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DIGITAL SCREAMS
12.03.2005, 06:54 PM
The A6 has just come down alot in the UK....litrally in last day or two. Digital Village are now selling them for ?1589. Thats just ?89 more than the TI. Very tempted......

DS

tranzash
12.03.2005, 07:47 PM
I wish they had a desktop version of A6. At the local samash store they were selling the last A6 for $1800.00. Some hip hop guy bought it, he said he likes to use Andy for sub basses :roll:

How are you doing with that Jupiter8? Very phasing phat pads right :D
I wish I had an analog like jp or oberheims.

F5D
12.03.2005, 09:12 PM
Maybe it's due to the bad dollar. The Andromeda has cost about 2400e in Germany for a half year already. Maybe the british stores haven't checked the price until now. Many stores keep selling some items at the same price very long after altough the currencies go upside down. It may sound grazy but I am not going to buy the TI from europe altough I live here. By ordering from USA the price will be about 20-30% cheaper altough I pay all the taxes.

Timo
12.03.2005, 11:17 PM
I think this version of the Andromeda looks way sexier:

http://www.stucki.com/krhen/downloads/Aurora/

(...if it were real. Although I can't quite make it out, as later in the gallery it clearly shows a real facsia and chassis. The top knobs and joystick are definately fake in the first pic, though, along with the wooden end-cheeks. Still sexy as fuk.).

harrystainer
13.03.2005, 12:46 AM
What a beast! :twisted: looks a bit complicated tho...can't imagine what the learning curve is like on that thing

Hollowcell
13.03.2005, 08:01 AM
I think this version of the Andromeda looks way sexier:

http://www.stucki.com/krhen/downloads/Aurora/

(...if it were real. Although I can't quite make it out, as later in the gallery it clearly shows a real facsia and chassis. The top knobs and joystick are definately fake in the first pic, though, along with the wooden end-cheeks. Still sexy as fuk.).

I love it when people do this sort of thing though. I opened up the Nord a few weeks back and realized it wouldn't be that difficult to build a new case for it. Making gear more personal is cool indeed.

Still......Who has the time!?

jasedee
13.03.2005, 11:24 AM
Still......Who has the time!?
Certainly not me!

Merlot
13.03.2005, 04:08 PM
DS,
It is time to just get one of these bad boys. You keep talking about 'em, the TI isnt coming out until 2008, dont know if ou bought the NORD yet, but just freaking get one man!!!! :twisted: :twisted:

F5D
13.03.2005, 05:16 PM
Yes, buy an Andromeda, it makes your life more interesting. You never know what's going to happen when you turn it on. :lol:

F5D
13.03.2005, 05:21 PM
What a beast! :twisted: looks a bit complicated tho...can't imagine what the learning curve is like on that thing
Hah, yep. Axel Hartmann is a crazy engineer! :D

Merlot
13.03.2005, 05:32 PM
Hah, yep. Axel Hartmann is a crazy engineer! :D
Hartmann from Nueron fame engineered the Andro? If so, did not know that one!

F5D
13.03.2005, 10:41 PM
Hartmann from Nueron fame engineered the Andro? If so, did not know that one!

A clip from the www.hartmann-music.com webpage...

"Axel Hartmann

Today a designer known and respected by the music industry throughout the world, Axel Hartmann earned his wings as the in-house designer at Waldorf Electronics. To this day, he remains the creative force behind this German high-end synthesizer manufacturer's corporate design. With the Wave, Q and Attack families - actually, all Waldorf products as well as the company' attention-grabbing corporate identity - to his credit, the merits he garnered there were many. In 1995 Axel Hartmann joined forces with Stefan Leitl, launching a design company based in Ravensburg, Germany. His accounts list reads like a who's who of the entire music industry. Numbering among his most striking accomplishments are the Waldorf Wave, Alesis Andromeda, Steinberg Houston, and Creamware Noah, to mention just a few.

With Neuron, Axel Hartmann has made a long-held dream come true - to develop a synthesizer a breed apart. His determination yielded an instrument boasting uncompromising aesthetics, innovative technology, and a totally ergonomic feel in perfect harmony with Stephan Bernsee's jaw-dropping synthesis engine."

If I understood the text correctly, Hartmann was one of the designers of the andro.

DIGITAL SCREAMS
17.03.2005, 11:44 PM
F5D....how highly do you rate the Andy in terms of satisfying analog sound? You have other analogs right? Just wondering how you think it compares to the others. Sorry if Ive already asked you this before!

DS

tranzash
17.03.2005, 11:58 PM
Some pics for DS, at the bottom click the link deepsonic.ch/2003/htm


http://www.electro-music.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4200

DIGITAL SCREAMS
18.03.2005, 12:02 AM
Thx Tranzash....checking it out now....

DS

F5D
18.03.2005, 08:35 AM
F5D....how highly do you rate the Andy in terms of satisfying analog sound? You have other analogs right? Just wondering how you think it compares to the others. Sorry if Ive already asked you this before! DS

This is not a simple question because the Andromeda is so different from any other analog synth. First toughts may be that the sound is a little crisp. Many of the presets and the patches which can be downloaded from the Alesis homepage have too much resonance. I usually turn it down in most cases. The filters (and the resonance) do sound good but many presets use the resonance too much. But that's not the synth's problem.

