just call me bitch

[switchbitch]

Hi, yall can just call me bitch for short. Im producing different forms of electronic music at home (mainly house) with virus indigo 11, akai mpc2000xl and yamaha aw16g. Ive taught myself everything I know, which isnt a lot but considering I knew absolutely nothing before Ive come a long way however Im still very in the dark about alot of things and Im not that up with all the technical jargon, so please be patient with me if my questions seem stupid. I would love to meet up with any others in person in Sydney, Australia which is where I am of course.

[tranzash]

Welcome :)

[Merlot]

WELCOME! Didnt know the indigo was up to version 11! :D :wink: J/K.

[switchbitch]

WELCOME! Didnt know the indigo was up to version 11! :D :wink: J/K. 8O



Yeah its been upto #11 for at least two years. Oh and by the way I am looking at your package and the smily I have attached perfectly describes the effect its having on my brain. I mean I have been hypnotised by many a lunch before but that one takes the cake!! LOL

[jasedee]

~Welcome to Planet Virus~

Ahhh.....A fellow Sydney Sider, and another Aussie to join the ranks. Surely now we must be in a position to overthrow the European dictatorship that is "Unofficial Virus Forum"???

As the potential rulers, we Aussies will accept aliances from other non-EU nations.

:)

[switchbitch]

~Welcome to Planet Virus~

Ahhh.....A fellow Sydney Sider, and another Aussie to join the ranks. Surely now we must be in a position to overthrow the European dictatorship that is "Unofficial Virus Forum"???

As the potential rulers, we Aussies will accept aliances from other non-EU nations.

:)


No, I couldnt be bothered besides Im really not the aggressive type LOL but as I said in my intro I am interested in meeting fellow sydney siders at some stage for collaborations perhaps ,if not to just escape the four walls of my studio where I tend to live these days. What sort of music are you into? what gear do you use? How experienced are you? I would really love to find a mentor whos brain I could pick, In exchange I can offer production, songwriting and vocal skills.Let me know if your ever keen.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Hi Bitch :twisted:

DS 8)

[jasedee]

What sort of music are you into? what gear do you use? How experienced are you? I would really love to find a mentor whos brain I could pick, In exchange I can offer production, songwriting and vocal skills.Let me know if your ever keen.
Music???? Lots of stuff really....been getting into alot of Floyd records, Nick Drake, some folk stuff, but the music I like to produce is breaks, and abstract sound scape/ambient beats. Havent had much time to make my own music lately as I have been recording other bands.

Gear..... I have an Access Virus RackXL, a Motif Rack, Korg X5D. I use a G5 1.6, and there is a whole bunch of other gear (Mixer, compressor, Reverb units etc...) Oh and a really cool Studer analogue console. Bunch of mics, drums, guitars, bass etc....Running Cubase SX and Reason 2.5

Also at Sydney Uni studying acoustics/electronics, so most of my time is being eaten up by study, work (and sleep when I get the chance)

Mentor???? What stuff do you need to know....I cant offer alot of help with the synthesis side of things, I am a novice really, but I may be able to offer some help as far as the Audio Engineering side of things.

Whereabouts in Sydney do you reside?

[AlexHall74]

Welcome to the forum, Bitch!

Have a great time while you're here and best of luck in your endeavors.

8)

-AlexHall74

[switchbitch]

What sort of music are you into? what gear do you use? How experienced are you? I would really love to find a mentor whos brain I could pick, In exchange I can offer production, songwriting and vocal skills.Let me know if your ever keen.
Music???? Lots of stuff really....been getting into alot of Floyd records, Nick Drake, some folk stuff, but the music I like to produce is breaks, and abstract sound scape/ambient beats. Havent had much time to make my own music lately as I have been recording other bands.

Gear..... I have an Access Virus RackXL, a Motif Rack, Korg X5D. I use a G5 1.6, and there is a whole bunch of other gear (Mixer, compressor, Reverb units etc...) Oh and a really cool Studer analogue console. Bunch of mics, drums, guitars, bass etc....Running Cubase SX and Reason 2.5

Also at Sydney Uni studying acoustics/electronics, so most of my time is being eaten up by study, work (and sleep when I get the chance)

Mentor???? What stuff do you need to know....I cant offer alot of help with the synthesis side of things, I am a novice really, but I may be able to offer some help as far as the Audio Engineering side of things.

Whereabouts in Sydney do you reside?


Im at Mona vale ,northern beaches but I have a car. Ok, Id really like to find out more about how to store my arrangements at the moment. As far as storing my multi single programs so that when I choose to work on my song after having been working on something else, I can restore all the sounds etc I cant figure it out. Id really like to learn as much as I can especially about eq, compression. I intend to release my music independently so I just want to be the best I can.

