God, when is it?!!!

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

The damn Ti unveiling at NAMM seems to be taking for ever. Has it been done already? Or is it supposed to be happening in the next 3 or 4 hours? So frustrating.

DS

[tranzash]

Let all hope Access have some Mp3 and a nice demo :wink:

[Bjorktribe]

It's Sunday. The last day of NAMM, rght? And it's only 11:30 in California. Waiting . . .

It's pretty cruel making us wait till the last minute, but if thats what they do, thats what they do!

[Timo]

I honestly don't know DS... I've been hovering on the HarmonyCentral and SonicState websites these last few days, but nothing yet. :?

I'm so hoping for a video or demo or two, in true HarmonyCentral/Sonicstate style.

PS > It's 7:30pm on Sunday here in the UK. Lucky I'm a night owl, so might catch it if it's on doubly late. :) Otherwise we might yet even have to wait another day until "tomorrow" to catch it. :/

[Bjorktribe]

Does anybody know how late NAMM is open? I'm only 3 hours ahead of them so i plan on being up late. I'll post news as soon as i hear!

[Papa]

I believe the Nammshow ends at 6:00 p.m.
I can't imagine that there won't be any official info about the Ti from Access at the biggest music trade show in the world. Good things come to those who wait. :lol:

[Oasys]

Another pic of the TI P?lar:


http://www.jam.se/images/VIRUSTI.jpg

[Smag]

Smag finally tracks down the Access stand at Namm.........

http://photolist.thenammshow.com/images/IMG_1167.jpg

[ten]

from the access mailing list...

'ben told me it would be 45 days until it's released'

ben crossland I guess?

so thats mid/late march now :? ah well....maybe they could put in that full usb2 interface into them all while we wait for it to be ready, because at this rate by the time it ships enough time will have passed to announce the fucking virus TI-2.

ten

[Merlot]

Fellas, I don't think we are going to hear anything from Access at NAMM. After reading the crashing comment on the mailing list, Access would probably be a little embarassed if the TI were to crash during a video demonstration.
45 days sounds about right though. The date I got from the people I ordered it from was around March 10.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Merlot.....wtf wtf wtf wtf is going on lol.....

Jeepers creepers im getting so impatient. If its mid march....it could easily turn into mid April....etc. Im itching to buy something......

Im gonna be disapointed if there is no demo or news to come out of NAMM.

DS

[markorbit]

Cancelling my pre-order this week I think. Will re-assess when it's out.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

I suppose when Access say 'See you at NAMM!'.......they litrally meant.....see you at NAMM. Maybe we shouldnt have expected any further info or demos of any kind......

Do you guys really think 6 weeks is going to be long enough for Access to sort out these 'problems'. Hmmm....isnt buying the first Virus |Ti going to be a tad iffy?

hehehe.....im just ranting.

DS

[Merlot]

Jeepers creepers im getting so impatient. If its mid march....it could easily turn into mid April....etc. Im itching to buy something......
You and me both. I was actually thinking aobut cancelling my order for the TI and getting a used V-synth and VB/NL3 rack on ebay. That is what I can get for the price of the TI. I am itching to get a new peice of kit.

But then I think about when the TI actually comes out, and i would probably be shooting myself! :lol:

Im gonna be disapointed if there is no demo or news to come out of NAMM.

-EDIT- Me too! I think that is totally ridiculous if we do not hear a demo or see a vid.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Cancelling my pre-order this week I think. Will re-assess when it's out.

The bitch of doing that....is that when it does finally come out...you run the risk of not having the money to hand to buy it. Sods law.....that kinda shite always happens to me hehe. But on a serious note......this situation has been handled very un-access like.....

Im suprised at the sequence of events. I just hope Access havent got too big for their boots and believe that the paying public can be played like puppets. Im sure thats not the case......but a few 80's synth manufacturers began to weaver with this kinda attitude.

DS

[inasense]

Man this is going on too long. I sold my virus kb 2 months ago so I could have some money for the TI Polar and now I am kicking myself. Since all of us pre-ordered the Virus TI, Access should give us some kind of incentive to keep us access customers. A rebate off the TI would be kewl, but I don't think that will happen. I am just venting like everyone else.

