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technomonster
06.06.2005, 04:30 AM
well,

As far as i can make out from reading the few posts about the editor, it seems that this is what is causing the delay.

I therefore have started a new thread, hopefully so that BEN and MARC can give us some insights as to what is coming out as far as the software editor side of the TI is concerned.


There was also a COMMENTs ABOUT IN OTHER THREADS, - it being stand-alone and it not being stand-alone.

If they are trying to get it to fit in with LOGIC, Cubase and the rest.
crikees with my limited experience in music technology it might!!!!!!!!! mean heaps and heaps of upgrading in the future.

I for instance use LOGIC 5.5 on PC, simply because I bought the stuff before the bad news from APPLE.

I also love the color and the design of the 5.5 interface, and find it fantastic to work with, as it is perfect on the eye , so as not to distract one at all from music composition. I much prefer it to Logic 7 although the new features of it (7)are phenomenal. I just wished they hadnt changed the great look (just my opinion).
Anyway I am hoping that ACCESS are not writing the software for just mcintosh LOGIC. i am in real shit :( :( :evil: there IF THATS THE CASE.

Cant work out why it cant be stand-alone. oh boy I could be in financial trouble if this is the case.

also what about the not so famous sequencer packages out there. will they be useless for the awesome TI.

cant believe how good the demos are.
i believe the TI could be a huge seller. just wish it could make an editor which is stand-alone. maybe MIDIQUEST might come up with one.

(Every thing I have wrote is from a guy who is at the beginnings of trying to work out how all this works, so I might have written uninformed stuff here)

Tomer=Trance
06.06.2005, 07:49 AM
im guessing the logic version will be AU,pc logic does support au doesnt it?

Midi_Glider
06.06.2005, 09:23 AM
AU is MAC only.


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midi.

jasedee
06.06.2005, 12:20 PM
I truly doubt that they will offer support for older PC versions of Logic.

merlyn
06.06.2005, 03:52 PM
Ben basically said in the other thread that the editor is not a stand alone. I can't quite understand why they decide to make host only either since Soundiver was stand alone. Maybe once we get our hands on it, we'll understand a bit better.

torpor
06.06.2005, 05:06 PM
some points:

a: the plugin is vst on PC, and vst+au on Mac.
b: even plugins can be run standalone with 'hosting environments', thus alleviating the need to write a 'standalone' version of the editor. an example hosting app (for mac, dunno for PC) is AULab..
c: the reason this is cool is that plugins can be strung together... so now the TI enters that mix, directly.
d: the TI rocks.

;)

technomonster
06.06.2005, 05:09 PM
THIS IS what is written in the VIRUS TI manual - available on-line.

System Requirements::::::

The VirusControl plug-in is available for the MAC (AS audio Unit or VST instrument) as well as for the Windows PC platform (as VSTi). There are no specific system requirements: VirusControl should run within any professional host program.
As long as the host programs runs smoothly, so will VirusControl


i hope that means that LOGIC 5.5 for PC users will have no problems.

hope not!!!!!!!!. cant see how they can make just specific software editors for specific sequencer programs.

there are a number of sequencers out there and they surely couldnt keep up with sequencer development for even just APPLE LOGIC, CUBASE and a few more of the favorites. crikees they couldnt get the first attempt right.

so i hope it is a simple VSTi plug in.

gees i hope ben or marc can reply on this soon

ten
06.06.2005, 05:37 PM
As Logic for PC was discontinued quite some time ago now you can bet Access will not be supporting the TI software on it at all (I personally doubt it will run on it anyway, 5.5 was crap)

If you are seriously planning on running the TI with logic on a PC I would prepare yourself to be extremely disapointed and/or pissed off.

I hope this is not the case and maybe someone from Access could confirm it, again though I very much doubt you will see the TI working on Logic for PC at all, ever.

ten

technomonster
06.06.2005, 06:33 PM
actually, all this lack of information about everything to do with the TI is starting to hurt. i was going to originally buy ACCESS VIRUS C but decided to get the fabulous TI WHICH IS C PLUS ALL THE REST.

it was going to be the main compositional tool in my set up. now i am just in pain, not knowing what to do.

it just hit me then - we are in JUNE and thats heaps more months before a release of my music can happen.

my goodness i hope it comes out real soon. and i certainly hope it works with LOGIC 5.5 on PC.

ben crosland
06.06.2005, 07:15 PM
Stop panicking! The Control will work with Logic 5.5 on the PC :)

It will also work with Fruity Loops and Ableton Live.

If you want a simple host on the PC, try Audiomulch (http://www.audiomulch.com). I use this quite a lot as one of my test environments, and there is almost always a free beta version available for download.

Whilst the Control currently doesn't work as a standalone, this doesn't mean never will.

merlyn
06.06.2005, 07:20 PM
Thanks for the addendum Ben.

technomonster
07.06.2005, 01:39 AM
actually, all this lack of information about everything to do with the TI is starting to hurt.

i could have said p**s*d *ff, murde***s, f*****g angryous, irritated to f*****g death :wink: (but i think ben and access have read heaps of those.)

but now with ben croslands answer i am again a happy little vegetable :D :D :D :D .

i thought that it might be the case after sneaking a peak at the on-line manual.

i had already made plans to rob a bank to pay off for a new macintosh computer :wink: and planned to buy heaps of milk to cope with the new logic 7 interface design. i am starting a petition for apple to give us a 5.5. or 6 version as a choice as the interface design, like 5.5. gives us a choice of Logic 3 look.

i wonder how many here thought that the 5.5 design was real cool and tough. and that they shouldnt have changed it. maybe its just me.

the 5.5. look, on a flat screen, also at a reasonable dark setting really makes one feel that the screen is almost not there and so easy to just listen to the music from the speakers.
does anyone think that this is important as well.

Timo
07.06.2005, 01:44 AM
the 5.5. look, on a flat screen, also at a reasonable dark setting really makes one feel that the screen is almost not there and so easy to just listen to the music from the speakers.
does anyone think that this is important as well.

Would be nice if the Virus Control was skin-able. Would love a clean Polar/Indigo theme. :) Am not one for dark backgrounds, really. Does my eyes in.

technomonster
07.06.2005, 12:55 PM
i would like to ask ben one more question.

will the TI actually come out or have ACCESS decided not to release it and start on VIRUS TI 2nd edition.

boy, gees that sounds like a ridiculous question but i am really concerned now.

Midi_Glider
07.06.2005, 03:10 PM
will the TI actually come out or have ACCESS decided not to release it and start on VIRUS TI 2nd edition.

mmmm...no.

You usually got to have a first edition of something in order to progress to a 2nd edition of something.

the biggest access problem ATM is not about releasing the TI or not releasing the TI, but actually about releasing any info regarding the TI release or its current state of testing...
:lol:




Best,
midi.