Plod Rotten. New HC track.

[Hollowcell]

Some of you may be wondering...

"Where did HC get the time to make a new track considering he has just spawned a new baby boy. Surely this is a form of neglect!"

Well I feel that I'm giving him the gift of music (or at least arranged sound) is much more rewarding for a new born than having a father around. :D Am I wrong?!

Anyway....

I've got a new track online (thanks to Juho for hosting it) called "Plod Rotten".

http://www.juho-lepisto.com/Hollowcell-Plod_Rotten.mp3

This is very, VERY different to anything I've done before (production wise and music wise), so some feedback would be nice!

Thanks in advance guys.

[Tomer=Trance]

oh no! this is EVIL!
you posted your track on juho server! you joined forces for good 8O
GOD SAVE US.

(btw im dling it,comments soon to come)


Tomer.

[Tomer=Trance]

ok im back and im sorry to say :oops: but i didnt like it at all.
sounds like a combination of loops and hits and too much "breaking",
no punch line to this track,in one word (this might sound harse)- boring.
i hope youl continue with your bigbeat stuff because i love thos. :D

i hope you will take this as a helping review and not as a bad one m8.

[MADSTATION]

Woah, pretty harsh review Tomer! lol


Personally I really like the structure of the song and all the little details(you understand that groove is based around sound AND silence...very great use of small silences to emphasize the groove)

Very creative, kinda reminds me of some beats the Beastie Boys would rap on :)

Great stuff, I love it

[Tomer=Trance]

in my opinion this track is not finished its just a base for something good that might go on top of it,but im not the producer,steve is 8O

:D

[Hollowcell]

Hehe, thanks for the words of wisdom there Tomer! :D

I was getting really fed-up with the synth music I was coming out with recently (so generic), so this one doesn't use any synths at all. Also, no four beat rythms probably doesn't help your opinion. :wink: Oh and by the way, there are no straight loops at all.

Appriciate the feedback Madstation! It's weird you mentioned the Beatie boys as I was listening to them just before getting into this track! 8O

Anyway, more comments please! Specially about the production aspect too. :D

[jasedee]

Sorry HC....My net connection to my computer is down and has been for some time. Damn routers......

My dads PC is fucked and has no decent speakers, but maybe I will try to D/L anyway and then transfer to my computer for analysis.

Seems like a controversial number from the comments so far.....looking forward to hearing it.

[jasedee]

OK......I managed to D/L it.

Great track!!!!! Very different to your usual stuff, and I think this is a good thing as you are pushing your boundaries and trying something new, instead of being complacent and sticking to what you know.

Once again....Nice track mate! Drum programming is sweet as always, and the use of samples throughout is gold. On the production front, the only ting I thought is that the first guitar kinda sample (not sure what it is) came in a little loud.

Great work......

:)

[Hollowcell]

Thanks for listening Jase!

I hear what your saying about the initial guitar sound. Maybe I'll try automating a soft EQ or fader - even a filter might go well.

Yep, gotta try new things and have fun with music. Sticking to one genre isn't good at all.

Anyway, I'm glad you liked it. It is getting mixed responses all over (the actual music, not production). The people here that are die hard synth heads don't think much of it, but the hip hop guys and sample manglers like it. :D

[Juho L]

Really nice. Much fresher in all aspects than your previous tracks. Eww... Now there are some nasty dissonances. Tune those samples a bit, please. I'd like to hear more bass boom on the drums just to get more thick sound. Always works well with this kind of stuff.

Where are the samples from?

[Hollowcell]

That's probably the nicest review I think you have ever written for one of my tracks Juho. I'm shocked! 8O

The original mix had more oomph with the kick drum actually, but in the final mix and master it sort of got washed out. Maybe if I pull it appart again, I'll work on that area.

The samples are all single hit samples taken from a mate's 70s funk record collection (except the drums), then I played them in using amp sims and delay heaps. The only ones you may be able to recognise are from a Kool and the gang track - although it's almost impossible to pick because of the layering. The little "yeah" hit that pops up now and again is actually a vocal taken from some weird Arabic chants - my mate has a full 12" of the stuff!

Thanks for listening Juho. Thanks for putting it online too!