[ten]

Lol, and you lot were bitching at me a week or so ago for giving access a hard time....how the world turns eh :)

I think a rebate is a stupid idea. Simple things like sound demos, some nice close up pictures. Some in depth info on the new features, how they work and how the software integrates and works within a sequencer. Even an online pdf manual or something.....actually, just fucking anything at all would be nice. Even tell us what the problem is causing this delay.

ten

[Hollowcell]

Even tell us what the problem is causing this delay.

ten

Yep I agree.

Even though I have been one of the guys teasing all you pre-orderers, I'm starting to feel bad for you all now.

Access should be honest and tell everyone what the hold up is. Some people are saying they are just programming new waves for the WT section, but others are saying crashes and dissabled features - Access really needs to shed light on the situation (specially after allowing pre-orders to happen based on a given release date).

The waiting game continues......

[scr]

I start thinking that Access really don't care about his customers...
I've allways heard about their serious. What now ?

I know a lot of people who cancels or have already canceled their pre-order.
they will buy some clavia or Alesis stuffs......its so sad.

Staying silent was the worst thing to do...... now it seems they have gone too far.
nobody believes in the 45 days release date.

[Timo]

Well, it's 2am, Monday morning here in the UK, and still no Access Namm news, so I'm off....

I can only hope there are some juicy demos when I wake up. Here's hoping. :roll:

[Merlot]

Is anybody else just tempted to say F$%K ACCESS and cancel your preorder and buy another piece of kit? I know I am close. I did not preorder and pay in full to be swept under the rug with sounds or release date. :evil: :evil: :evil:

[Papa]

Anyone attend NAMM? I was able to play the new Virus TI polar. That synth is wicked!! I loved the sound on that and on top of that it looks great. Too bad the price is pretty steep. But I definitely was impressed with that synth.

I found that posted here:

http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/showthread/threadid/97321

I'm not going to cancel my pre-order. I sold my Virus kb and a few other things, so I'm going to stay put. If you already ordered one you won't be charged until it ships. I agree that Access should be more open with us, but, If you enjoyed other Access gear then you know we're in for a treat. Just sit back and be cool. When they feel it's perfected we will receive it. Of course I have my Motif ES7, Nord lead2 and Juno 60 to keep me busy, so I can't miss what I never had!

[Hollowcell]

Is anybody else just tempted to say F$%K ACCESS and cancel your preorder and buy another piece of kit? I know I am close. I did not preorder and pay in full to be swept under the rug with sounds or release date. :evil: :evil: :evil:

I'd at least wait for some sound demos Merlot. The TI could be exactly what you are after in terms of sound, so spending the cash on something else could prove to be dissapointing if the TI does infact sound great.

If Access are reading, maybe you should give at least a few details - even just a small audio demo posted on the boards. People are about to jump ship!

[ten]

Yea, im not gonna cancel my pre-order for the TI. I still want this synth badly and there is nothing else im even remotely interested in. The only thing is I wont trust a fucking word access ever says again about anything. And thier once pristine customer treatment has taken a severe beating with this release.

ten

[Papa]

from keyboard magazine forums

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I spent a cool half-hour getting the story from Mr.Copland himself on Saturday. He showed me a whole bunch of new stuff that blew me away. I can't remember everything he told me, but the new sync and wavetable stuff along with the LFO's ALONE produced absolutely wonderful new sounds that morphed and filtered themselves, all with the main filters and VCA's wide open. He showed me how, sync'ing with the wavetables, you can effectively have 32 "oscillators" on just one note - it sounded like a whole new thing to me - I don't think the Virus C can do what the new TI will do at all. Also, the new more powerful dual DSP processors give tons more polyphony than you'll ever need. IMO, when they have the operating system finalized and the boyz have worked their magic on the some new patches, this will be another "must have" piece of gear (in addition to Dave Smith's Evolver Keyboard!). Should be shipping in (quote) 45 days.....so expect it around April.
Cheers,
:DTR

[Merlot]

I am not going to jump ship, I am just peaved at the fact Access has the balls to treat loyal customers this way. No press release from them at NAMM, no sounds available, not an official peep from the Access camp regarding any release dates. I know if they dont come out with some kind of statement by the end of the week regarding dates, problems, or sounds, many people will probably feel the way I do now.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Is anybody else just tempted to say F$%K ACCESS and cancel your preorder and buy another piece of kit? I know I am close. I did not preorder and pay in full to be swept under the rug with sounds or release date. :evil: :evil: :evil:

Well m8....i didnt pre-order.......however...I DO NEED A SYNTH lol.....sold all my synths remember.

