Music in a 100 years

[techno_7]

What will happen to music in a 100 years?
Will new exiting music devices be invented?
Will it become boring and hated by the people?
Post propositions here.

[Tomer=Trance]

it sure wont be enterteinment as we know it.
maybe two electrods attached to your head trasfering images and sound.
expiriencing trips without taking any drugs.

[jasedee]

experiencing trips without taking any drugs.
And no hangover??? Now where's the fun in that?

[Tomer=Trance]

you can do it the old fasion way if you like :wink:

[mas]

maybe you still get a kind of electric brainfuck.

[jasedee]

maybe you still get a kind of electric brainfuck.
Well.....I certainly hope so! :roll:

[Hollowcell]

Juho would have pissed off enough musicians to create the mother of all backlashes against him. Trance will be the only music created by electronic artists. Also "real" musicians will be forced to play straight 4 beat rythms with layered detuned guitars, because playing anything else will give Juho's some joy.

So, Trance it is. Bring on those hyper-mega-superdooper-saws! :D

[Tomer=Trance]

grammy awards 2076:
"and the winer for the best hyper-mega-massive 300 detuned supersaw osc's lead used in a trance track goes to.... "

[Hollowcell]

grammy awards 2076:
"and the winer for the best hyper-mega-massive 300 detuned supersaw osc's lead used in a trance track goes to.... "

Hehehe, classic Tommer! :D

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

I think about this from time to time. Sometimes I gain insight when I listen to Vagelis's BladeRunner soundtrack......some of the tunes sound very futuristic and 1930's all at the same time. Pure genious. That soundtrack never dates or gets stale.....in my mind its the best representation of where music might be in 100 yrs time

I cannot see people still using synths and making the same elctronic muic to the same rules. I think one day....someone will invent a new standard....new scales....new chords.....ones which may sound strange but become acceptble to use. Its an interesting fact that chords and their progressions only sound 'pleasing' to us because its so ingrained in our brains to hear those harmonics. It is quite possible to use strange combinations of chords...and then over time for them to seem as normal as C majors.

What do you think....

DS

[pseudonym]

people will be listening to generative music created by artifical intelligence software/robots they've created themselves - artist/musician/programmers unite.

[Onkel Dunkel]

I think about this from time to time. Sometimes I gain insight when I listen to Vagelis's BladeRunner soundtrack......some of the tunes sound very futuristic and 1930's all at the same time. Pure genious. That soundtrack never dates or gets stale.....in my mind its the best representation of where music might be in 100 yrs time

I cannot see people still using synths and making the same elctronic muic to the same rules. I think one day....someone will invent a new standard....new scales....new chords.....ones which may sound strange but become acceptble to use. Its an interesting fact that chords and their progressions only sound 'pleasing' to us because its so ingrained in our brains to hear those harmonics. It is quite possible to use strange combinations of chords...and then over time for them to seem as normal as C majors.

What do you think....

DS

If this is true then i wonder why the chord system havent changes through the last 2-300 years. I belive that we find a basic chord sound nice because of psysic laws. The frequensies match together in a way that our ears like because the frequensies "sing" together. I think we will still make 98% of our music in 4/4 with basic major and minor chords. The thing that will change is the sound. We will mix music catagories so that new will be made. There will be 100% acustic trance and they will scratch their way through clasical music. Everything will be as it is today just mashed up and mixed together in all thinkable (and unthinkable) ways. And we will mix it and play it in surround...

Edit: oh yeah, and the new "Virus Brainwave" will be out. Think of a sound and there you go. No more tweaking :cry:

[tk]

Edit: oh yeah, and the new "Virus Brainwave" will be out. Think of a sound and there you go. No more tweaking :cry:

baaahh, that old thing 8) oh.. look.. a black helicopter up there in the sky...

:D

[Logic Circuit]

They will probably be going through a 2080's revival!

In the 1970's they said we would be living on the moon by now.
I can barely afford to live on the Earth!!

[Onkel Dunkel]

Edit: oh yeah, and the new "Virus Brainwave" will be out. Think of a sound and there you go. No more tweaking :cry:

baaahh, that old thing 8) oh.. look.. a black helicopter up there in the sky...

:D
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Music is only going to go to the next level of creativity when America finally realises all those little aliens and let them do the music....Star Wars style

DS

[Tomer=Trance]

i dont think little aliens have any kind of culture all they do is blow up planents and fly around with their bigass spaceship. :D

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Tommer....where do you think Access got their slogan 'Access universe and Starship Access' from? Aliens have already been here and they influence companies to make musical instruments.

DS

[Onkel Dunkel]

Yeah, why do you think the theremin was invented :lol:

[Tomer=Trance]

so teenagers back in the late 40s like bob moog would have something to do with their past time? :roll:

[Onkel Dunkel]

so teenagers back in the late 40s like bob moog would have something to do with their past time? :roll:

No dammit. He was obducted and had a chip planted in his brain making him use his spare time to make to create it wierd new instruments so that the film-makers could produce realistic sound tracks for sci-fi movies in the 50?s. By the way i don?t think "Leon Thermin" had Bob Moog?s spare time in his mind when he created this lovely instrument...

