cheap viruses on ebay

[Wandering Kid]

what in the world is happening?! i just watched the clock count down on an immaculate condition virus c desktop. only had 1 bid. went for ?500 which was the starting bid. thats just nuts. you cant get them at retail for anything less than ?900 and even that is pushing it. most people typically get ?850 for one of these on ebay. theres also some virus b's on there with 0 bids. i thought i got a bargain for ?390 but i honestly can see Item number: 3767720705 going for less than ?300. which would be unbelievable. i guess nows the time to buy a virus if you havent got one. but i suppose im preaching to the perverted here 8O

surely the TI cant have dried up the demand for the older models? only 2 months ago there were bidding wars on every single one of these. i really just dont get it.

[blay]

8O

ive seen these auctions too.
im nearly considering taking back my deposit on the ti and just buying a c... and using the extra money to buy some other outboard gear...
...nearly :wink:

[Juho L]

Of course the Viruses are cheap when there's buyers market. Viruses are ridiculously cheap. There are probably ten Viruses for offer per buyer.

[Wandering Kid]

yea but do you remember how quickly they used to go last month? also, i always used to get outbid. now nobody seems to bid at all 8O

maybe its a depression in the hardware synth market or maybe a downturn in ebay buyers or something. nobody is buying the nords either. or the supernovas. in the last 2 months i saw a nord lead 2x get relisted 3 times by the same person because nobody bid on it (had a reserve on it. not sure of the amount but it was over ?450). when you consider nord lead 2x's sell for about ?750 and nobody was willing to bid over ?450 for an as new one, something has to be up. i couldnt bid on it past ?350 cuz that was my budget at the time. if i had gotten it i would be posting in the unnofficial clavia nord forum instead of here (if it exists) :lol:

there was some guy here who was selling his KC and mentioned with 24 hours to go that he was probably gonna get a rubbish price for it. i told him to wait for the last minute bidding frenzy but i reckon with auctions like the ones im seeing now, ill bet that bidding frenzy never happened :( i hope that dude got a good price for it anyway cuz an excellent condition virus KC should no way sell for less than ?700.

[Hollowcell]

Yup the TI is causing a stir by the looks.

Now would be the best time to pick up a C I rekon. Maybe the prices of C's will go up when people find out the TI has been rush-released with heaps of OS bugs. 8O

EDIT: That is my jealousy of not being able to buy a TI showing through by the way. :wink:

[blay]

EDIT: That is my jealousy of not being able to buy a TI showing through by the way. :wink:

:lol: at least you are honest mate.

[MADSTATION]

ive put my kc on ebay a few days ago...

the highest bid was 1250$ USD for a while and it went up to 1400$ USD.

thats still quite cheap for a kc!

But i wanted the TI ;)

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Sorry to hear that MAD. $1400USD equates to ?725 here in the UK. That is shockingly cheap. I sold my Virus KC for ?950 ($1,830) and I still feel as if it were given away...considering I spent ?1400+ on it.

But thats the prob with new gear...not just virus.....they dont hold the value.

DS

[Househead]

EDIT: That is my jealousy of not being able to buy a TI showing through by the way. :wink:

Is it, never :lol:

[emperor]

Hi gang

Sadly there is a lot of scams on Ebay, and things going rediculously cheap or sometimes rediculously high, is part of a scam. People are ganging together in groups. They buy something of worth by not bidding by those in the circle, but sell it a later date, and with all their freinds, hype it ip, and get all in the circle to up the price, and look like a popular deal, anyone in the circle, who wins it, need not buy it, and if they do, they do not sell to their own. So you could sell your Synth on Ebay for a pathetic ?200, and in two weeks, with the help of their freinds they can hype it up to over double. They make sure the bids stay low for those out of the scam, so they can buy low, and sell high. I saw a shitty Ob12, i wouldnt wee on if it was on fire, going for ?450,Retail for ?500!!
(Virus B or OB12????) It had an unbelievable embellishment of exaggerated bullshit, on how brilliant this "Sheep in wolfs clothing", is and had a long list of bidders.
It doesnt always work, and they dont always get the peice of equipment, but its quite nice if your in the circle. But not if your not. All the same Ebay wont do nothing about it, because, they get a nice chunk of the winning sale. all you need are a lot of freinds, a lot of Bullshit, and everyone gets their share of the pie, as they all help each other in their Auctions. I know its nothing special, but i had a TG500 peter out at ?65, I expected ?100 at least, but it seems if you can nick your way in, you can pick up a bargain. And no i dont know if they have a special handshake.

