Ti Comparable To Any Other Synths

[acid1]

This TI shipping thing really has me down in the dumps. I ordered a C and before it arrived it was discontinued for the TI, so I had to change my order to a more expensive model blah blah blah might turn into 6-7 months before I get my order I originally made in October

So if you could get a synth that was comparable to a virus ti or even a virus c, what would you get?

[jasedee]

So if you could get a synth that was comparable to a virus ti or even a virus c, what would you get?
Hmmm.....I would get an Andromeda, or perhaps a NordLead, or maybe even a Supernova

[harrystainer]

I'd have to say the Nordlead.

[acid1]

only thing nord lead lacks is all the effects I want

that andromeda looks tasty tho

Q+ looks neat too



HURRY UP ACCESS!!!!!!!!!!! :cry:

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

For a VA the Nord's sound nice....however the 49 keys will likely get on ur tits after a while....particualrly if its ur only keyboard.

Alot of people have bashed the onboard effects on the Andromeda.....but they are in fact pretty damn good and useable. Especially the true analog distortions and delays.

Its a tough one to call. If the Ti does get pushed back till April then im just going to to wait till the end of the summer before i pick one up. August time....

DS

[acid1]

Its a tough one to call. If the Ti does get pushed back till April then im just going to to wait till the end of the summer before i pick one up. August time....
DS

yeah i'm in the same boat

[Royalston]

Im a long time lurker on this forum but I finally have to ask a question.
I made a pre-order on the TI months ago and am now considering finding something a different synth - I dont want the TI to arrived with bugs and the whole USB 1 thing is an issue...
So Im after some opinions as to how the Andromeda stacks up (sound wise) against, say, a Virus C ...
I had a C and sold it for the TI and I would love some opinions because Im seriously thinking of switching to the andromeda....

Royalston

[jasedee]

I had a C and sold it for the TI and I would love some opinions because Im seriously thinking of switching to the andromeda....
The best thing you can do is go down to your local electronic music store and play with the Andromeda. I know most places probably wont stock this type of thing, but it would really be the only way that you will know for sure if the Andy is the synth for you.

Or else....hold tight for Ti. Im sure it will be here soon enough.

[Royalston]

I checked the 4 music stores that are roughly near me and no one has one in sydney.... :(
It was a good idea though!

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Im a long time lurker on this forum but I finally have to ask a question.
I made a pre-order on the TI months ago and am now considering finding something a different synth - I dont want the TI to arrived with bugs and the whole USB 1 thing is an issue...
So Im after some opinions as to how the Andromeda stacks up (sound wise) against, say, a Virus C ...
I had a C and sold it for the TI and I would love some opinions because Im seriously thinking of switching to the andromeda....

Royalston

Personally i dont think the TI will arrive onto the market with that many bugs. The USB 1 speed 'issue' is not really an issue at all! The bandwidth appears to be more than suffient......even if it was expanded somewhat in later OS updates. Having USB2 would be overkill.....just as current midi is now. Midi has never been fully utilized.......some 25 years after its conception.

The Andromeda is a nice sounding synth. Its analog.....and naturally provides greater authenticity if 'analog sounds' are what your after. I personally use analogs.....and for the most part they are more satisfying than VA. However, VA does bring a distinctly different kinda sound to the table....which is useful. In my opinion the Andromeda sounds a little nicer than the Virus C.....but the difference is not huge. Bigger differences can be heared when comparing to a Prophet or Jupiter.....

At this price point (i.e. high end)....most synths will suffice and do a good job. What the Virus TI does is yet to be seen.....but im pretty confident it will be an improvement over exciting Virus'

DS

[Royalston]

I am a big fan of analog sounds myself....I previously had thought that software/ VAs had replicated the sound that analogue machines can produce but now I think otherwise.
My old Juno 60, which has never really worked properly (since I owned it) produces some beautiful bass that I can seem to get with the Virus. Its a subtle difference, but one that I miss (My Juno's battery drains itself constantly so its basically unusable)

Having said that, the virus is amazingly versatile. The wait has just given me time to get over the initial excitement of 'integration'. I agree USB is probably enough - I use only a fraction of what midi can do...but the temptation of a big analog synth is strong -especially since my Juno has died.

