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acid1
26.03.2005, 12:15 AM
I myself bought some laptop that is supposed to arrive april 11th, so that gives me like 3 weeks of waiting for something else.
How the rest of you guys doing? Lol
Well, ive spent the last couple of months speccing and building my new DAW while waiting for the TI.
Its cost a pretty penny but it should be worth it.
Here is the run down of what it features....
Dual AMD Opteron 250 (2.4ghz) E step .90nm cpus
Swiftech H20-120-DB (rev3) dual opteron water cooling kit
Tyan 'Thunder K8WEX' (S2895) Dual Opteron nforce4 pro SLI SCSI version motherboard
4gig (4x1gb) Corsair EEC registered DDR400/3200 ram running (2 for each cpu, dual chan, NUMA enabled)
1x Maxtor Atlas II 36gb 15k u320 scsi drive (main OS drive, dual boot winxp pro(32 /PAE enabled) and winxp pro(64) (ch1 onboard scsi)
2x Maxtor Atlas II 73gb 15k u320 scsi drives (1 for audio programs/vstis - other for audio samples/streaming) (both ch2 onboard scsi)
2x Maxtor Diamond Max plus 10 16mb cache 300gb SATA drives (both for main scsi hard drive backup images and misc file storage) (NCQ enabled)
Silverstone ST64ZF 650watt split plane (4x 12v) EPS12/SSI PSU
Matrox Millennium P650 128 PCI-Express graphics card running dual output at 1920x1200 DVI (in pci-e slot 1 routed through nforce4 pro 2050 to cpu 2)
LaCie 64bit PCI-X Firewire 800 card (in slot A 133mhz pcix slot) (routed through amd8131 to cpu1 bypassing nforce4)
Magma 7 slot 32bit/33mhz PCI expansion chassis (connected to cpu2/nforce4 pro 2200 bypassing amd8131)
RME FireFace 800 (connected to lacie firewire card at 800mbs bypassing nforce4)
4x UAD1 dsp pci cards (all on same IRQ inside magma chassis)
2x TC powercore dsp pci cards (all on same IRQ inside magma chassis)
2x Dell 24-inch 2405FPW LCD (running dual outputs both at 1920x1200 DVI each)
I have all the parts already, just the motherboard now which should arrive next Thursday and then its complete, excited to say the least :)
Should do me good for a few tracks and vstis lol ;)
ten
EnjoyRC
26.03.2005, 01:27 AM
1) I'm participating / organizing a 4 day, 30+ band, concert for April 1st - 4th
2) I have a new CD being released April 1st
3) Busy planning a CD Release party for mid to late April
4) Beta testing a new synth & helping create patches for the final release... No, it's not the Virus TI :)
5) And the thing that will keep me the busiest over the next 3 weeks or so, is emailing Access 5-8 times a day and asking them if it shipped yet.
Gopal
26.03.2005, 01:46 AM
That sounds like one sick pc Ten!
I want one!!!
matsa
26.03.2005, 06:11 AM
You'll have MI5 after you with a machine like that mate.
8)
Tomer=Trance
26.03.2005, 07:57 AM
i just sleep doring most of the day... 8O
inasense
26.03.2005, 02:29 PM
I bought the Vanguard VST Synth. not a bad price either. $89.99. It is helping my music creativity until I get the Virus TI. Really thick synths on this VST.
Check it out:
http://www.refx.net/pro_Vanguard.htm?lang=eng
Derek
26.03.2005, 02:33 PM
This is my first post here; since I?m in the same boat and waiting for my TI I figured I?d chime in. My wait, for lack of a better word, it SUCKs. You see I recently sold my Studiologic 88 key MIDI controller and replaced it with a Roland V-Synth. The V-Synth was fantastic and had huge potential. However My V-Synth was defective and kept losing patches and it would send erroneous MIDI data. So I returned it. Unfortunately now I have no keyboard. So I have nothing to play. I am currently also waiting for the new V-Synth XT. On top of all that, my rock solid Akai DPS 24 started acting up, so now it is out for repair. My studio is a ghost town; big empty spaces where gear once resided.
I console myself with the knowledge that things will be much better when my gear gets in.
Now I?m trying to learn Cubase SX3 so when my gear does FINALLY get here I will be more or less ready to get down to business.
midislut
26.03.2005, 03:43 PM
Well, ive spent the last couple of months speccing and building my new DAW while waiting for the TI.
Its cost a pretty penny but it should be worth it.
Here is the run down of what it features....
Dual AMD Opteron 250 (2.4ghz) E step .90nm cpus
Swiftech H20-120-DB (rev3) dual opteron water cooling kit
Tyan 'Thunder K8WEX' (S2895) Dual Opteron nforce4 pro SLI SCSI version motherboard
4gig (4x1gb) Corsair EEC registered DDR400/3200 ram running (2 for each cpu, dual chan, NUMA enabled)
1x Maxtor Atlas II 36gb 15k u320 scsi drive (main OS drive, dual boot winxp pro(32 /PAE enabled) and winxp pro(64) (ch1 onboard scsi)
2x Maxtor Atlas II 73gb 15k u320 scsi drives (1 for audio programs/vstis - other for audio samples/streaming) (both ch2 onboard scsi)
2x Maxtor Diamond Max plus 10 16mb cache 300gb SATA drives (both for main scsi hard drive backup images and misc file storage) (NCQ enabled)
Silverstone ST64ZF 650watt split plane (4x 12v) EPS12/SSI PSU
Matrox Millennium P650 128 PCI-Express graphics card running dual output at 1920x1200 DVI (in pci-e slot 1 routed through nforce4 pro 2050 to cpu 2)
LaCie 64bit PCI-X Firewire 800 card (in slot A 133mhz pcix slot) (routed through amd8131 to cpu1 bypassing nforce4)
Magma 7 slot 32bit/33mhz PCI expansion chassis (connected to cpu2/nforce4 pro 2200 bypassing amd8131)
RME FireFace 800 (connected to lacie firewire card at 800mbs bypassing nforce4)
4x UAD1 dsp pci cards (all on same IRQ inside magma chassis)
2x TC powercore dsp pci cards (all on same IRQ inside magma chassis)
2x Dell 24-inch 2405FPW LCD (running dual outputs both at 1920x1200 DVI each)
I have all the parts already, just the motherboard now which should arrive next Thursday and then its complete, excited to say the least :)
Should do me good for a few tracks and vstis lol ;)
ten
great specs !!!
:!:
Tomer=Trance
26.03.2005, 04:15 PM
I recently sold my Studiologic 88 key MIDI controller and replaced it with a Roland V-Synth.
why did you replace a wighted keyboard for a synth action one? :?
wouldnt it be a better idea to have a good master keyboard and a desktop version like the V synth xt ?
Nigel Harkness
26.03.2005, 07:09 PM
Well, ive spent the last couple of months speccing and building my new DAW while waiting for the TI.
Its cost a pretty penny but it should be worth it.
Here is the run down of what it features....
Dual AMD Opteron 250 (2.4ghz) E step .90nm cpus
Swiftech H20-120-DB (rev3) dual opteron water cooling kit
Tyan 'Thunder K8WEX' (S2895) Dual Opteron nforce4 pro SLI SCSI version motherboard
4gig (4x1gb) Corsair EEC registered DDR400/3200 ram running (2 for each cpu, dual chan, NUMA enabled)
1x Maxtor Atlas II 36gb 15k u320 scsi drive (main OS drive, dual boot winxp pro(32 /PAE enabled) and winxp pro(64) (ch1 onboard scsi)
2x Maxtor Atlas II 73gb 15k u320 scsi drives (1 for audio programs/vstis - other for audio samples/streaming) (both ch2 onboard scsi)
2x Maxtor Diamond Max plus 10 16mb cache 300gb SATA drives (both for main scsi hard drive backup images and misc file storage) (NCQ enabled)
Silverstone ST64ZF 650watt split plane (4x 12v) EPS12/SSI PSU
Matrox Millennium P650 128 PCI-Express graphics card running dual output at 1920x1200 DVI (in pci-e slot 1 routed through nforce4 pro 2050 to cpu 2)
LaCie 64bit PCI-X Firewire 800 card (in slot A 133mhz pcix slot) (routed through amd8131 to cpu1 bypassing nforce4)
Magma 7 slot 32bit/33mhz PCI expansion chassis (connected to cpu2/nforce4 pro 2200 bypassing amd8131)
RME FireFace 800 (connected to lacie firewire card at 800mbs bypassing nforce4)
4x UAD1 dsp pci cards (all on same IRQ inside magma chassis)
2x TC powercore dsp pci cards (all on same IRQ inside magma chassis)
2x Dell 24-inch 2405FPW LCD (running dual outputs both at 1920x1200 DVI each)
I have all the parts already, just the motherboard now which should arrive next Thursday and then its complete, excited to say the least :)
Should do me good for a few tracks and vstis lol ;)
ten
How much is this beast of a machine setting you back?