[nvisibl]

In 100 years time we will all have evolved enough in our sensory perceptions to be able to hear colour and shape.

You heard it here first :wink:

[Tomer=Trance]

i think we will be able to do an upgrade to our hearing system so we can hear sub bass frequencies and finaly be able to truly use the (up to 40khz) adam monitors. :D
but honestly,i think surround sound will be implanted deeper into contemporary music.

[~+?]

:D "Music 100 years from now" Opps edit :? Music in 2105 will take on a whole new meaning to the human race. New types of synthesis and advancements in sound will develop to a level of perfection. The new music to us it would sound disorganized and abstract but at the same time very catchy and addictive and It will have very powerful effects on the psyche. The music?s new purpose will be to elevate the mind and body to ecstasy and levels of higher consciousness. Humans will live longer and the brain will expand with the advent of the new music. Time travel will become possible.

[Timo]

100yrs, eh?

2105.

I reckon humans would have programmed computers in such a way as to let the computer create brand new tunes by itself based on formulae that relate to known human-emotive elements of music. The resultant tunes of which would be perceived as catchy, fresh, and enjoyable to listen to.

However, I don't now think there are many, if any, new genres to be 'discovered'. Before now, genres have seemingly come about due to new technologies being found, or slowly introduced over a long time line.

To put it crudely, in order of discovery, something like...

Crude resonance > drums, percussion, etc.
Tuned acoustic resonance and/or Mechanical > Piano, strings, organ, etc.
Electricity > amplification (guitars, PAs, etc.), analogue synthesis, effects, sampling/recording (vinyl, tape), mixing, etc.
Electronics > digital synthesis, extensive sampling and sound manipulation, computers and computer processing/sequencing, sound simulation/modelling, total recall, etc.

I don't think there's anything as revolutionary to music than the introduction of electricity/electronics was back then, for us, that might happen in the future in such a way as to create completely new genres.

Instead, I think time will just see cross-matching and refinement of current techniques and genres.

[~+?]

Music is and has always been and always will be a carrier of human intent and imagination. Over time this will not be lost. It will be understood and organized in a new way, as it has been done in human history with the advent of new sounds and music and times and experiences. Space travel will start a whole new style of music; humans will express the new experiences of space into music.

[ben crosland]

I reckon humans would have programmed computers in such a way as to let the computer create brand new tunes by itself based on formulae that relate to known human-emotive elements of music. The resultant tunes of which would be perceived as catchy, fresh, and enjoyable to listen to.


My dad used to work in computers back when they were all spinning tapes and stuff. I once asked him this question as well - would they ever be able to make computer software that could write a good tune? He quoted a colleague of his who said it's "..About as likely as good joke-writing program.!" ;)

[Gopal]

I won't say its already been done, but the major record labels do have a piece of software that contains the melodies and chord structures/progressions etc from all the top 40 hits of all time and can analyse your song and tell if it will be a hit or not !!!

The software predicted Nora Jones to be a huge failure!
I think it just forgot to factor in the "old people with really bad taste that like seeing young girls perform" factor :P

[Timo]

I reckon humans would have programmed computers in such a way as to let the computer create brand new tunes by itself based on formulae that relate to known human-emotive elements of music. The resultant tunes of which would be perceived as catchy, fresh, and enjoyable to listen to.


My dad used to work in computers back when they were all spinning tapes and stuff. I once asked him this question as well - would they ever be able to make computer software that could write a good tune? He quoted a colleague of his who said it's "..About as likely as good joke-writing program.!" ;)

hehe, nice one. :)

I'm with you on pop music, but I guess even now in 2005 it could be possible to program computers to create simple stuff like ambient trance and mood music by themselves.

I think physical modelling, overall, also has a huge wealth of potential growth and discovery left to explore, though. For instance stuff like accurately modelling the piano, and the human voice, all without sounding unnatural or resorting to samples. This would probably be one of the last things to develop and perfect due to the intensive DSP power needed, not to mention expensive R&D. I guess convolution is partly heading that way to model things like EQ, reverb etc, although audio samples are still required to do this, but this doesn't touch vocal or piano modelling.

However, 100yrs is a long time in technological terms. Look how far we've come even in the last 10, especially regards computer fire power and the software that runs on it.

[Smag]

All this fascinates me, do you think it would ever be possible to picture a sound in your head and then use an ultra sensitive brain mapping device and powerful DSP to render it onto a keyboard to be played?

..... and then chorus added? :lol:

[~+?]

Yea I do think that?s the direction synth designers will be going in many years from now. Maybe dream recording and play back will be available at that time as well. Also experience records and players will replace the TV DVD.