By the way i apologise for using the Word OB12 on an acccess Virus Forum, what a pile of crud!! :lol:

[Wandering Kid]

yea its true that ebay has its problems and they seem to deny the existence of the problem rather than fix it. but as long as you stick to reputable sellers and they provide details of the condition of the unit and pictures as necessary then you are pretty much covered against fraud (especially with the buyer protection going up to ?500 over christmas, plus the fact that if you use your creditcard you can use chargeback via your bank should you get scammed). if they dont have a picture or they dont describe the unit's condition and dont even specify the model (i.e. 'access virus graet condition!!!' and thats it), i wont even bother looking at it. and neither would anyone worth their weight in salt.

but that ?500 virus c desktop was from a 100% seller with 30 feedback. the indigo II that went for ?725 a couple of weeks back was from a 100% seller too with over 250 feedback.

DS, although losing near on ?500 on the price you bought it for is absolutely gutting, ?950 is one of the better prices ive seen a KC get. not the best (highest ive seen in the past 2 months is ?1,100 something, not including postage), but its hard to get buyers to break through that psychologically significant ?1,000 pound barrier. agreed on the ?725 KC though - thats just not right. MAD not only gets a shit price for his KC, but the sale devalues every other virus too. if a couple more KCs sell for around that amount, then thats the new figure that buyers will try to keep it down to and of course, every other older model has to go down too. i think this is an effect of this new trend for sellers to not put reserve prices on their units.

its common now (although not so much 6 months ago) to put up 10 day listings on expensive peices of studio gear as 0.99p and specify no reserve so that it gets absolutely tonnes of bidders that will hopefully start a bidding frenzy. i dont think that works anymore. most buyers will just wait the auction out till the last 10 minutes and snipe it which is the most logical way of keeping the auction price as low as possible.

take a look at this:

Item number: 5735394436

that guy is gonna regret that i can tell. everyone is gonna watch this auction till the last 30 seconds. put in a snipe bid and hes gonna get less than ?10 for his mate's decks.

EDIT: That is my jealousy of not being able to buy a TI showing through by the way.

whata virus TI? what is this mythological thing you speak of? it doesnt exist. LA LA LA LA LA!!!

thats my way of dealingwith not being able to afford a virus TI. it only exists when the cheapest model falls under ?500 :lol:

[ProgressiveD]

It's me who got Mad's KC for 1400 us $ :o
I wanted to get a TI too, but when I saw the low prices for the Cs, I thought I would be better off with one of these. I hope I'll like it !

Reselling gear for much less than what you paid for it is how it is in the synth world, it's sad but true. I bought my Motif 3 years ago, and wouldn't hope to get half of what I paid for it if I sold it: it's not new anymore, and the ES is out, so that's normal. I paid 3000 Can $ for it, how much is it worth now ? 1000-1300, not more. That's why I'll keep it !

Plus, don't forget that NAMM is approaching, and we should see some interesting things. People want to keep their cash until they can see what will be unveilled in january.

[Wandering Kid]

well first off id like to say damn i wish i was that LUCKY :D second, enjoy your virus, its a wicked peice of kit! third, damn you for devaluing my newly purchased virus b!

in all seriousness though, you are right about price premiums. you see it everywhere. new studio gear comes out that has extra reseach and development costs. because a production line hasnt been established yet, a company like access cannot afford to sell TI's for less than they do at launch because of this. not to mention, if you take risks with new hardware revisions and technologies, you expect a more significant gain. virus C has had a year or 2 to get a production line going and for its components to come down in price making it possible to sell virus C's cheaper. if you bought a virus C close to when it was released for its full price, you pay a premium to get this technology early. as its feature set gets matched by other hardware released on the market, its only natural to see it fall in price.

howver, you got one of the best deals ive seen on a KC, so you got the ebay/virus market at the best time yet. grats on the purchase, have you considered working in stock brokering or the shares market? :lol:

[Smag]

what in the world is happening?! i just watched the clock count down on an immaculate condition virus c desktop. only had 1 bid. went for ?500 which was the starting bid. thats just nuts.

