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Oasys
25.01.2005, 09:52 AM
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http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1960#

grs
25.01.2005, 10:03 AM
Yup! :wink:

inasense
25.01.2005, 11:30 AM
Was going to just post the video link. It looks good and sounds good so far.

jasedee
25.01.2005, 11:55 AM
Sounds F*ckin AWESOME!!!!!!!!

harrystainer
25.01.2005, 12:18 PM
Now that sounds the shit!! 8O Gonna get me one of those oneday!

Hollowcell
25.01.2005, 12:21 PM
How's that growl the TI puts out when Ben first dials in the detune spread on the Hypersaw! Fucking nice indeed.

I have had the high rez video DLing for an hour. I check it every 10 mins to see the next 10 seconds - hehe. Fuck I wanna a cable conection. Can't listen to stuff like this in low-rez.

I'm guessing this is gunna tide the people over who have them on order. Lucky Access let it out.

DIGITAL SCREAMS
25.01.2005, 12:26 PM
THis video has really made my day......

Sounds really great. Love the FM osc 1 synth thingy......reminds me of the xmod on the monopoly.

DS

Nigel Harkness
25.01.2005, 01:40 PM
WOW 8O 8O 8O !

And to think that I just sent Access a pretty vocal e-mail, Ok i'm satisfied until release now. They better not push the date back again though!!!

u4ia
25.01.2005, 02:41 PM
Holy Total Integration Batman! 8O

Thankyou thankyou thankyou!!! to the makers of this video.

After having next to nothing come for the last couple of weeks I really needed to see this. It still won't be easy, but now I feel like the wait till March will be more than worth it. I'll just have to keep watching this video a couple of times a day :D

Tomer=Trance
25.01.2005, 03:13 PM
i would love to see more then hypersaw
video stuck after 3 minutes :\

anyhow it sounds fucking sweet.

i loved the poly evolver sound
very smooth and warm.

Juho L
25.01.2005, 03:40 PM
video stuck after 3 minutes :\

The server is just slow due heavy traffic.

I watched the video and the highlights were:

1. Wavetable
2. Ben's pleasant accent

The hyped hypersaw sounded like a heavy unison B/C, which was actually expected. This leads to a point that the hypersaw creates patches that are incredibly fat and sound really sweet on their own, but infact those are too fat to fit in a mix. Well, maybe stereotypical anthem trance producers love that drown-everything-under-one-detuned-sound effect, but on other use... Nah. Too wide and too thick, I think. Although the syncing on that hypersaw system sounded really nice.

The wavetable was nice. Especially those filter wavetables. The nicest addition on Virus series along with the VST host integration.

All I can say is that it's a nice synth, but won't get any GAS points from me anymore. While watching that video I realised that it's just another Virus synth... Come my brothers and join the software revolution - The revolution for comfort, practicality and economy.

Tomer=Trance
25.01.2005, 05:03 PM
and tastes like caned chicken.
software synths are just not there yet.

Merlot
25.01.2005, 05:27 PM
Damn there is heavy traffic on sonicstate today. I have been downloading for 5 minutes and only have the first 10 seconds. That is on a cable line too. :cry:

Juho L
25.01.2005, 05:36 PM
and tastes like caned chicken.
software synths are just not there yet.

Moog Modular V2 and Z3ta+ for example are plugins that sound even better than most of HW VA's. Not to forget Tera2 that shines in synthesis variety and complexity. If I could make a mix that would have various VA's mixed with software you couldn't tell which is which, actually you couldn't tell even if they would play one by one (althoug it's very easy to notice trademark characteristics of different synths/VSTi's if you have used them a lot).

You have lot to learn, Tomer my friend. Even if the big boys say software is crap, don't listen to them. They are just jealous because they spend thousands of euros in gear that is beaten by modern software that's comfortable in studio and cheap as hell. Hoho.

But seriously, the new plugins easily beat most of the VA's around and it's not bad from a software that costs 300? each. The only reason to pick hardware is the concrete user interface and of course because hardware is physical you have a feeling that you actually own something.

Juho L
25.01.2005, 05:39 PM
Damn there is heavy traffic on sonicstate today. I have been downloading for 5 minutes and only have the first 10 seconds. That is on a cable line too.