[Merlot]

Id really like to learn as much as I can especially about eq, compression. I intend to release my music independently so I just want to be the best I can.

Read books my friend. Also just sit down and enjoy the experience of making music. Experiment with different fx, eq, and remember to use your ear. Numbers are guidlines, you r ears are the deciding factor! Practice makes perfect!

[switchbitch]

Id really like to learn as much as I can especially about eq, compression. I intend to release my music independently so I just want to be the best I can.

Read books my friend. Also just sit down and enjoy the experience of making music. Experiment with different fx, eq, and remember to use your ear. Numbers are guidlines, you r ears are the deciding factor! Practice makes perfect!


Thanks for the advise but people who state the blindingly obvious and offer no real help really irritate me. I do read heaps of books and I do enjoy the experience of making music.However I do not want to lose the music I have made thus far and books are not enough as they do not deal with specific details of different gear. If somebody was to set up a course for people to learn about different sorts of music hardware ie- virus synths etc. they would make a fortune.b

[Hollowcell]

Another Ausi 8O . We are really taking over. I'm sure the trigger happy yanks and Euro trash of the board are really packing their undies now! :D

Welcome! :D

PS. Great subject header by the way. :wink:

[Merlot]

Thanks for the advise but people who state the blindingly obvious and offer no real help really irritate me.
Easy killer, you came off as a noob by pleading for help and asking for a mentor. I thought I might offer beginner advice, since it seems beginners want to learn everything overnight. That is why I threw out that suggestion. My apologies for irritating you. :roll:

I do read heaps of books and I do enjoy the experience of making music.However I do not want to lose the music I have made thus far and books are not enough as they do not deal with specific details of different gear. If somebody was to set up a course for people to learn about different sorts of music hardware ie- virus synths etc. they would make a fortune.b
What specifically are you wanting to know that you cannot find in a manual and time spent with the machine? Subtractive synthesis is the same priciple whether it is a nord, virus, Q, etc. . . . As long as you understand the priciples behind synthesis, EQ, compression, it should translate from one piece of kit to the next, except for maybe a few additions to certian pieces. I am not trying to bust your balls, just trying to find out what you are wanting to know so I can maybe offer advice. :wink:

[blay]

heya bitch :D

beware of that jasedee fellow - he will have you waxoff/waxon'ing before you know it....

there is lots of info available on forums such as this one for all sorts of gear...
hope you find this one useful.

cheers

blay

[switchbitch]

Thanks for the advise but people who state the blindingly obvious and offer no real help really irritate me.
Easy killer, you came off as a noob by pleading for help and asking for a mentor. I thought I might offer beginner advice, since it seems beginners want to learn everything overnight. That is why I threw out that suggestion. My apologies for irritating you. :roll:

I do read heaps of books and I do enjoy the experience of making music.However I do not want to lose the music I have made thus far and books are not enough as they do not deal with specific details of different gear. If somebody was to set up a course for people to learn about different sorts of music hardware ie- virus synths etc. they would make a fortune.b
What specifically are you wanting to know that you cannot find in a manual and time spent with the machine? Subtractive synthesis is the same priciple whether it is a nord, virus, Q, etc. . . . As long as you understand the priciples behind synthesis, EQ, compression, it should translate from one piece of kit to the next, except for maybe a few additions to certian pieces. I am not trying to bust your balls, just trying to find out what you are wanting to know so I can maybe offer advice. :wink:


apologies accepted, I didnt mean to snap , its just I am nearing the end of my tether at the moment. I admit I have only had my virus for two and a half weeks but I am getting nowhere with this store problem( and I have read the manual which may aswell be written in bloody chinese). Its got me beat.
I am working with an akai mpc2000xl sequencer. When Ive finished my songA which Ive created with the virus indigo11 in multi single mode I want to save all the sounds exactly as they are then work on a new songB with different sounds once again in multi single mode. So what I want to know is firstly how to store everthing the way it is then how to recall it if I want to work on the songA again later. I have done everything people are telling me and it does not happen. I just get the same songA arrangement but it plays the sounds from the new songB. Do I have to store all the sounds individually and then dial them back manually later if I want to use? This means I would have to write down the numbers so surely this is not the way to do it. Also If I store the sounds from songA or from anything I do,do they not overwrite the original factory preset or whichever one I choose to store it to? But what if I do not want to lose the preset? This seems stupid. Why is there not an empty memory bank to store stuff?

[switchbitch]

heya bitch :D

beware of that jasedee fellow - he will have you waxoff/waxon'ing before you know it....

there is lots of info available on forums such as this one for all sorts of gear...
hope you find this one useful.

cheers

blay

whats waxoff,waxon, sounds like fun?