[Merlot]

Just listening now mate - Sorry I have been on vacation for the past 10 days

- Nice mangling work.
- Dig the hits on top of the guitar samples.
- Breakdown is fucking sweet with the horns. All you need to add now is a james brown screaming sample on top.
- Fuckin great track man. Really loving this one. I think it is one of the top ones you have produced.
- Great drum programming.

Ace track mate :o

[Merlot]

Track is in itunes now!! I wouldnt mind giving this a shot at remixing. PM me HC!!!!

[Hollowcell]

Glad you liked it Merlot. I'm getting some contrasting opinions on it for sure! Everyone seems to like the beats though. 8)

I'll send a PM to you soon. :D

[Fasttracker]

I like the song up untiul it reaches 55 seconds, i don't like that sound that comes in , also beyond the 55 seconds it get's a bit repetitive , the sounds change i know , but the break kinda get's stuck in a loop.
But i like the groove of the track , it sounds really sample-based but i like it , kinda funky (with the trumpets and the ooooh! and all) ya know .
Greetz...

[Hollowcell]

Thanks for listening fasttracker!

Yeah, I don't do sample based stuff alot, so this was an experiment into the unknown. Fun track to make though. :D

[AlexHall74]

Hey HC!

I have finally gotten around to checking this one out.

I like it!

It is definitely different than the music you have posted on Electromancer which is fine because I like both styles.

It is definitley "Beastie-esque" but it has a bit more of an electronic feel than a hip-hop feel.

You should play with this one and add some different stuff in to see where it gets taken just for kicks as it is a new sound for you.

Your drums always kick ass Bro!

The horns rock too!

All in all I like it; good job!

Now go give that baby boy a bottle you derelict music junkie!

Take it easy Bro! :wink:

-Alex

[Hollowcell]

Thanks for taking the time to listen Alex. :D Always good to get some more feedback.

Ahh the baby. I am bloody stuffed! I hope he sleeps normaly soon. 8O

Anyway thanks again for listening mate. I'll have to give an update on the kid in another thread. He's full of beans now!

[AlexHall74]

HC wrote:
Anyway thanks again for listening mate. I'll have to give an update on the kid in another thread. He's full of beans now!

Sleep?

Meh!

Once kids then no sleep!

Full of beans, eh?

Just like Daddy...OR Mommy??? 8O

Chill out my Bro!

I've been around that block twice and I swear:

EQUILIBRIUM WILL RETURN (although a bit different than before...) IMHO BETTER!!! :wink: :D

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

HC...I like your tracks.....mostly because they are very original sounding (something I respect greatly). How do you make your drum loops? Do you use any pre-sequenced loops...or do you make all your drums from scratch using sample hits? At the moment Im trying to make drum patterns of my own using a freebie piece of software called Buzz (Buzzmachines). Ive downloaded samples of kick drums, high hats etc etc. But making good useable drum loops of my own is pretty time consuming...and to be honest...quite hard. So, do you have any tips for a drum novice like me?

Cheers bud

DS

[tranzash]

Really like the jungle kind of snares and kicks. Hehe, you should really increase the tempo and add some bassy hoovers. Is that a roland synth that you playing the kicks and snares?

[Hollowcell]

HC...I like your tracks.....mostly because they are very original sounding (something I respect greatly). How do you make your drum loops? Do you use any pre-sequenced loops...or do you make all your drums from scratch using sample hits?

No I don't use any pre-sequenced loops. In this track I used old school breaks chopped into single hits, then I layer them in the sampler and play them live. A few of the snares and high end are clean modern rock samples though. That subby kick on the first beat was a seperate sample too.

My drum tips for DS.

Always record kicks and snares on seperate tracks.
Never over compress (depending on the genre).
Never quanitze everything - maybe just the 16ths.
Gate high end to emphesize groove (also gated-verb is good for high end and snares).
And layer and pitch your samples.

Hope this helps you DS.

Really like the jungle kind of snares and kicks. Hehe, you should really increase the tempo and add some bassy hoovers. Is that a roland synth that you playing the kicks and snares?

I used the roland precussion pad to trigger the sampler, but I didn't actually use any sounds off it. Infact some of the snares in this track I've used for the past 10 or 11 songs, I just pitched them, FXed them and layered them a bit differently.

Thanks for taking the time to listen guys! Appriciate it. :D

This track has gotten the most mixed response from anything I've ever done I think. I'm glad most people like the beats though.