And whose Virus was that I wonder? :oops: :oops: :oops:

I was quite suprised how cautious people were to get bidding. It just sat on 1 bid until the last 30 seconds and then I got 2 more bids. That would never have happened last month. I'm still waiting to hear from the winning bidder but the silence is deafening.

[blay]

was the final bid 500 quid?
8O

lets hope they forget about your auction :wink:

better off keeping the damn thing i reckon.

[Timo]

Don't sell via Ebay. That's insane!

Sell privately, and name your price (not stupidly, though). If everyone did this, then all second-hand Virus' would be higher, as people will still want them. They'll get sold eventually, when many people realise they can't afford the TI and lower their sights a little (but not a lot).

[Smag]

was the final bid 500 quid?
8O

lets hope they forget about your auction :wink:

better off keeping the damn thing i reckon.

It went for an outrageous ?600 together with a jaw-dropping ?12 special delivery charge. Man alive! Some people don't know a bargain when they see one.

The buyer hasn't sent the payment through yet, maybe I should keep quiet, hey? ssshhhhh don't tell anyone (he said on an international forum)

[Wandering Kid]

smag i honestly feel for you on this one because im shocked at how little viruses have been getting in the past month. anyone planning on selling their virus on ebay, for god's sake put a reserve on it. if you are desperate to make a quick sale, dont do it on ebay because chances are you will get peanuts for it. and yes smag, that virus c desktop went for ?500 a couple of days ago. only 1 bid. which was the starting price. absolutely gutting cuz it was in excellent condition. pretty much as new. the auction should register on ebay for 90 days but i dont know the auction number and i have forgotten the username of the winning bidder or the seller. ill see if i can find it anyway cuz its just painful looking at it.

[Wandering Kid]

It went for an outrageous ?600 together with a jaw-dropping ?12 special delivery charge. Man alive! Some people don't know a bargain when they see one.

The buyer hasn't sent the payment through yet, maybe I should keep quiet, hey? ssshhhhh don't tell anyone (he said on an international forum)

the sale is now legally binding and you are obliged to send him the virus should that person pay you in full within a period of time after the auction ends. typically 7 days. however, i do hope this seller's mum or something found out her kid was bidding on ebay using his parent's credit card and they dont pay up so you get a second chance at selling that virus. even ?600 for an as new virus C is nuts. good luck.

[ProgressiveD]

Hey Kid: I know I got a good price for that KC, but I wouldn't say the best price ever. Keep in mind that synths sells for are a lot more in England (in Scandinavia and in Europe too I believe). I got it for a bit less than 1700 Can $, which is still more than half of what he paid for it new two years ago (3100).

[grs]

Keep in mind lots of virus b, c owners are selling to upgrade to the TI. That's why there seems to be more around and hence the lower prices. At least that's what I'm doing. If I cant get enought cash for my b maybe I'll hang on to it. :)

[saba]

I sold my lovely, evil, red Virus C today.

Woe.

:(
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[blay]

how much did you get for it saba? (if you dont mind me asking...)

are you getting yourself a ti?

[saba]

I sold it for $3250 AUD. I'm unsure whether I'll get a TI, though. As nice as it is, there isn't all that much new. And, indeed, its an awful lot of money I could use elsewhere. Hurm hurm.
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[blay]

you got good money for it then, considering the prices they have been going for of late...

[Hollowcell]

I sold it for $3250 AUD. I'm unsure whether I'll get a TI, though. As nice as it is, there isn't all that much new. And, indeed, its an awful lot of money I could use elsewhere. Hurm hurm.

