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stereo_type
14.05.2005, 04:56 PM
hey this is probably a noob question ;) but can you tell me what all the cables connected to their virus (not the midi in/out cables) is good for..? are they connected to their mixer.. or how does it work.. ?

thx!



http://anjunabeats.com/pics/album02/Studio15.jpg

Juho L
14.05.2005, 05:01 PM
With only MIDI cables connected you wouldn't hear a thing from the synth. MIDI is jsut a control signal. The audio cables very likely go to a mixer or to a soundcard.

Timo
14.05.2005, 05:16 PM
Yeah, it looks like a full on "loom" there. (8 cables together)

The virus has 6 individual mono outputs, and 2 audio inputs.

stereo_type
14.05.2005, 05:23 PM
Yeah, it looks like a full on "loom" there. (8 cables together)

The virus has 6 individual mono outputs, and 2 audio inputs.


well does it mean you can have virus sounds on different mixer channels? how many is possible? like bass on one and lead on another channel ? :)

Tomer=Trance
14.05.2005, 05:54 PM
exacly.
you can define which of the outputs the channel will use.

Hollowcell
14.05.2005, 11:46 PM
Yep, you can even split the effects from the synth-part and run them out on a seperate channel too.

techno_7
15.05.2005, 08:38 AM
Did you know?

MIDI is 1 's and 0's!

001110000101010000010001110000
0100001010101000001010101010101

That could be a midi signal!!!

F5D
15.05.2005, 06:26 PM
If I remember right, they send everything to the computer (running logic) first for effects processing (they have UAD1 for example and use it alot) and use the analog desk to finally mix the whole project. They don't use the Logic's digital summing but send all the tracks to the desk and mix in analog form. They may output some of the synths directly to the desk too but I'm not 100% sure.

Kill me if I'm wrong. :lol:

In fact that's something I will do someday too...

Tomer=Trance
15.05.2005, 07:10 PM
analog summing is nice...

some people pay top dollars for an analog summing device.

Juho L
15.05.2005, 07:15 PM
some people pay top dollars for an analog summing device.

"We professionals call it a mixer"*

*Derived from a Finnish TV history classic: Matti Kyll?nen was reporting a formula race and Keke Rosberg was a commentator. Matti: "And what's now?! There are smoke coming out of the jets on JJ's car!". Keke: "We professionals call those jets exhaust pipes"

techno_7
15.05.2005, 08:09 PM
some people pay top dollars for an analog summing device.

"We professionals call it a mixer"*

*Derived from a Finnish TV history classic: Matti Kyll?nen was reporting a formula race and Keke Rosberg was a commentator. Matti: "And what's now?! There are smoke coming out of the jets on JJ's car!". Keke: "We professionals call those jets exhaust pipes"

Weird.

jasedee
15.05.2005, 10:56 PM
Actually Juho.....there are a number of "Analogue summing units" for sale these days, offering a cure for digital mixes.

It's the latest "fad" out there for people mixing "in the box". Supposedly you can get better results by sending a bunch of stereo mixes from the computer out to one of these analogue summing devices, than if you were to mix entirely from the computer.

They tend to be of better quality than your average Mackie desk, but I think the differences would be negligible. If you can mix well, then an analogue summing device wont improve things that much, and if you cant mix well, then there is no saving your mixes.

Tomer=Trance
16.05.2005, 11:55 AM
daw mixing is very common now days but people are still looking for that neve\ssl analog console sound.
just send everything on one side get pure honey on the other side.


just something i was wondering jase.
do analog summers have multiply outputs (seround..) ?

jasedee
16.05.2005, 12:04 PM
daw mixing is very common now days but people are still looking for that neve\ssl analog console sound.
A summing device wont do this though.......you will need a Neve for that!

just something i was wondering jase.
do analog summers have multiply outputs (seround..) ?
I dont think so.....well, not the ones I have seen anyhoo.

Timo
16.05.2005, 01:49 PM
daw mixing is very common now days but people are still looking for that neve\ssl analog console sound.
just send everything on one side get pure honey on the other side.


just something i was wondering jase.
do analog summers have multiply outputs (seround..) ?

Decent mixers have direct outs on all channels, and 8-bus mixers also have, er, 8 busses (each with direct outs), in addition to the stereo out. :)

Juho L
16.05.2005, 01:56 PM
Hmm... Isn't it trivial to sepperate mixers and "analog summign devices" as the mixers are analog summing devices. I assume that this "analog summign device" doesn't have faders, but still it's a mixer.

Seeyou
16.05.2005, 02:49 PM
Did you know?

MIDI is 1 's and 0's!

001110000101010000010001110000
0100001010101000001010101010101

That could be a midi signal!!!
Well... that could be a digital audio signal as well...

...a very short one though :lol:

Seeyou
16.05.2005, 02:58 PM
Hmm... Isn't it trivial to sepperate mixers and "analog summign devices" as the mixers are analog summing devices. I assume that this "analog summign device" doesn't have faders, but still it's a mixer.
I prefer "mixer" rather than "analog summing devices". It's more relaxing for the fingers while typing :D

techno_7
16.05.2005, 05:20 PM
Did you know?

MIDI is 1 's and 0's!

001110000101010000010001110000
0100001010101000001010101010101

That could be a midi signal!!!
Well... that could be a digital audio signal as well...

...a very short one though :lol:

Cool! I didnt know that!

jasedee
17.05.2005, 05:28 AM
Hmm... Isn't it trivial to sepperate mixers and "analog summign devices" as the mixers are analog summing devices. I assume that this "analog summign device" doesn't have faders, but still it's a mixer.
Stop picking nits Juho! When one says, "I just bought a mixer" it conjures up images of faders, EQ's, Aux sends/returns, Master outs etc....

When one says, "I just bought an anlogue summing device", what you would see is a 1 rack unit, plain box, with 8 ins and 2 outs on the rear.

Plus.....these analogue summing devices usually are of high quality, costing up to and above US$2000. Whereas a Mackie mixer with similar I/O costs peanuts.

Hollowcell
18.05.2005, 01:01 AM
I had never heard of these analogue summing devices until now either! Learn something new everyday. :D