Its cost roughly ?4000 ($7600) give or take. Ive been very lucky with some of the parts and got them dead cheap, should last a while though :)
ten
Nigel Harkness
26.03.2005, 07:42 PM
Damn man I wish that I had that kind of money to throw around, I would have gotten a new mini-moog.
Tomer=Trance
26.03.2005, 08:38 PM
or a 40 dsp kyma system.
Nigel Harkness
26.03.2005, 08:41 PM
or a 40 dsp kyma system.
What the hell is that?
matsa
26.03.2005, 09:51 PM
kyma system
Tomer, I just had a look at that Kyma and had a listen to a demo. Have you actually played around with it?
grimleyj
27.03.2005, 12:12 AM
That's funny ... I did something similiar.
Took the money I was saving for the TI and went on a spree last week updating my DAW:
New as of last week:
2 x 250Gb SATA drives configured as Raid 0.
Matrox P650
RME HDSP 9652
3 x Behringer ADA8000
Presonus Central Station
Presonus Eureka
2nd UAD-1 with Precision Limiter
Spectrasonics Atmosphere
ImpOscar
Vanguard )these last 2 may well be a replacement for my Virus they are that good).
I saved the best for last:
2 Dell 24in LCDs:
http://home.comcast.net/~grimleyj/24s.JPG
-grimley
http://home.comcast.net/~grimleyj/
matsa
27.03.2005, 06:20 AM
Grimley
What do you reckon to serial ata? What was your old system?
Cheers
Matt
Derek
27.03.2005, 02:42 PM
I recently sold my Studiologic 88 key MIDI controller and replaced it with a Roland V-Synth.
why did you replace a wighted keyboard for a synth action one? :?
wouldnt it be a better idea to have a good master keyboard and a desktop version like the V synth xt ?
The truth is I never learned to play on a piano; I've always played synth action keyboards. I found that I had to slow the tempo often to play fast parts that could have been recorded at normal tempo with a synth action keyboard. Plus space was the other limiting factor. I like to have all my keyboards in front of me with my monior up front too. I simply don't have enough room for a keyboard synth and a full sized midi controller.
As for the V-Synth XT, well it hasn't been released yet, so I'm also on that waiting list. I just figured out I like NI Kontakt, but a new 2.0 version is being released this month but it still isn't available.... Waiting SUCKS.
I considered myself patient enough to wait for the release of the TI. I pre-ordered the keyboard version in November and won't be charged until it ships. I decided to cancel my pre-order, because I just purchased the V-synth. After much debate with myself about it, I felt like the missing piece was this "sonic mangler". I really love the idea of being able to sample or import anything and in real time be able to freak it and make it sound like no one else. I already have a Motif ES7(for acoustic and drum sounds) Nordlead 2(for va) Juno 60(for analog) and I play guitar and bass, so... The possibilites are infinite. But it won't be complete without a Virus TI. I used to have a Virus kb and sold it to get the TI back in December. I know it will take some time to get to know the V-synth,so I will sit back and see how the first batch of TI's handle and in a few months who knows. A month ago if someone said that I would buy another synth before the TI came out I woud've laughed. I believe I read a post on this sight about the V-synth and that peaked my curiosity. It's not something that can replace the TI, but certainly will add more originality and satisfy my tweak tooth!
Simonb
05.04.2005, 09:23 AM
Well, ive spent the last couple of months speccing and building my new DAW while waiting for the TI.
Its cost a pretty penny but it should be worth it.
Here is the run down of what it features....