Im very close to saying fook it all and get the Andromeda.

I would just like to have some info/update.....i dont like all this quietness.

DS

[Merlot]

Well m8....i didnt pre-order.......however...I DO NEED A SYNTH lol.....sold all my synths remember.

Im very close to saying fook it all and get the Andromeda.

I would just like to have some info/update.....i dont like all this quietness.

DS[/quote]

I am in the same boat, except I am looking at the v-synth. This will be my first peice of hardware kit in a year, since I sold everything else. I am going to wait a little while longer to hear what Access has to say, if they say anything at all.

[Merlot]

DS,
These (http://www.wohmart.com/a6/audio/) A6 sounds my get your G.A.S. going a bit.

[Merlot]

I am in the same boat, except I am looking at the v-synth. I am going to wait a little while longer to hear what Access has to say, if they say anything at all.

What the hell am I thinking. I'm not going anywhere! :x :evil:

[Hollowcell]

As much as I love the V-synth, it will never replace a good VA. The V-synth is a sound engineering tool which needs great sounds to put in it before you can get great things out of it (IMO). Maybe some sounds from the TI would create some nice V-synth patches (if you know what I mean :wink: ).

Hang in there fellas. Hopefully won't be long.

[Merlot]

HC,
THanks, Like i said, i am not going anywhere, I am just getting a bit anxious. Not to mention tired of turning "virtual" knobs with a mouse.

[Nigel Harkness]

If they don't give us any sort of idea as to what is going on pretty damn quick then i'm cancelling my pre-order and getting this badboy!

http://www.moogmusic.com/product_images/RME_Profile.jpg

http://www.moogmusic.com/pictures/RME_Overall.jpg

Access apparently do not know how to treat their customers anymore. You don't leave them in the dark for 2 + months, they obviously know how anxious we are about this thing and not a word out of them. You have the NAMM, which is what they wait for all year to release all of their best stuff and still nothing. WTF! The better straighten their act up or i'm done with them, bottom line!

[Timo]

Caught a quote over on the link to that FutureProducers forums:

Now that you brng that up, you are correct. I think there's still some problems with it. It didn't completely crash on me but the sound would freeze while changing presets. It didn't do it all the time but they obviously still have some bugs to work out. Hopefully they can iron those bugs out soon. One of the reps told me the synths would be availalbe 2nd quarter. It sounded like it would be late second quarter. We'll see.


Of course that's an unofficial quote, but I'm bemused as to why Access issued their initial release date (mid/late December) so pre-maturely? And why have they advertised the TI everywhere (double page, centre-fold spreads in the last 2 or 3 Sound-On-Sound mags) if there is no addtional info or treats for us consumers at this time?

[Smag]

Hmmm, I'm having serious second thoughts. I might spring for a Macbeth.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

DS,
These (http://www.wohmart.com/a6/audio/) A6 sounds my get your G.A.S. going a bit.

Thx man.....ive listened to these quite a bit already hehe. Im not going anywhere either.....im just waiting aswell.

DS

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

But i do like this A6 sound alot.....

http://www.wohmart.com/a6/audio/CCJ_A6_PolyBrass2.mp3

DS

[Bjorktribe]

It's good to remember that even though the wait is long, Access IS building a NEW piece of hardware with a NEW piece of software and a seamless way to integrate the two. Something that they ave NEVER done :D I can't imagine the pressure that they're under right now to release this project! There must be a lot of asprin in the shop and a stock of caffine pills!

!Go Access Go!

So that said, I'm waiting. This will be only my second hardware synth and I know if I buy something else I'll kick my own arse for the rest of my life. Or at least the next time I have 2300 dollars laying around. And I'm a college sudent, It's hard to save! :roll:

[u4ia]

Even with the TI being delayed it still seems like Access is ahead of the other companies in terms of the total integration idea/approach. At least I didn't hear anything else from NAMM that other companies are giong this direction. Could be another 6 months or year before another company has something similar.