Yup. It's totally stuck. I'd bet that the TI video is causing it.

Merlot
25.01.2005, 05:47 PM
The only reason to pick hardware is the concrete user interface and of course because hardware is physical you have a feeling that you actually own something.

I think also, it is more satisfying at least to me, that I am turning real knobs. After going all software for the past year, I need a piece of hardware kit to satify this craving. :lol: I have an oxy8, but it just doesnt do it, b/c everytime i fire up logic, i have to reassign knobs and such. It is a small excuse to buy hardware, but it works for me.
You are right though. Software is getting closer and closer to hardware. Not a fan of z3, when i tried it at a friends house, it sounded metallic almost. Might have been his speaker though. Tera sounds boss.

Merlot
25.01.2005, 06:08 PM
I am only half way done with the video, but my GOD!This thing sounds nice and fat, and plenty of headroom to do whatever you want. I especially love Ben's face when he is messing with the FM knob. Alright, this will defenitely hold me over until it is released. Well done Access, and it is about damn time we heard it!!! 8)

u4ia
25.01.2005, 06:37 PM
Maybe another thing that is in favor of hardware is that it offloads some of the sound generation away from the computer.

I currently have a laptop so I definitely reach my cpu limits much quicker than a dual G5 or top of the line pc will. Passing the sound generation duites over to TI will hopefully free up the laptop cpu to do other things.

Of course this is all in theory, since I won't have a way to test it out till sometime in March :) I can't imagine the virus au/vst plugin would take that much cpu since it is acting as a gateway between the computer and the virus (but I could be wrong on that)

Nigel Harkness
25.01.2005, 06:38 PM
and tastes like caned chicken.
software synths are just not there yet.

Moog Modular V2 and Z3ta+ for example are plugins that sound even better than most of HW VA's.

The Moog Mod and Z3ta+ is FAT sounding definetly.

Don't forget about Atrurias Mini-moog and I also just got Arturias ARP2600 and it sounds pretty damn nice also, just haven't got to toy with it too much yet.

Nigel Harkness
25.01.2005, 06:44 PM
Does anyone know of a way to record the video of this clip because I can't find as way to download it.

SoundzplastikSurgeon
25.01.2005, 06:53 PM
Mouaehhh...it's driving me crazy. First waiting for the TI to ship and now unable to watch the video without it stopping every frigging minute....arghhh. :x

Juho L
25.01.2005, 07:02 PM
I currently have a laptop so I definitely reach my cpu limits much quicker than a dual G5 or top of the line pc will. Passing the sound generation duites over to TI will hopefully free up the laptop cpu to do other things.

There's a small dilemma in this argument. You use hardware because you run out of processing power? Then why not to invest that 2200 euros for a new computer with software instead of Virus TI?

Merlot
25.01.2005, 07:07 PM
Then why not to invest that 2200 euros for a new computer with software instead of Virus TI?

I am in the same situation, and for me it is the notion that the computer wont hold its value like the synthesizer will. The virus's hold their value ten fold over what a 2 or 3 year old pc would go for. I am on mac and tend to upgrade maybe every 3 years for a computer. JMO.

Nigel Harkness
25.01.2005, 07:14 PM
I currently have a laptop so I definitely reach my cpu limits much quicker than a dual G5 or top of the line pc will. Passing the sound generation duites over to TI will hopefully free up the laptop cpu to do other things.

How many different vst's do you really need to use at once? I use vst's and then bounce down the audio and inactivate the plug-in so that it doesn't put a strain on the your processor power. I also save the raw audio just in case I want to go back and change the vst effect on it.

Tomer=Trance
25.01.2005, 07:31 PM
and tastes like caned chicken.
software synths are just not there yet.

Moog Modular V2 and Z3ta+ for example are plugins that sound even better than most of HW VA's. Not to forget Tera2 that shines in synthesis variety and complexity. If I could make a mix that would have various VA's mixed with software you couldn't tell which is which, actually you couldn't tell even if they would play one by one (althoug it's very easy to notice trademark characteristics of different synths/VSTi's if you have used them a lot).