Ok, the synth has it's own sound character. It doesn't sound like moog or juno. It lacks the very old hazy vintage sound of the oscillators. It's hard to describe but it doesn't sound a 70's analog, it sounds like today's analog. This still doesn't mean that it doesn't sound good. It just doesn't sound like moog or juno, it sounds like andromeda. And there are so many sound shaping possibilities in andro that you can make very good, different and interesting sounds with one. And it also works as an analog drum machine too. The andro definitely sounds analog and the filters are great but I wouldn't buy it to replace a 70's analog synth.

I'll continue this when I'll get back home...

Merlot
18.03.2005, 08:42 AM
I'll continue this when I'll get back home...

Please do, you've got my attention. CAnt afford one, but defenitely interesting hearing aobut its sonic texture, considering I have never had the chance to get my paws on one. :?

F5D
21.10.2005, 09:51 PM
Well, it has been a while since I promised to continue the story... :D

A demo mp3 gives you better picture than any words. I just recorded a demo with some of my own sound patches (the presets mostly suck ;) ). I played everything mostly wrong but I guess you get the idea: Andromeda demo 2005 F5D (http://www.quandace.com/Andromeda_demo2005_f5d.mp3) :lol:

MADSTATION
21.10.2005, 10:01 PM
Holy fuck.
I never expected the Andromeda to sound like that. Holy titty fuck.

Did I said Holy fuck?

Maybe a bit much verb but still...Nice demo!
Sounds MUCH brighter than the TI(even tho the TI sounds AWESOME).

Damn. Now I want one lol

I knew I should have avoided that link.
But thanks for the demo ;)

F5D
21.10.2005, 10:44 PM
http://www.quandace.com/empire.jpg

Empire strikes back!

Guess who's satellite that is!? :D

Hollowcell
22.10.2005, 12:59 AM
Holy fuck.
I never expected the Andromeda to sound like that. Holy titty fuck.

Did I said Holy fuck?


You sure did there MS. :D

Although that demo does show an unexpected side to the Andomeda, Tit-fucking didn't spring to mind with me. :D Hope I'm normal! Hehehe.


Nice demo F5D. Specially liked the sound at about 2min40 or so.

Were the delay and verb onboard by any chance?

F5D
22.10.2005, 01:18 AM
Great that you liked it! I decided to do a demo because everybody is raving about the TI and hypersaw so much that they don't see the rest of the world anymore. :D

Madstation's comments were great! :lol:

The effects are about: sony r3 eq, logic stereo delay, powercore reverbs, logic compressor, master x3.

The andromeda may sound a little boring if you try one in a music store because the presets are not very interesting at least if you like trance or something like that but it's a great synth if you have time and will to program your own sounds. I've spent many days listening to my favourite trance tracks and replicating the most interesting sounds and when you get the right enlevope and modulation settings, you always get a couple of more sounds just by changing the oscillator waveforms etc. And if the waveform is ok with modulations, you can do a bass, lead, pad, strings and some others just by playing with the envelopes, as you know.

I guess, most of the andro users do minimal electro and some other weird music, ambient etc. but I want to use it for trance. Am I the first one? :D

btw, Hollowcell, do you have an A6 too? I remember somebody else on this board also has one...

Tomer=Trance
22.10.2005, 07:43 AM
Minimal Rox 8O

pure joy of weird sounds and beats.

btw,i prefer hearing some clasic analog brass then tranz leads and pads :roll:

Hollowcell
22.10.2005, 11:57 AM
btw, Hollowcell, do you have an A6 too? I remember somebody else on this board also has one...

Nope not me. No money for big gear spending here. :(

F5D
22.10.2005, 10:10 PM
I made some little changes to the demo, replaced 2 sections with well known melodies and removed some boring parts. The file size is now 17.5MB but the file name and link are the same. In case you're interested...

Onkel Dunkel
22.10.2005, 10:58 PM
btw, Hollowcell, do you have an A6 too? I remember somebody else on this board also has one...

Nope not me. No money for big gear spending here. :(

Taking all the money the little kid is :lol: (did i just write like Yoda speaks 8O )

MADSTATION
23.10.2005, 12:05 AM
F5D: Just listened to the updated version ;)

Great sounds in there.
And also the Powercore reverb sounds really awesome!

Hollowcell
23.10.2005, 12:38 AM
Taking all the money the little kid is :lol: (did i just write like Yoda speaks 8O )

Your turn will come Yoda! :D

The problem is that the Mother doesn't let the money be spent on Dad stuff - the kid is happy wearing the same cloths everyday, not wearing nappys, playing with a toilet roll instead of real toys. It's just the Mum doesn't like these things.

Still though, a new computer is coming - also bought and buying some new outboard and I think I'm wearing her down on the V-synth idea. :wink:

Back to the Andromeda...

Might just go and look around the web to see what they are selling for now.

Drammy
23.10.2005, 11:39 AM
Wow, thanks F5D,

after hearing that demo I am seriously considering buying an A6 instead of the TI!

DS,

Digital Village (http://www.dv247.com/invt/2479)are doing them cheaper than the TI now as well!

I'd actually be saving money and getting a synth that works!


Drammy

Timo
23.10.2005, 12:45 PM
Blimey, yes, the Andromeda appears to sound a lot brighter than the Virus.

Nice one.

How did you program the sound for Corsten's Sublime? That patch is fantastic.

F5D
23.10.2005, 02:21 PM
Andromeda sure has less bugs than the Virus TI but there's one thing you should know. I haven't yet tried to use the andro in multimode or tried to automate the cutoff with midi cc's for example. I have always recorded the cutoff tweaks manually because andro doesn't have a complete midi cc map and the knobs don't send midi cc. However there is a modulation matrix type of system where you can set up to 30 different midi cc's to work with any of the synth's parameters, like cutoff, so I guess you can control the cutoff and others with midi cc's if you want. I will have to test this today. I have been lazy and I haven't tried it yet. In fact I have to try the multimode now too. I have programmed so many new sounds with my andro that I want to use it multitimbrally.

The OS works very well and I haven't noticed anything strange. Some earlier OS's had some worse bugs but the current one is pretty solid. Never had problems or had to reboot the synth.

Also another warning... The synth is _very_ complex at first. It has 5-10 times the parameters of the Virus TI. You can search some of my earlier posts of what parameters can be tweaked. And because it's analog and has so many parameters, the sound programming is sometimes more difficult than with digital synths. You have to be very careful with the parameters. And the presets aren't very interesting if you're into trance but if you like sound programming alot, it's not a problem. The synth is a sound programmer's dream and when you start to understand how the synth works and what tricks you can use it will be the synth which you love the most.

So the andro has it's downsides too but it still is my best synth.

I noticed that I used some heavy equalization when I was making the demo but andro still has alot more high end in the sound. It DOESN'T aliase because every sine tone is pure sine because it's analog. And the filters are amazing, from another world compared to Virus again. Virus sounds very damped compared to andro.

In fact the most exciting moment in my life has been when I took the andro out of it's box and turned the power on. For the first minutes I just looked at it and didn't know what to say. I had a dream earlier that I had one already but woke up without one so I decided that I just have to get one and so I did (after selling some other synths).

How did I program the Sublime sound?.. Well I just listened to the song and tweaked the synth to sound the same. I cannot give detailed instructions right now but it's just a 1 oscillator sound with some modulations. A friend of mine said that the Ferry's own patch sounds more digital. And that may be true because I read that he might have used a nord lead or some other VA synth for the sound.

Andro and TI are totally different kind of synths. With Virus you get tons of great presets, better effects and polyphony but andro gives you more tweakable synth with a pure analog sound.

And remember that andromeda once was a very expensive synth, 3290 euros list price. I paid 2800 euros for mine. If I had lots of extra money, I would buy another and put it under my bed just to wait the day when my first andro breaks. :cry:

Onkel Dunkel
24.10.2005, 04:12 PM
Your turn will come Yoda! :D


Yeah, it?s getting close now. Only 5 weeks left. Actually a bit scarry 8O


The problem is that the Mother doesn't let the money be spent on Dad stuff - the kid is happy wearing the same cloths everyday, not wearing nappys, playing with a toilet roll instead of real toys. It's just the Mum doesn't like these things.


Wooden sticks are also a cheap but effective alternative to expensive toys :D

DIGITAL SCREAMS
24.10.2005, 04:27 PM
My god, the Andromeda costing less than a new Virus. I didnt think id see that day ever come :lol:

Nice mp3 btw

DS

DIGITAL SCREAMS
08.11.2005, 10:35 AM
Heres a few nice andromeda mp3's i found on a Japanese site....

Trancelucent (http://www.alesis.jp/media/Alesis_A6_TranceLucent.mp3)

Into Space (http://www.alesis.jp/media/Alesis_A6_Into_Space.mp3)

DS

Papa
11.11.2005, 01:14 AM
Check my first recorded "freakout" with my # 0069 Andromeda @

www.myspace.com/ghettopixiedust

I did the drums on a Motif Es and all other sounds are from the Andromeda. Eat your heart out!!!

DIGITAL SCREAMS
11.11.2005, 08:18 AM
I dont see your song 'freakout' anywhere on that page m8. You have a direct link?

DS

Papa
11.11.2005, 10:48 PM
Hey DS, I don't have a song titled freakout. I meant freakout as in sitting down with my new gear and just going for it. There are three joints on there. I wouldn't call them songs, more or less just me turning knobs.

Papa
01.12.2005, 05:01 AM
I just can't get over how fat this thing is. The more I play it the nastier it gets. I recommend the A6 to anyone who wants to have endless tweaking with a real poly analog. I've learning that by using the aux outs the machine has a more pure signal. also I don't use the autotune. Can definitely sound fat like a Moog fuzzy like CS80 and lush like Oberheim