[Merlot]

not at home now so I cant check, but copy and past this into a new post in the problem forum. I guarantee you will have suggestions or answers in the morning. Access employees browse the forums.

Also have you tried to send an email to access support. they are very responsive.

[switchbitch]

in other words , you dont have a #@!$%* clue

[jasedee]

Im at Mona vale ,northern beaches but I have a car. Ok, Id really like to find out more about how to store my arrangements at the moment. As far as storing my multi single programs so that when I choose to work on my song after having been working on something else, I can restore all the sounds etc I cant figure it out. Id really like to learn as much as I can especially about eq, compression. I intend to release my music independently so I just want to be the best I can.
WOW! We are practically neighbours.......

Im not a Virus Expert, but the problems you seem to be having I reckon will be easily sorted out with a little time spent with trial and error.

Send me an email ( jason @ 24bit192k DOT com ) and maybe we can organise something

Good luck!

[switchbitch]

Im at Mona vale ,northern beaches but I have a car. Ok, Id really like to find out more about how to store my arrangements at the moment. As far as storing my multi single programs so that when I choose to work on my song after having been working on something else, I can restore all the sounds etc I cant figure it out. Id really like to learn as much as I can especially about eq, compression. I intend to release my music independently so I just want to be the best I can.
WOW! We are practically neighbours.......

Im not a Virus Expert, but the problems you seem to be having I reckon will be easily sorted out with a little time spent with trial and error.

Send me an email ( jason @ 24bit192k DOT com ) and maybe we can organise something

ok thanks alot, will do.

Good luck!

[ledge]

I am working with an akai mpc2000xl sequencer. When Ive finished my songA which Ive created with the virus indigo11 in multi single mode I want to save all the sounds exactly as they are then work on a new songB with different sounds once again in multi single mode. So what I want to know is firstly how to store everthing the way it is then how to recall it if I want to work on the songA again later. I have done everything people are telling me and it does not happen. I just get the same songA arrangement but it plays the sounds from the new songB. Do I have to store all the sounds individually and then dial them back manually later if I want to use? This means I would have to write down the numbers so surely this is not the way to do it. Also If I store the sounds from songA or from anything I do,do they not overwrite the original factory preset or whichever one I choose to store it to? But what if I do not want to lose the preset? This seems stupid. Why is there not an empty memory bank to store stuff?

What you need to do is when you are working on the songA multi is while in multi/single mode make sure you store all the seperate single patches, then to go from multi/single mode to multi mode then save the multi as "songA" in a slot.

Then you can go back to multi/single mode, change to the patches you want for song B, save all the single patches if you tweak them, then go back to multi mode and then save that as "songB" in a different slot.

What you have to be aware of is that the multi mode just saves the patch numbers of the seperate singles in it and if you go and change and save those single patches when using them alone in single mode or in another multi then the new version will be the one loaded when you reload the original multi. So if you wnat to tweak a patch for a different multi you have to save that patch in a different slot with a different name. Also, if you tweak a patch while in multi/single and don't save the single patch you will lose those changes if you load a different multi then go back to the original.

Hopefully that helps.

[switchbitch]

I am working with an akai mpc2000xl sequencer. When Ive finished my songA which Ive created with the virus indigo11 in multi single mode I want to save all the sounds exactly as they are then work on a new songB with different sounds once again in multi single mode. So what I want to know is firstly how to store everthing the way it is then how to recall it if I want to work on the songA again later. I have done everything people are telling me and it does not happen. I just get the same songA arrangement but it plays the sounds from the new songB. Do I have to store all the sounds individually and then dial them back manually later if I want to use? This means I would have to write down the numbers so surely this is not the way to do it. Also If I store the sounds from songA or from anything I do,do they not overwrite the original factory preset or whichever one I choose to store it to? But what if I do not want to lose the preset? This seems stupid. Why is there not an empty memory bank to store stuff?

What you need to do is when you are working on the songA multi is while in multi/single mode make sure you store all the seperate single patches, then to go from multi/single mode to multi mode then save the multi as "songA" in a slot.

Then you can go back to multi/single mode, change to the patches you want for song B, save all the single patches if you tweak them, then go back to multi mode and then save that as "songB" in a different slot.

What you have to be aware of is that the multi mode just saves the patch numbers of the seperate singles in it and if you go and change and save those single patches when using them alone in single mode or in another multi then the new version will be the one loaded when you reload the original multi. So if you want to tweak a patch for a different multi you have to save that patch in a different slot with a different name. Also, if you tweak a patch while in multi/single and don't save the single patch you will lose those changes if you load a different multi then go back to the original.

