - i would honestly consider selling it and getting a soundcard with sufficient ins - external soundcards are getting so damn cheap! besides im a bit of a nazi on signal path - less is best.

ebay it up and see whats around with at least 6 ins....

everyones good down this way - tim goes on tour this week - drew is off to israel soon - im stuck here dribbling shit to you over a forum whilst i wait for my damn keyboard :roll: :wink:

cheers

pete

[foot-e]

hmmm dint know man, just getting to finally know my pulsar and I like it... next to 0 latency, 24/96 recording, like all the easy routing available and slowly getting to like the synths ( when I take ny hands off the virus that is) so yeah i dont really wanna get rid of it. i reckon i piss off my behringer mixer and get a decent a/d converter and i will be happy.

gas indeed...

[foot-e]

or maybe sell it all and get one of those tolkien ti's :wink: i feel for ya mate seeing your frustration very clearly on this forum... hey has tim and drew gone yet? when is tim due back? ...dribble, dribble 8)

[blay]

or maybe sell it all and get one of those tolkien ti's :wink: i feel for ya mate seeing your frustration very clearly on this forum... hey has tim and drew gone yet? when is tim due back? ...dribble, dribble 8)

tim left yesterday - i think drew goes in about a month.
wish i could get back for that party on the 28th - sounds like a nice one...
and brett im not angry - just disappointed :wink: :roll:

cheers

pete

[Timo]

brett one workaround for this situation is to set up your audio outs through your soundcard... and use vst fx.

for example if you get a soundcard with 6 trs in's, you could record 3 stereo channels simultaneously from the virus into 3 seperate stereo channels in your sequencer, each of which can be set up with different vst fx.

Blay, just a wild estimate, how many effects would you hazarad a guess at which could run in realtime (well, let's say 5ms latency, or preferably less [2ms])? I know it's highly subjective, as the load on the CPU varies wildly depending on the complexity of each of the plugins used (with reverbs etc. being very intensive), but say I had a 1.9GHz Pentium-M (Centrino) or a 2.5GHz Pentium4, how many different "channels" of chained-effects could you expect to run, using general plugins such as EQ, compression and/or mult-band compression, distortion effects, tube/valve/tape emulation, chorus, reverbs and delays, etc..?

Currently I have an old 700MHz athlon running Win98se, and have no soundcard with ASIO etc., but that's all about to change soon (I've got my eye on a 1.9GHz Centrino2 laptop, and an Emu 1616M cardbus soundcard with Behringer ADA8000 AD convertor to get the extra eight analogue ins/outs from the ADAT connection), but in the meantime I've absolutely no idea how many plugins I can expect to run in realtime for processing lots of incoming and outgoing audio at the same time.....

I understand it's a "how long is a piece of string" question, but let's take the most extreme example possible... How many Waves' reverbs would you reckon could be run in realtime, using a preset such as Concert Hall, or something, for processing incoming audio channels (up to 16 mono channels - the reason being that I have 16 direct outs and 8 busses on my hardware mixer)?

Thanks!

[blay]

[quote=blay]I understand it's a "how long is a piece of string" question...

exactly!
take that length of string, divide it by the number of keys on your controller keyboard and multiply it by the cigarette butts in your ashtray, and woila! ;)

but seriously timo - id hate to even try and guess and then have you disappointed with the actual result.
too many factors to consider - ram/mobo/harddrive/fsb/ just to name a couple...

but i can tell you that my girlfriend used to own a celeron 800/512m pc133/40gig 7200 hd/cheap gigabyte mobo - and generally i could push it out to about 20 to 24 simultaneous stereo tracks, running realtime fx on say half of those tracks, and a waves c4 compressor running realtime over the entire mix. just an example for you to estimate from - im not even going to try and guess what performance your system will give you.
(btw my girlfriends celeron was a piece of shit - really unstable).

cheers

blay