You have lot to learn, Tomer my friend. Even if the big boys say software is crap, don't listen to them. They are just jealous because they spend thousands of euros in gear that is beaten by modern software that's comfortable in studio and cheap as hell. Hoho.

But seriously, the new plugins easily beat most of the VA's around and it's not bad from a software that costs 300? each. The only reason to pick hardware is the concrete user interface and of course because hardware is physical you have a feeling that you actually own something.

dont get me wrong juho
i use software,alot!
i love minimoog v,arp2600,gmedia imposcar and oddity
but i still think some cant still reach that rich,warm,fat analog sound.
but they come close. :wink:

i found z3ta very plastic and not to my liking but everyone and his own taste...
i do agree that when mixing a track\song you wont realy notice what is playing if its not a solo part that realy shows the charecter of the sound.

Juho L
25.01.2005, 07:34 PM
i do agree that when mixing a track\song you wont realy notice what is playing if its not a solo part that realy shows the charecter of the sound.

I'm building a guess-hardware-or-software clip... We'll see soon. Muahahaha!

Tomer=Trance
25.01.2005, 07:37 PM
There's a small dilemma in this argument. You use hardware because you run out of processing power? Then why not to invest that 2200 euros for a new computer with software instead of Virus TI?

you will always run out of prossesing power.
you havent noticed that no matter how prossesors become faster software keeps taping on his back telling him "i need more!!"

its a never ending cycle...
software still take lots of resources no matter if you have a g5 or a p3.

MarcTale
25.01.2005, 07:39 PM
http://www.sonicftp.com/vids/mov/wnamm05_access_virus_ti.mov

Juho L
25.01.2005, 07:46 PM
you will always run out of prossesing power.
you havent noticed that no matter how prossesors become faster software keeps taping on his back telling him "i need more!!"

its a never ending cycle...
software still take lots of resources no matter if you have a g5 or a p3.

Same thing with hardware. Better processors -> new synth models. And if you now get a top notch Mac or PC you can run loads of heavy VSTi's. Of course there will be new even more heavy and impressive VSTi's sooner or later, but with current quality level of VSTi's there shouldn't be reason to update in ages.

u4ia
25.01.2005, 09:05 PM
There's a small dilemma in this argument. You use hardware because you run out of processing power? Then why not to invest that 2200 euros for a new computer with software instead of Virus TI?

Well....ummmm....because......ummmm...you got me there :) Ok I admit it, I have been seduced by the Virus's sexy knobs and shiny pulsating lights.

Timo
25.01.2005, 09:58 PM
Arhg, Sonicstate's upstream is crawling... Everyone's prolly caning it to get to hear it, lol.

Am waiting 'til my player's loaded and buffered before playback.................................. :D

grs
25.01.2005, 10:09 PM
and tastes like caned chicken.
software synths are just not there yet.

Moog Modular V2 and Z3ta+ for example are plugins that sound even better than most of HW VA's.

The Moog Mod and Z3ta+ is FAT sounding definetly.

Don't forget about Atrurias Mini-moog and I also just got Arturias ARP2600 and it sounds pretty damn nice also, just haven't got to toy with it too much yet.

The thing that kills any Atruria product for any productive sessions for me is the patch system, you can't use any 3rd party vst patch managers to get creative and morph/randomise patches etc. The Z3ta+ is just a bit thin sounding and it takes 10 times longer to come up with useful sounds compaired with my Virus b.
So if you look at time saving and satisfaction as being important when your producing the soft synths take a back seat!
So far my last 6 productions I have used Polyiblit (free vsti) inside Energy XT with an arp. That little free dude is intuitive and productive. + virus, korg poly6 (vsti), Vanguard, etc

grs
25.01.2005, 10:11 PM
Arhg, Sonicstate's upstream is crawling... Everyone's prolly caning it to get to hear it, lol.

Am waiting 'til my player's loaded and buffered before playback.................................. :D

lets make a torrent of it, :twisted: although it is (c) sonic state.com

Timo
25.01.2005, 11:31 PM
Does teh TI come with a free splash guard? :lol: 8)

As Hollow said, that Hypersaw when evily detuned.... :twisted: