Changing Virus Rams/Roms

[techno_7]

Is it possibe?

I mean like an extension card?

[Panopticon]

For what purpose? Sounds like you're thinking in ROMpler territory...

[techno_7]

Maybe. This is my first vintage synth so please forgive me for my stupid newbie questions :?

[jasedee]

Maybe. This is my first vintage synth so please forgive me for my stupid newbie questions :?
Vintage?

[techno_7]

Damn.

Doesnt vintage mean physical?

[Hollowcell]

There's not really any need for plug-in ROMs, when it's easy to install new banks from standard midi sysex. Expansion cards are usually for machines that need wave data.

[AlexHall74]

As per dictionary.com:

2 entries found for vintage.
vin?tage ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vntj)
n.
The yield of wine or grapes from a vineyard or district during one season.
Wine, usually of high quality, identified as to year and vineyard or district of origin.
The year or place in which a wine is bottled.

The harvesting of a grape crop.
The initial stages of winemaking.

Informal.
A group or collection of people or things sharing certain characteristics.

A year or period of origin: a car of 1942 vintage.

Length of existence; age.

adj.
Of or relating to a vintage.
Characterized by excellence, maturity, and enduring appeal; classic.
Old or outmoded.

Of the best: played songs that were vintage Cole Porter.
Of the most distinctive: ?Fatalism has coexisted with vintage American overconfidence? (Thomas Oliphant).

I bolded/italicized the portions of the definition that could be specific to the Virus synth.

Maybe you meant "hardware" or "virtual analog" synth?

:wink:

[AlexHall74]

HC wrote:
There's not really any need for plug-in ROMs, when it's easy to install new banks from standard midi sysex. Expansion cards are usually for machines that need wave data.

OK, here is where I have a question.

I have often wondered as to what the compatibility of foreign synth patches with Virii were.

For instance, several synths can create patches via MIDI Sysex, right?

So, if someone creates a cool set of banks on an "ABC123" synth and then dumps it into MIDI Sysex, can I load it into my Virus C?

AND

If it can load will I have the same power over those presets via the multitude of knobs, FX, filters, OSC, etc. as I do on "native" Virus patches?

Oh pleeeeeeease say yes! 8O

[Tomer=Trance]

in thory the patch midi data is just parameter data and "instructions" to this parameters.

how about trying and let us know :wink:

[Onkel Dunkel]

I don?t think it will work. Some parameters may mean one thing in the Virus and another in the "ABC123" synth.

[techno_7]

Somthing defanetly will happen.

But its not going to be the same sound if the 2 synths have different parameters.

For example if "ABC123"s parameter 20 means cutoff? How would that sound on a virus.

[AlexHall74]

techno_7 wrote:
Somthing defanetly will happen.

But its not going to be the same sound if the 2 synths have different parameters.

For example if "ABC123"s parameter 20 means cutoff? How would that sound on a virus.

This is what I feared.

Wouldn't it be fekking cool if there were some standardization of such parameters?

Maybe not for hardware manufacturers... :wink:

-Alex

[Onkel Dunkel]

Well anyway the patch wouldn?t sound the same at all due to the different components and DSP-programming. Futhermore "synth A" maybe has 2 LFO?s and "synth B" has 3 LFO?s (and different destinations), "synth A" has 2 oscilators and "synth B" has 3 oscilators, maybe the mod-matrix is more extensive in "synth A" than "synth B", etc. etc. etc...

[Panopticon]

No, it really wouldn't work at all. System Exclusive data, as implied by the term, is exclusive to the machine you're dealing with, and the OS on that machine. It would be sort of like dumping an executable set of instructions for Windows into OS X. There's a lot more to a patch than simple MIDI that could be interpreted by any synth. However, people have had the idea before of a universal system, hence: General MIDI. And we know how that sounds...