The idea of having a computer plugin interface to a hardware synth is just going to be too cool. At least it is in my virus filled dreams :o)

[MADSTATION]

I'm really disapointed as well :(

Mostly since I've sold my KC a few months ago to get the TI...
No virus synth for a while I guess :(

[midislut]

As much as I love the V-synth, it will never replace a good VA. The V-synth is a sound engineering tool which needs great sounds to put in it before you can get great things out of it (IMO). Maybe some sounds from the TI would create some nice V-synth patches (if you know what I mean :wink: ).

Hang in there fellas. Hopefully won't be long.

get both !! :idea:

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

It's good to remember that even though the wait is long, Access IS building a NEW piece of hardware with a NEW piece of software and a seamless way to integrate the two. Something that they ave NEVER done :D I can't imagine the pressure that they're under right now to release this project! There must be a lot of asprin in the shop and a stock of caffine pills!

Yep......

However, they didnt have to announce an unfinished product back in November did they hehe. Its self inflicted pressure. There is a Summer NAMM they could have announced at......in my view that would have been better (hindsight of course lol).

But its all academic now.......its important for Access to just keep plodding on and finish the Ti range and get it outthere as and when they can. The last thing anyone wants is a seriously buggy VA. Im confident Access will do a good job in the end. There are some lessons to be learned here......and im sure the guys at Access will take onboard the constructive criticms positively.

SO with that said....someone plz wake me when its shipping....DOH! :oops:

DS

[grimleyj]

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:55 pm Post subject:

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As much as I love the V-synth, it will never replace a good VA. The V-synth is a sound engineering tool which needs great sounds to put in it before you can get great things out of it (IMO).


The V-Synth is actually quite a competent VA IMO, and with the new JP8000 supersaw and feedback oscillators it can only get better. Not quite as flexible as a Virus but it couldn't be easier to program and that counts for a lot. The arp is also kick ass and can be used to modulate sound params like filter cutoff and res etc, something that even the new arp on the TI can't do. Once you have created your VA patch it is then a cinch to resample and get seriously weird with the VariOS section.

However, I will still be getting a TI mainly for the Total Integration aspect. I recently sold my Virusb to fund it and I'm now having a great time exploring the VA section of the V-Synth.
There is also a rumour that OS2 for the VSynth will have streaming USB audio ... whatever that means (I doubt it will be anything like TI).
-grimley

http://grimleyj.home.comcast.net/

[Timo]

The arp is also kick ass and can be used to modulate sound params like filter cutoff and res etc, something that even the new arp on the TI can't do.

I'd so love to see this as a future feature of the TI. That'd be absolutely wicked. Along with the new 'programmability' of the arp', it would resemble a very powerful step-sequencer. Would be the icing on the cake if it was also possible to transmit this data on definable CC-Midi control channels externally, as well.

[Hollowcell]

The V-Synth is actually quite a competent VA IMO, and with the new JP8000 supersaw and feedback oscillators it can only get better. Not quite as flexible as a Virus but it couldn't be easier to program and that counts for a lot.

True, but it just isn't measuring up to some of the top VAs on the market just yet. Although who knows if they keep adding cool stuff. It may get there. The V-synth for me is the waveform mangling.

The arp is also kick ass and can be used to modulate sound params like filter cutoff and res etc, something that even the new arp on the TI can't do. Once you have created your VA patch it is then a cinch to resample and get seriously weird with the VariOS section.

The arp on the V-synth is seriously amazing. I have read alot about that infact (still want to own one so I can try it out though). Having the arp to trigger one note in each keyboard split, but having a different filter on each split, so you get a rythmical filter changing. Cool, cool stuff. The arp is amazing for sure - just wish it transmitted out as normal midi controller data, so you could control the filters and the like on the other synths in the studio.

However, I will still be getting a TI mainly for the Total Integration aspect. I recently sold my Virusb to fund it and I'm now having a great time exploring the VA section of the V-Synth.
There is also a rumour that OS2 for the VSynth will have streaming USB audio ... whatever that means (I doubt it will be anything like TI).

I'm not sure if that works on the V-synth actually, it may be an XT only thing. :( Not enough has been written about it yet (that I could find anyways)

Fuck I really wanna a V-synth. Serious GAS, but no money to burn.....



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