[jasedee]

I checked the 4 music stores that are roughly near me and no one has one in sydney.... :(
It was a good idea though!
Did you check Sound Devices???? Last time I was there (Quite a while ago) they did have Andromeda

[Royalston]

Yep, the guy sounded very grumpy. Monday morning, I guess.
They didnt have one.

[jasedee]

Yep, the guy sounded very grumpy. Monday morning, I guess.
They didnt have one.
No....they are just grumpy all the f*cking time!!!!!

Hence why I make the trek out to Turramurra Music. Fantastic service, friendly and informative staff. I guess me spending $20k there probably helped a bit ;)

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Yes Jase.....spending that kinda money puts u onto their data base of 'customers not to fuck with'

LOL....but was that your money? WOW....where did u get it from? Your uni paid for it? Btw hows the studer desk these days.....keep it nice and warm...

You still playing around with your virus?

DS

[Hollowcell]

I guess me spending $20k there probably helped a bit ;)

Yep, this is a great way to get better service. :D

[jasedee]

Yes Jase.....spending that kinda money puts u onto their data base of 'customers not to fuck with'
Indeed! Plus I have taken a couple mates there to get started with their home studios, so probably add another $10k to that amount

LOL....but was that your money? WOW....where did u get it from? Your uni paid for it? Btw hows the studer desk these days.....keep it nice and warm...
I got a loan just before I started college, and spent it all on Studio gear. Parents helped me out with college, and Uni is being taken care of by government loan, but since I now earn an income, I can claim petrol allowance, purchasing new gear, and even my school fees as it is related. Its scary though, cos I have to document EVERYTHING.....and keep income/expenditure statements etc

The Studer is rock solid!!!! It is my secret weapon....I just wish you guys could hear it in person...Drums sound gold through it. I have just finished a Demo with this young band, and recorded the drums in my tiny little room, and they sound HOT!

You still playing around with your virus?
Well....I turned it on for the first time in a long while the other day. Truth is, I havent had much chance to do my own music lately cos of work, Uni, and recording/mixing other people. But soon as this batch of audio related work is over, I am going to concentrate more on my own stuff as well as dedicate more time to studying.

[chrisk]

Forgive me. As a one time Virus C owner I've been periodically visiting this site (lurking) for some time and have been following the on going TI saga with some interest.

So if you could get a synth that was comparable to a virus ti or even a virus c, what would you get?

Imho (and this is just my subjective and not unbiased opinion) the best VA synth, judged by sound quality alone, is the Creamware Noah. You don't just get one 'synth' you get several models, including the Minimax which is widely regarded the best Minimoog emulation. You also get a Pro One, an Odyssey and and a Hammond B3 emulation as well as digital wavetable and vector synths. There's also a really vintage sounding vocoder and a stereo filter bank based upon the 24db Mini filter model.

The analogue emulations were modelled down to the component level of the original circuits (like Korg did with their Legacy MS20) and are really convincing. The instuments have real presence and depth. The bottom end is fat and the top is detailed and clear with absolutely no aliasing. To my ears the Noah's emulations are far more convincingly analogue than the Virus C. As Creamware say they are not so much emulations as 1 to 1 recreations of the instruments sound and character.

It can stream 6 channels of audio via USB and also ouputs digital audio via ADAT and S/PDIF.

I could go on but I won't. Anyway here's where I declare an interest: I've currently got mine on auction on Ebay UK (I need the money for a new paraglider - don't ask!). I should think it will sell for much less than a new TI and is definately worth considering if you want something different and want the best analogue emulation.

