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tranzash
07.12.2004, 04:07 AM
I listened some demo clips of Kyma X, pretty interesting

anyone else... 8)

waketek
07.12.2004, 07:24 AM
Yes, Kyma is one monster alright!!!!! I have been thinking of buying a system for over two years now but still not made up my mind. It made my head start to hurt just thinking of what could be done with it. If you have a strong love for Math and Synth design and Computer programing like hardcore code then it may be for you. I have seen a demo of the system and you can spend hrs, days, weeks ect. playing with it and end up with total crap or a masterpiece in sound design. The majority of Kyma users use the system for Movie SFX....but BT has created some awsome effects in his tracks with it so skys the limit! Maybe someday I will have to breakdown and pick up a system.

Tomer=Trance
07.12.2004, 10:46 AM
are you for real?
its like a new mac g5
around 4k for just the basic system without any dsp or memory upgrades.

i wonder how much should a second hand system cost

im sure you can build some very advence VAs using it
it can do much more then advence fx.

waketek
07.12.2004, 04:47 PM
For real as in buying a Kyma System? Yes I have considered it. I know it's possibilities are endless but it is the price tag to get an upgraded machine. Even used setups sell for between 2500 and 3200 the cheaper being the old system without firewire and lower DSP also can not be upgraded much without buying the new Engine. Symbolic Sound is a good company always working on updates and such transferable warranties. The main reason the system costs so much is because of the Motorola DSP chips the basic system is 3500US a fully upgraded system cost 7500US Basically the system is designed for people with a lot of cash to blow or people that are making good $$$ by using one. I would probably want to start using my studio full time before I purchased one if that ever happens.

Tomer=Trance
07.12.2004, 06:25 PM
i know few universities here have one but thats it
no private/induvidual/musician/studio here has one.

waketek
08.12.2004, 06:50 AM
here in the US a most film scoring,SFX studios, and Video Game Audio Suites have a system. I have had a little hands on which kind of got me hooked but just not in my budget right now. I just ordered a TI and a Nord Modular G2 so I will be busy for a while.

Tomer=Trance
08.12.2004, 06:21 PM
i think thats enough :wink:

tranzash
07.01.2005, 04:30 AM
The latest update, wacom pen and tablet 8O

Tomer=Trance
07.01.2005, 01:19 PM
yeah got they newsletter today.
this is amazing.
can this also be used with photoshop as a drawing board? :D

waketek
07.01.2005, 08:13 PM
As if this system was not already awsome!! They go and add this type of control to it! After my TI arrives I am starting to save for a Kyma system. Did you guys watch the demo videos for this absoluting amazing!

tranzash
08.01.2005, 01:08 AM
Demo kicks some serious ass 8O

Tomer=Trance
08.01.2005, 06:10 AM
8000 dollars
what homestudio can afford such a thing? :?

i think its the ultimate tool for live gigs and studio.
something jarra would have used on stage or orbital :D

anyway do you guys think its only for math people?
because the system itself is realy not very graphic and easy to control somewhat like max/dsp....
anybody tried that?
my eays turned black when i saw it,
couldnt even get sound out of it....
maybe i should stick to reaktor LOL :lol:

waketek
09.01.2005, 08:19 AM
The Cool thing about Kyma is you do not have to be a Huge math guy to get good results (obviously it helps but not a must). It is 100x easeir than Max/DSP and others like those(don't get me wrong the software is very deep but you will never ever outgrow it). It comes with 1000+ presets and 360 modules to help get you started and each can be opened to show the makeup and how the preset and module was designed. Kind of like the Nord Modular G2. No this system is not for your average hobbiest, or home studio. However for anyone that is currently getting their tracks or sfx ect used in projects or has a Homestudio that is making $$ than it is a piece of equipment/software that can be of great value. 8000.00 is for an almost fully loaded system which can be found in George Lucas's Skywalker Ranch and used for all the star Wars movies, But you can start with a basic system for 3,500 which is around the price of a new DAW or Keyboard Workstation. If you can get your head around Reaktor you could use a Kyma system.

waketek
08.02.2005, 07:16 PM
Well, I stumbled accross a killer deal and could not pass it up. I just got a Capybara 320 Kyma System. A new Recording studio was starting up and they had just purchased it from Symbolic Sound when the Partners went there seperate ways and sold off all the new euipment they had purchased, it has never been used! Well I will give my own review of this system when it shows up in the next week or so. My wife is gonna kill me!

MADSTATION
08.02.2005, 07:21 PM
My wife is gonna kill me!

Classic!

Congrats on your purchase!

Tomer=Trance
09.02.2005, 01:21 PM
how much is a great deal ? :wink:

waketek
09.02.2005, 05:02 PM
2950.00 and it is the new model expanded with 8 outs/ins and two additional processors with Kyma X.1 brand new in original box and has not been used. That is a savings of almost 50% Could not pass it up. Now I just need a quick side job or two to pay for it before the wife see's the bill...She knows about the Virus TI preorder but not this...

Merlot
10.02.2005, 04:03 AM
Wake,
Well hows it coming along? Have you managed to get your head around it yet? SOund? Resynthesis???

waketek
10.02.2005, 05:59 AM
It has not shown up yet! I just found out it did not ship till today so looks like next week. I have the Kyma X revealed book which I have been reading and I have managed to come to a few conclusions...

1. This thing is pretty amazing!
2. You will never outgrow it.
3. It is very very deep.

It is going to be like the Nord Modular G2 for a while...just using the presets and seeing how they were created and messing around with them tweaking them to infinity. The processing side I have my head around which is one of the main reasons I sprung for one...gonna mainly use it to process and mangle vocals,samples and other patches created from other hardware for a while. The code, scripting, and creation of your own algorithms is what will keep this thing interesting for the next decade.

I can not wait for it to show up so I can mess with it. I to will be getting some new web space soon so I will be able to post some stuff too.

I will give my full review of it when it shows up.

Sounds like you are having a good time with your V-synth.... I love mine it is a killer tool for sound design.
I hope they release version 2 in the next week or two it will only add more maddness.

I kind of went crazy over the past 6 months and picked up a lot of gear which has been on my list for some time but when the TI finally does arrive I am done for quite a while. I have to start saving to upgrade my video services to HD.

Tomer=Trance
10.02.2005, 09:25 AM
great deal
let use hear it when you get it.

waketek
11.02.2005, 10:30 PM
It will be here 2/15 if the UPS guy is on time...

waketek
16.02.2005, 04:19 AM
Well, I got the Kyma system this afternoon! I have not had a ton of time to play with it yet due to work and wife and kids but I managed to get the software and drivers installed on my machine and play with it for about an hour or so. One word! Amazing! this thing is very deep and it is going to take a long while to get my head around certain fuctions and features but I was able to get some unbelievable SFX and mangle and morph beyond anything I have ever used before. One thing that is pretty cool is the Algorithm that creates the crazy stutters and mutations of vocals that BT uses and talks about in a few articles is somewhat of a preset Random looping and Granular Sythesis Clouds applied to your vocals or drums or whatever for that matter....Don't get me wrong it is not like you just press a button and bam! All is good but a few drag and drops of some of the preset Algorithms that some PHD's came up with will get you in the ballpark very quickly. Then just fine tune and dial it in by experimenting.

After only 1 hr of use I would highly recomend this to anyone thinking of getting into Soundtrack/SFX design for Film and Games. This machine/software will be anything you want it to be Synth, Sampler, Drum machine, Efx unit, and on and on!

I will post some samples as soon as I can.

If anyone has any questions ask away I will try and answer or try to test what ever you would like.


It will be a very long weekend!