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harrystainer
29.01.2005, 12:24 PM
On the Ti models there is that strange LED in the mix-section where osc volume would be on the C series. Anyone know what this is for as it is not a BPM indicator? If this has already been covered then i apologise.
nordlead
29.01.2005, 01:44 PM
I was wondering the same thing...
nordlead
29.01.2005, 02:19 PM
also, will the wavetables be customizable like in the korg wavestation?
also, will the wavetables be customizable like in the korg wavestation?
i probably could answer that but i'm not certain in which way you can customise the wavetables in a wavestation. the wavestation is using something called wavesequencing, that' something different.
to my knowledge (please correct me if i'm wrong, i've sold my wavestation more than 10 years ago) the wavestation allows an oscillator to playback a chain of waveforms. korg did this by having a kind of sequencer triggering the samples for every oscillator.
what we do is a bit different. there is a set of samples called a wavetable and there is a pointer which describes which sample within the wavetable is being played. each wavetable can hold a certain amount of samples. now if the pointer is in between the samples the TI interpolates and builds a new sample which is a mixture of the samples next to the pointer (you could call this morphing although the expression is fairly blurred these days).
here is an example: a wavetable consists of only two samples. one is a sinewave, the other one is a sqarewave. in position 0 the oscillator plays a pure sinewave. in position 127 the oscillators plays a ... pure square - you got it. now when you move the pointer from 0 to 127, the waveform played gradually changes from a sine to a square. the pointer's position can be changed using the mod matrix.
now imagine you have a wavetable with 3 waveforms. one sounds like "ohh", the middle one like "ehh" and the last one like "ahh". you can set up a sound in less than a minute which lets you play vowels.
obviously those two are rather simple examples. certainly not the end of the rabbit hole.
best, marc
nordlead
29.01.2005, 06:59 PM
Thanks for the answer, Marc. What about the mysterious led?
tranzash
29.01.2005, 10:40 PM
What about the power switch? It's not in the back of the desktop or polar or kb. The transpose buttons acts as power on/off in the picture.
I posted this earlier :wink:
harrystainer
29.01.2005, 11:00 PM
What about the power switch?
Yeh I noticed this also. I don't think Access would put an LED there just to look pretty, it must have a purpose. :roll:
http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2004/Virus-TI-Desktop-lg.jpg
Hmm....
PS > Looks like the FM feature is going to see an update, with the "FM mode" dual-function legending below the knob.
ben crosland
30.01.2005, 01:30 AM
Looks like the FM feature is going to see an update, with the "FM mode" dual-function legending below the knob.
FM Mode is used to switch between PosTri, Tri, Wave, Noise etc, like in the B and C. As it happens though, the Wavetables offer two different types of FM - FreqMod and PhaseMod. Both are different implentations than in previous viruses, and sound pretty damn good..
Merlot
30.01.2005, 01:32 AM
Defenitely looking forward to hearing the phasemod on the wavetables! I bet that sounds nice and you can come up with some off the wall stuff.
mcoyote
31.01.2005, 05:52 PM
On the Ti models there is that strange LED in the mix-section where osc volume would be on the C series. Anyone know what this is for as it is not a BPM indicator? If this has already been covered then i apologise.
Indicates when a software update is available.
harrystainer
31.01.2005, 07:12 PM
On the Ti models there is that strange LED in the mix-section where osc volume would be on the C series. Anyone know what this is for as it is not a BPM indicator? If this has already been covered then i apologise.
Indicates when a software update is available.
Ummm...whats wrong with an e-mail from Access? I think thats just a bit pointless IMO.
mcoyote
31.01.2005, 07:54 PM
On the Ti models there is that strange LED in the mix-section where osc volume would be on the C series. Anyone know what this is for as it is not a BPM indicator? If this has already been covered then i apologise.
Indicates when a software update is available.
Ummm...whats wrong with an e-mail from Access? I think thats just a bit pointless IMO.