More info here:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7309108789&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT[/quote]

[acid1]

thanks for all the great suggestions, and although it was obvious, nothing really does what I need like the Virus TI.... I'm gonna wait till as long as I possibly can before I get this...

but please...

for the love everything sacred....

Access....

PLEASE SEND ME MY VIRUS!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

[acid1]

on a side note i went to LA and played with a Q+, Virus C, Nord 3, Nord 2, Roland V Synth, and an Andromeda

[chrisk]

on a side note i went to LA and played with a Q+, Virus C, Nord 3, Nord 2, Roland V Synth, and an Andromeda

Your impressions of the Andromeda? I have heard mixed reports - some say its a fine analogue poly, others, that it's slightly lacking in warmth and bass presence.

[Doc Jones]

on a side note i went to LA and played with a Q+, Virus C, Nord 3, Nord 2, Roland V Synth, and an Andromeda
Now that would be a fun day!! I don't have any stores around me that carry any of that. I remember calling the local music shop (a pretty sizable place) and they were like "A virus what?"

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

My opinion of the Andromeda A6 is this:

In comparison to VA it sounds significantly better.....if traditional 'analog' type sounds are what your after. However, vintage analog poly it isnt.....and there *is* a distinct lack of warmth/presense.

So in real terms the A6 would be a better pick than a VA.....but its not quite as good as the oldies. This opinion is reflected by most people.

DS

[acid1]

Your impressions of the Andromeda? I have heard mixed reports - some say its a fine analogue poly, others, that it's slightly lacking in warmth and bass presence.

I liked it a lot, its very punchy. I was definatly pulling out lots of bass from the thing, maybe even more then the other synths I played with.

Personally I wasen't a huge fan of the effects that came with it, and I felt a little restricted with some of the parameters like LFO frequency etc.

[chrisk]

I thought I was buying an Andromeda a couple of weeks ago. I spotted one advertised in the classifieds on Vintage Synth Explorer for 900 USD! I got really excited and mailed the guy. He wrote back saying that the Andy was still available but that he only accepted payment via Western Union. Of course the mention of Western Union fairly set alarm bells ringing.

The add's still there, I think.

Advert starts with "Bom! Psyhead is at your foot"

It could be genuine? He might have just done too much acid and wanted rid of the evil machine. "It's alive I tell you. Alive!"

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Western Union....no way man stay clear. There is a scam with that at the moment. On the SOS (Sound on Sound) webiste, users have been warned not to do dealings through them. You pay for goods that never arrive. The price is dodgy too.

DS

[chrisk]

Oh yeah, I agree Western Union is the Scammers International Cash Fund. Its a favourite with the 419 scammers.

[wildbill]

on a side note i went to LA and played with a Q+, Virus C, Nord 3, Nord 2, Roland V Synth, and an Andromeda


of the ones you listed, which one 'grabbed' you the most?
sounds like you had only a short time with each one, but which one would you most like to go back and use again?

[acid1]

on a side note i went to LA and played with a Q+, Virus C, Nord 3, Nord 2, Roland V Synth, and an Andromeda


of the ones you listed, which one 'grabbed' you the most?
sounds like you had only a short time with each one, but which one would you most like to go back and use again?


to be honest, i was stoned and drunk out of my mind thru most of it cuz i was on vacation, but i went to two studios and one store (sam ash or something)

The Q+ was a trip to play with so it gets points for fun factor. I'd concider getting one.

The Virus C was a desktop and I loved how easily i was creating dark textures. I would have liked to have felt the full size desktop however.

The Andromeda seemed like it had lots of potential but again it seemed a bit limited (no pun intended).

The Nord 3 and the nord 2 are nice, but didn't grab me at all.



ps - this is coming from someone who has never owned a piece of outboard gear but has been making chunes for about 10 years. I tend to write darker stuff as well, if I wanted to make crisp clean alien bizarre tones the Nord 3 would rank a lot higher.