Hopefully that helps.
Thanks for the help, Ill try to get my head around that. One more question though, When I save a patch in multi/single mode or in single mode, I am irrevocably overwriting whatever was in the place where I store it correct?

[Gopal]

Hey bitch.

Welcome to the madhouse

If you back up all of your patches into your computer then you don't have to worry about what you overwrite as you can always recall it later.

I would say that alot of the problems you are having would be solved by using a patch editor/librarian like Soundiver. I usually save the 'state of the virus' before starting a new song. If I'm going to be working on a DnB track, then I'll load lots of DnB soundsets into the virus using Soundiver and then get to work. If I want to get back to where I was, I just go back into soundiver and reload my 'state of the virus' save.

Hope that helps bitch!

8) :lol: 8)

[jasedee]

in other words , you dont have a #@!$%* clue
No aggression on here please! We are a friendly, helpfull bunch....

:)

[ledge]

Thanks for the help, Ill try to get my head around that. One more question though, When I save a patch in multi/single mode or in single mode, I am irrevocably overwriting whatever was in the place where I store it correct?

yes, so if you don't want to do that you have to store it to a different slot. You will of course then overwrite whatever was in that slot.

As Gopal said, if you back up all your patches onto your computer this is less of an issue as you can always get the original patch back.

[switchbitch]

In the manual it says that a multi program contains within 16 edit buffers which singles are copied to for editing. If I can store this entire program within the virus to work on later then move to a new multi to work on something new then what is the point of an arrangement dump?
Also if I dump a sound to my sequencer is that like a copy or is the sound totally gone from the virus?

[switchbitch]

[quote=switchbitch]
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What you have to be aware of is that the multi mode just saves the patch numbers of the seperate singles in it and if you go and change and save those single patches when using them alone in single mode or in another multi then the new version will be the one loaded when you reload the original multi. So if you wnat to tweak a patch for a different multi you have to save that patch in a different slot with a different name. Also, if you tweak a patch while in multi/single and don't save the single patch you will lose those changes if you load a different multi then go back to the original.

Hopefully that helps.
So if I have three versions of the same single in my multi I have to save all three to different slots?

[ledge]

So if I have three versions of the same single in my multi I have to save all three to different slots?

that is right, unless you want all three to sound exactly the same :)

[ledge]

In the manual it says that a multi program contains within 16 edit buffers which singles are copied to for editing. If I can store this entire program within the virus to work on later then move to a new multi to work on something new then what is the point of an arrangement dump?
Also if I dump a sound to my sequencer is that like a copy or is the sound totally gone from the virus?

I assume the arrangement dump dumps the individual singles as well as the multi. The point would be if you load that arrangement the singles would be as you had them when you did the dump and any changes since would be over-written, though I am not certain about this.

And when you dump patches it is just a copy of them.

[Doc Jones]

interesting. I am under the impression that a multi just makes calls to the singles. So if you create a multi with 4 different single sounds and then dump that multi to a sequencer, basically it is only dumping the data that says which singles are used and what parameter tweaks you did to the multi, right? so if later on, I go and mess around with one of those singles and store it over the current single, when I dump the original multi back into the virus, it will still make a call to that single (that I had just tweaked), but now the multi will sound different as the single that it makes a call to has been changed. am I thinking about this correctly?

[switchbitch]

interesting. I am under the impression that a multi just makes calls to the singles. So if you create a multi with 4 different single sounds and then dump that multi to a sequencer, basically it is only dumping the data that says which singles are used and what parameter tweaks you did to the multi, right? so if later on, I go and mess around with one of those singles and store it over the current single, when I dump the original multi back into the virus, it will still make a call to that single (that I had just tweaked), but now the multi will sound different as the single that it makes a call to has been changed. am I thinking about this correctly?
That will only happen if you dont save the multi single then you do a program change to a new sound for same part. When you change back the part will call up the address of the sound its refering to so if you have tweaked it then thats what you will hear. But if youve saved it in a different slot to the original it will recall that address instead but you will still hear changes if youve tweaked that one. My understanding is that this will only happen if you do a program change. Just like when your in single mode and you change to new single after editing, when you change back you will hear original sound again unless you saved first. This can quite easily happen when more than one part is using the same sound but then again if your only using 16 sounds or less with no program changes it wont happen. Therefore if you dump an arrangement with 16 parts being used perhaps with same sound more than once then everything will be restored as is when you reload.Its taken me a while to get my head around this but I think the virus is finally beginning to take over my brain. :lol:
Anyways I resolved my problem re sysex midi dump. Thanks to all those who offered there genuine help, Im really embarrased :oops: it was such a simple thing, I had the midi rx disabled, its all working fine now that Ive got a peptic ulcer and migraines :) .