(a) I am making this up. I have no idea, but that would be an interesting touch -- in line with the Total Integration bit.
(b) Who the hell is this:
http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/images/avatars/uploads/d92ba78941f05092be6c7.jpg
...and is she free on Friday?
harrystainer
31.01.2005, 08:14 PM
(a) I am making this up. I have no idea, but that would be an interesting touch -- in line with the Total Integration bit.
(b) Who the hell is this:
http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/images/avatars/uploads/d92ba78941f05092be6c7.jpg
...and is she free on Friday?
lol Mc...I take things too seriously sometimes hehe hard to tell with just plain text. That fine piece of ass is "Elin Grindemeyr" she's a Swedish model. :P 8O
Tissues ready:
http://www.elingrindemyr.nl/index.php?pagina=images
Nigel Harkness
01.02.2005, 12:46 AM
Tissues ready:
http://www.elingrindemyr.nl/index.php?pagina=images
http://www.globalunderground.co.uk/forum/images/smiles/gu_b_thanku.gif
(a) I am making this up. I have no idea, but that would be an interesting touch -- in line with the Total Integration bit.
(b) Who the hell is this:
http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/images/avatars/uploads/d92ba78941f05092be6c7.jpg
...and is she free on Friday?
lol Mc...I take things too seriously sometimes hehe hard to tell with just plain text. That fine piece of ass is "Elin Grindemeyr" she's a Swedish model. :P 8O
Tissues ready:
http://www.elingrindemyr.nl/index.php?pagina=images
Lol, forget her, I'm more interested in who this lass on Gopal's avatar:
http://www.short-media.com/forum/customavatars/avatar21_4.gif
;)
Gopal
01.02.2005, 01:27 AM
Sorry guys, I dunno myself or I wouldn't married her by now lol
Oh, bouncy bouncy,
I could stare at those all day :)
8)
Everyone needs a bosom for a pillow.....
Or two. :)
Hollowcell
01.02.2005, 09:58 AM
Indicates when a software update is available.
Hehehe!
The day a hardware synth access's the internet looking for updates themselves is the same day Microsoft end up making one - then we're all fucked!
EnjoyRC
18.02.2005, 01:26 PM
On the Ti models there is that strange LED in the mix-section where osc volume would be on the C series. Anyone know what this is for as it is not a BPM indicator? If this has already been covered then i apologise.
I'm still curious about the LED...
udenjoe
18.02.2005, 02:43 PM
Maybe it's the tempo. I don't see a tempo one.
I like the eq selection. Jealous.
harrystainer
18.02.2005, 03:47 PM
Maybe it's the tempo. I don't see a tempo one.
There already is a BPM indicator at the top left of the display.
EnjoyRC
18.02.2005, 05:30 PM
Guess #14: When editing a patch, that light illuminuates when you have the knob, that you're modifying, in the same position as the saved patch.
harrystainer
18.02.2005, 10:57 PM
Personally I think it illuminates when you activate the shift function, as to let you know that the buttons you press will perform the "shifted" action. Seems the most logical to me.
Guess #14: When editing a patch, that light illuminuates when you have the knob, that you're modifying, in the same position as the saved patch.
you won :)
marc
The Silver Freakbox
19.02.2005, 08:53 PM
i'm guessing it's a led that shows yr connected to a pc. or indeed a shift led.
maybe it's just some fancy breathing powerled! :twisted:
Wandering Kid
19.02.2005, 10:03 PM
the LED is quite clearly the indicator that the inbuilt bomb inside the TI is active. when you see the light flick on, run for cover or you may lose your face and hands.
I think it's a cup-of-tea-ometer.
You know, when you've been tweaking longer than you should have, the LED pops on as if to say "Take a break and give my knobs a rest, you complete geek!". When it starts flashing you know you're in for trouble, as the synth's chassis auto hooks up to the mains electrics via an electronic relay, and zaps ya silly next time you prod it.