Fuckin hell! That's more than what I paid for mine new! If anyone wants to buy my C for the same cash over there in Ausi let me know. I will fly it back personaly for that money.

[inasense]

Just sold my Access Virus KB last week on ebay for $1,000.00. Just waiting for my TI to come in now. So it is a month without a Virus. :(

[Wandering Kid]

an update. virus b desktop just went on ebay this morning for ?335 + ?20 delivery :( only 2 bids. both in the last 7 minutes of the auction. the starting bid was ?325 and the first bidder didnt bid more than ?335 hence no automatic bid ups, leaving arnaud.duvinage as the winner.

check it out here:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3767720705&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

2 weeks ago i thought i snapped up a bargain on a similar virus b for ?390 + ?15 delivery. i guess i should have waited a bit. imagine what prices these will fetch after the TI is actually on sale. it just doesnt seem right.

incidentally. what is with the variation in shipping costs on ebay? do they fill the box with lead to get the weight up or something? ive seen some specify as much as ?30 to ship a virus desktop within the UK. it doesnt cost ?30 to ship something this heavy. maybe if it weighed 5 kg more!?

[ben crosland]

2 weeks ago i thought i snapped up a bargain on a similar virus b for ?390 + ?15 delivery. i guess i should have waited a bit. imagine what prices these will fetch after the TI is actually on sale. it just doesnt seem right.

You did get a bargain - that's a damn good synth you've got there, for not much money. :)

I think the prices will get more sensible once the initial rush is over. Same thing happened when the C was announced.

[Wandering Kid]

You did get a bargain - that's a damn good synth you've got there, for not much money.

thats true, but im miserly enough to keep checking up on ebay between song renders to see if people are getting better deals than me. and sure enough, they do :?

and yea, i hope they get more sensible. cuz i keep seeing virus indigos on ebay getting cheaper and even though i already have a virus, its giving me ideas! arrrrgh!

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Why are you trying to sell your virus now? People will assume your upgrading to the Ti...and will assume you will take a low price for it. Put it back on in February.....prices will be more sensible then once the rush is over (as Ben has pointed out)

DS

[wildbill]

i've never seen a cheap virus for sale yet - a few more years should do it, tho.

[blay]

i've never seen a cheap virus for sale yet - a few more years should do it, tho.

search access virus on ebay 8O

how cheap do you want em? :wink:

[wildbill]

i paid 2000 USD for my VKC and 1000 for my classic, so i figure if i get 10 more at 100 apiece, it will average out to 333.333 apiece, which sounds about right.

hey, you guys are talking cheap, right? :lol:

[Wandering Kid]

not like tin o tuna cheap though :D

[grimleyj]

My own virus b has only 5 hours left on eBay and is especially a sweet deal for UK / European bidders with the current exchange rate:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1287&item=3767937612&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Thought I would get more for my MS2Kr as well:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1287&item=3767935470&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

.. and yes, this is going towards my TI fund!
-grimley

[wildbill]

over 4 hours to go grimley - sometimes things can take a big jump up right at the end.
if i didn't already have what i do, i'd pop for it for sure - it looks like a sweet deal.
best of luck to you on your TI quest.

[wildbill]

just checked again and it looks like it went for $680.
are you happy with that?

i'm curious to know if you bought this new or used, how long did you have it, and did you pay a lot more than that for it.

i'm not trying to be really nosy (maybe just a little), but i think other people here would be curious about it too.

[Wandering Kid]

you got 22 bids for it which is pretty good. its consistant with the price most virus b desktops are getting in the past month. if a uk buyer won that or someone outside the US then they would get slapped with international delivery and import tax which would sour the deal for them. a US buyer would have a bargain there. its shame about the ms2000 - its worth more than that and a cracking good instrument.

[wildbill]

hard to believe, but we have a Guitar Center store here, and at their last 'blowout' sale they dumped a couple ms2000r's for $199 new - i shoulda popped for one.

[Wandering Kid]

shit, i could near enough afford one of those if i was in the states. its a good synth - kosheen use it and also swear by it as a good compliment to their virus c.