Dual AMD Opteron 250 (2.4ghz) E step .90nm cpus
Swiftech H20-120-DB (rev3) dual opteron water cooling kit
Tyan 'Thunder K8WEX' (S2895) Dual Opteron nforce4 pro SLI SCSI version motherboard
4gig (4x1gb) Corsair EEC registered DDR400/3200 ram running (2 for each cpu, dual chan, NUMA enabled)
1x Maxtor Atlas II 36gb 15k u320 scsi drive (main OS drive, dual boot winxp pro(32 /PAE enabled) and winxp pro(64) (ch1 onboard scsi)
2x Maxtor Atlas II 73gb 15k u320 scsi drives (1 for audio programs/vstis - other for audio samples/streaming) (both ch2 onboard scsi)
2x Maxtor Diamond Max plus 10 16mb cache 300gb SATA drives (both for main scsi hard drive backup images and misc file storage) (NCQ enabled)
Silverstone ST64ZF 650watt split plane (4x 12v) EPS12/SSI PSU
Matrox Millennium P650 128 PCI-Express graphics card running dual output at 1920x1200 DVI (in pci-e slot 1 routed through nforce4 pro 2050 to cpu 2)
LaCie 64bit PCI-X Firewire 800 card (in slot A 133mhz pcix slot) (routed through amd8131 to cpu1 bypassing nforce4)
Magma 7 slot 32bit/33mhz PCI expansion chassis (connected to cpu2/nforce4 pro 2200 bypassing amd8131)
RME FireFace 800 (connected to lacie firewire card at 800mbs bypassing nforce4)
4x UAD1 dsp pci cards (all on same IRQ inside magma chassis)
2x TC powercore dsp pci cards (all on same IRQ inside magma chassis)
2x Dell 24-inch 2405FPW LCD (running dual outputs both at 1920x1200 DVI each)
I have all the parts already, just the motherboard now which should arrive next Thursday and then its complete, excited to say the least :)
Should do me good for a few tracks and vstis lol ;)
ten
Holy fuck! 8O You bitch! :lol:
I'm just biting my nails waiting...
midislut
05.04.2005, 02:26 PM
Hi Ten
Are you running Cubase on that machine ?
I kind of gave up waiting for the TI months ago. I've been filling my rack with some cheaper synth modules and I don't regret it. In fact with the price of a TI you can buy lots of different cheaper synths. You can decide whether you buy just 1 synth module or 5 synth modules from which you get alot of different kind of sounds, lots of outputs and polyphony and about 5 times the TI's knobs too. :wink:
Hi midi, yea will be running sx3.
ten
Wandering Kid
06.04.2005, 01:02 PM
seeing as i already have a virus b if i had ?1500 to spend i would do what f5d would - buy lots of modules! expand my options and my working sound palette. i would buy a juno 106, a second hand nord lead 2 and maybe a pair of decent monitors. and still have chump change left over to buy ice cream.
how good is that?!
Derek
18.04.2005, 03:37 PM
Well I have to admit all this waiting was really starting to get to me since I had no keyboards to play. So I did a little shopping over the weekend and picked up two new controllers; A M-Audio Keystation 88 Pro and a Kontrol49 plus I got one free a MS-20 with the Korg legacy Collection software (KLC). I played with the KLC for a few hours over the weekend and I love it? I was hesitant to get involved with software synth after my less than enchanting experiences with Reason. I felt it sounded cardboard? Just not real, but this new KLC is something else. It sounds just like hardware and perhaps even more important to many, thanks to having lots of controllers it feels just like hardware. This is great if, like me, you hate turning knobs with a mouse. It was the free demo version available on Korg?s website that really sold me on it. My confidence in software has been restored. I still have hardware and there will always be a place in my studio for really good hardware synths. The TI is still on my list, provided it can impress me. But now I know it will need to be pretty dam good to compete with the new breed of software that is out.
I also have Native Instrument?s Komplete 2 on order which includes Reaktor 5, Absynth 3, Kontakt 2, Battery 2 along with a ton of other stuff. Granted I do hear that Kontakt 2 is buggy, but all version 1.0s are so no surprise there.
At least now I can satisfy my creative needs. I say, if the wait drives you nuts and you have the cash to spare, look into getting some software to play with. Just make sure you get a good controller to go with it. It makes a world of difference to the whole experience. I think many here will love the KLC, it really is an awesome piece and at $499 will hardly touch your TI fund. You can check out the demo at Korg?s website, I think they really nailed it.