PS > Thanks Marc. ;)
Wandering Kid
19.02.2005, 10:17 PM
yea. it would be funny if the LED display would start scrolling 'hey buddy, lay of my filter cutoff man - you twist it so hard you are hurting me'
phyler.exe
27.02.2005, 07:33 PM
..Think I read somewhere it's a saturation indicator, similar to the Mini which has an 'overload' led (lamp?) in the mixer section.
An original idea? err no.. Useful? well, nice to have a visual indication if saturation is used, or how any modulation you have routed there turns out. But you usually hear it just as well if not better. Hmm, seems like Access really want the kids to scream for this board.. Flashing logos.. 8) Unless there's some unknown invention or function that would make use of this led. Would be nice if you could use it as a general indicator led, routing functions to it like you can do with the LFO led's in the C.
ben crosland
27.02.2005, 07:38 PM
Just read Marc's post again ;)
phyler.exe
27.02.2005, 07:45 PM
Ahh.. Perhaps I was trying to do less than one thing at a time. Anyway, Ben.. Lobby for the routable 'indicator led' if you get a chance, I hope you agree that it would come in handy?
EnjoyRC
04.03.2005, 05:38 PM
Here's the scoop from Access:
> 5. What is the extra LED with the Access logo around it in the OSC
mixer section?
This LED is not in the oscillator section but in the mixer section (see the gallery pictures of the TI) and represents the currently selected tempo on the TI.
ben crosland
04.03.2005, 06:18 PM
Nah - that's a mistake ;)
The BPM light is located to the top left of the display.
EnjoyRC
04.03.2005, 06:32 PM
Nah - that's a mistake ;)
The BPM light is located to the top left of the display.
I saw that in the pics too. Yet this was a quote from:
Joerg Huettner
Access Music Tech Support
EnjoyRC
07.03.2005, 10:14 AM
I received another reply from Access about the light today....
Thank you for your mail. The LED lights up when a parameter you're tweaking equals it's original value stored in the patch.
With best regards,
Marc Schlaile
Access Music Tech Support
My earlier guess was right.
harrystainer
07.03.2005, 11:58 AM
well at least the mystery is now solved!
EnjoyRC
07.03.2005, 02:06 PM
Next Mystery: When will we get one? :)
harrystainer
07.03.2005, 04:55 PM
Never! I don't think its worth upgrading from a C thats only a few months old!
Thank you for your mail. The LED lights up when a parameter you're tweaking equals it's original value stored in the patch.
With best regards,
Marc Schlaile
Access Music Tech Support
nice touch :wink:
can i have a go now? :(
tranzash
12.03.2005, 08:20 PM
The LED lights up when a parameter you're tweaking equals it's original value stored in the patch.
Is this a waste of LED :roll: The original value already shows as long as you tweek the knob. right? (knob settings)
Hollowcell
12.03.2005, 10:17 PM
can i have a go now? :(
Hehe, reminds me of when I was a youngster - my friend got Starwars on the Atari-2600 and I would have to say this sentence maybe 25-30 times before the bastard would give me a shot.
At least the Atari was released though. :D :wink:
Interesting use of the LED!
This reminds me of the Pointless LED inside my Sidstation. Theres literally an LED on the circuit board labeled "Pointless" :lol:
Fasttracker
09.04.2005, 02:05 PM
Well i don't think it's useless , it's nice to have a visual indicator of the original value when you want to do some live tweaking with the fm amount or shape or Osc balance (using as an effect), then you can easily revert to your original value so you don't come out with a different sound after the knob twiddling.
I have this on an electribe R (Little percussion synth with some pattern editing) and i found this to be rather usefull.
Greetz...
EnjoyRC
09.04.2005, 04:02 PM
It also exists on my Korg MS2000. I find it very handy when wanting to tweak the sound slightly from the original settings. Or a way to learn the original settings of the factory presets.
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