Now for the first time in awhile I don?t really care if the TI takes two weeks or six months to be released, because I can make tunes either way ;-)
I kind of gave up waiting for the TI months ago. I've been filling my rack with some cheaper synth modules and I don't regret it. In fact with the price of a TI you can buy lots of different cheaper synths. You can decide whether you buy just 1 synth module or 5 synth modules from which you get alot of different kind of sounds, lots of outputs and polyphony and about 5 times the TI's knobs too. :wink:
Solid advice.
I never really thought I would cancel my preorder, but the time has come.
I will be contacting my supplier this afternoon to see what sort of deal he can wrangle me on a lead2x and a DS evolver.
cheers
blay
DIGITAL SCREAMS
19.04.2005, 09:40 AM
Blay....im thinking of buying a N2x aswel m8. Just gonna use that and pick up a TI in a years time......
Ive gone off the idea of A6 because I'd like to set some money aside for the TI when it does finally come out
*the upshot of it is.....I need a synth....ive been without one since Sept 4th '04. Thats a painfully long time
DS
I bought a Ghost console with the TI money, and am about to purchase a new laptop. I had the money for the TI since last year, but bought a 2nd-hand Indigo to tide me through until the TI is fully released.
Derek
19.04.2005, 02:03 PM
Wow a lot of people seeing the light here. The truth is there's no sense in just sitting around waiting on the TI to be released. We have no idea what the nature of the holdup is and no way of knowing if we are looking at weeks or even years. Why waste you creative energy being frustrated when you could get something else and use that energy making music now?
Reality check... To date no hit songs have been made on a TI, so we know it is possible to make killer tracks without one. Since I got my new stuff I've been a lot happier. It's great! I'm not waiting for the TI anymore. I look at it this way, if the TI comes out and it's wonderful, then I'll get one, if not or if it's just OK then big deal, at least I haven't wasted all my time for nothing. Don't put you life on hold waiting for some magic product that's gonna make your next song killer. Use your talent to do that.
Believe me, even if the TI is released and is every bit as powerful as hyped up to be, it will still pale when compared to some of the soft-synths out there and they are much less costly.
Fancy gear is nice, but the most important component will always be you. So stop wasting ?you? and find a way to start making music now!
:D
jasedee
20.04.2005, 02:07 PM
even if the TI is released and is every bit as powerful as hyped up to be, it will still pale when compared to some of the soft-synths out there
Ooooh......big call mate!
Anyone fancy a software Vs Hardware debate???? Cos I smells one comin on :)
Anyone fancy a software Vs Hardware debate???? Cos I smells one comin on :)
would be nice for a change of subject anyways :wink:
gimme hardware anyday :D
cheers
blay
If the Ti has importable/customisable wavetables to rival Z3ta+, I'm sold!
Ok, i'll shut up now. :)
If the Ti has importable/customisable wavetables to rival Z3ta+, I'm sold!
just in case you didnt see this post access, i think Timo would like a response to his question in regard to user definable wavetables now. :wink:
cheers
blay
Buy an andromeda, if you think the waiting for the TI gets too long. You won't be disappointed if you have experience in sound programming. Virus sure has more great presets to play with but the andro just sounds so cool. I have been programming some new incredible sounds with my A6 lately. I have now got further into the synth and I can say that it can sound great when you know how to use the modulations etc. It's just so damn complex at first. Now I know maybe 20% of what the synth can do (the basics). There's so much tweaking. I will put a link to a demo mp3 maybe in a near future...
DIGITAL SCREAMS
05.05.2005, 08:08 PM
F5D....yeah..if you get the chance plz post an MP3. Cheers bud 8)
DS
pseudonym
09.05.2005, 03:27 PM
seconded... I'd love to hear the Andromeda.
In fact...
why are we waiting for a digital synth when the Alesis is the real deal for the same price?
Can someone help clear my head about this.. I'm confused, and having doubts...
DIGITAL SCREAMS
09.05.2005, 03:58 PM
The A6 is indeed of the same price....and its also nice to know that when you buy one...it wont be superceeded (ever!). If your after strict analog sounds....then the A6 is naturally a better choice.
DS
pseudonym
09.05.2005, 06:14 PM
that's not what I needed to hear!
I needed to hear:
"...Shut up you dick, Virus TI is the absolute shit. You don't reaaaally need Analogue, especially when the Total Integration increases your productivity and lets you focus more on creative practice than setting up time consuming recording channels/routing..."
... but thanks for being honest anyway... Anyone else considering getting an A6?
nvisibl
09.05.2005, 07:32 PM
:wink:
ACCESS VIRUS Ti:
http://www.access-music.de/download_audiodemo.php4
ALESIS ANDROMEDA A6:
http://www.stucki.com/krhen/andromeda/sounds/
ALESIS ION\MICRON:
http://alesis.com/products/Ion/Demo...iscPrograms.mp3
http://alesis.com/products/Ion/Demos/IonDemo_IonLA.mp3
CLAVIA NORD LEAD 3:
http://www.clavia.se/MP3s/MP3%20fil...0part%20one.mp3
http://www.clavia.se/MP3s/MP3%20files/roadweed3.mp3
CLAVIA NORD MODULAR G2:
http://www.clavia.se/G2/BCHydro420.mp3
http://www.clavia.se/G2/G2strings.mp3
KORG ELECTRIBE EA-1 MK2:
http://www.korg.com/downloads/mp3/EARMKII/EAR_Mix1.mp3
http://www.korg.com/downloads/mp3/EARMKII/EAR_Mix2.mp3
KORG ELECTRIBE EMX-1:
http://www.korg.com/downloads/mp3/EMX1/EMX_BUTRFLYZ.mp3
http://www.korg.com/downloads/mp3/EMX1/EMX_Epic.mp3
KORG MICROKORG:
http://www.korg.com/downloads/mp3/microkorg/ELECTR.mp3
http://www.korg.com/downloads/mp3/microkorg/TRANCE.mp3
KORG MS2000B:
http://www.korg.com/downloads/mp3/M...ckInvention.mp3
http://www.korg.com/downloads/mp3/M..._MusikWerks.mp3
KORG TRITON EXTREME:
http://www.korg.com/downloads/mp3/T...Leanbh_demo.mp3
http://www.korg.com/downloads/mp3/F00synth_Tube.mp3
KORG TRITON LE:
http://www.korg.com/downloads/mp3/t...idnight_Sun.mp3
http://www.korg.com/downloads/mp3/t...e/Deep_Endz.mp3
ROLAND BOSS DR-880
http://www.rolandus.com/Multimedia/...r880/index.html
ROLAND MC-909
http://www.rolandus.com/Multimedia/...c909/index.html
ROLAND FANTOM X:
http://www.rolandus.com/Multimedia/...tomx/index.html
ROLAND FANTOM XA:
http://www.rolandus.com/Multimedia/...omxa/index.html
ROLAND XV-2020
http://ftp.roland.co.jp/pub/roland/...0_U_feel_Me.mp3
http://ftp.roland.co.jp/pub/roland/...tiva_Trance.mp3
ROLAND VariOS
http://www.rolandus.com/Multimedia/...rios/index.html
YAMAHA MOTIF EX:
http://www.yamahasynth.com/demos/motifes/folkthem.mp3
http://www.yamahasynth.com/demos/motifes/trancact.mp3
YAMAHA S03
http://www.yamahasynth.com/demos/s03/eurodemo.mp3
YAMAHA S90
http://www.yamahasynth.com/demos/s90/01Romantic.mp3
How did I spend my Virus TI money?
I bought "Reason" (http://users.tkk.fi/~thpoikon/reason_v2.jpg)
-20 analog outputs
-2 analog + 59 digital voices of polyphony
-114 faders/pots
-207 buttons/switches
-14u rack space
-analog, virtual analog, fm and wavetable synthesis
It also can do the sounds of 5 different synths with completely different sounding oscillators and filters. 8O
Well, if you know somewhere thats selling the virus ti for the same price as reason PLEASE let us know ;)
ten
jasedee
19.06.2005, 10:46 PM
-analog, virtual analog, fm and wavetable synthesis
Analogue????? :?
Edit: Ahhhh......I see! I didnt click on the link :)
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