Novation products

[MADSTATION]

I decided that I had enough with waiting for the TI so I'll be getting a few other things instead :)

A lot of Novation users in here?

I'm wondering if the Novation KS4 engine is similar or the same as the NOVA/Supernova engine since I'm not sure what to get between a Nova II and a KS4.

Thanks

[Tomer=Trance]

the Ks is monotimbrale (1 midi channel).
i would say try the nova 2 insted.

[MADSTATION]

I'm talking about the KS4 which is multitimbral (4 parts and 16 voices) which is not bad for what I need.

But yeah the Nova II seems like a sure bet!

[Merlot]

The V-station is the same engine as the K-station. Give it a whirl before you buy the hardware. You might save yourself some $$ to put towards other gear. :lol:

[ten]

Get a Nova X II if you can (49 key version of the Supernova 2) You can pick them up on sospubs for about ?400 and they are great little boards. I personally think the novas have a better sound than the KS range. A bit more darker, grittier, harsh. The KS stuff is a bit light and poncy ;)

ten

[Hollowcell]

I'd say if you're thinking of the K range, you're better off going with the V-station.

The Nova range do have a differenet sound I rekon. I haven't researched why though - maybe it's my ears playing tricks on me.

A mate of mine has a Nova and I really liked the thing. When I played the K station after playing the Nova I was dissapointed.

[blay]

Give it a whirl before you buy the hardware. You might save yourself some $$ to put towards other gear. :lol:

:lol:

anyone up for a game of 'spot the bass station'?... :wink:

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/SEISMIC%20CHUNK/novation.jpg

its not even that good at gathering dust :roll:

cheers

blay

[Gopal]

I've got a Nova (16 voice) and a Bass Station rack (original one)

I love the Nova and use it all the time. The bass station collects dust and the only reason I haven't sold it is because of the midi to cv gate converters that I plan on using to control my SH101 when I get it

[Tomer=Trance]

the only reason I haven't sold it is because of the midi to cv gate converters that I plan on using to control my SH101 when I get it

hehe i heard that story far too many times. :wink:

[Timo]

Isn't the BassStation (moreso the Superbassstation) meant to be a 303 clone, or something? Is it VA or true analogue?

[Tomer=Trance]

its a VA,nothing analog about it.

[Panopticon]

its a VA,nothing analog about it.

Sorry Tomer, but you're wrong on this one. It's analog. That's the reason the plug-in sounded so different. Please read:

http://www.vintagesynth.com/index2.html

edit: sorry, link doesn't point you right to it:

"The Bass Station is an incredible little synth and was an instant success when released. It is a monophonic analog bass synthesizer and is basically the first new analog synth to hit the modern music market. It is great at recreating classic TB-303 lines and fat Moog tones. Every control from the original synths can be found on this: ADSR, VCF, VCA, oscillator sync modes, tuning, and LFO! And most of these can be MIDI controlled."

[Tomer=Trance]

sorry but i think novation are rather misleading about this.
check out the manual they dont realy say word by word its pure analog.

vcf can easly be analog emulated filter.

anyhow i could be wrong on this one. :wink:
it would be nice to see a new version of the bass station with builtin 303 style step sequencer with an affordable price,299 maybe :D

if they like they could include a drum station engine aswell into it for a total tb-tr machine.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

In my opinion the KS4 wins over the Nova II. The KS4 sounds a little brighter, less glassy and has more clarity. Id also say that it sounds subjectively warmer...in a VA kinda way. I used a KS5 at one time....

Now, If your wanting to know how it sounds...then I strongly recommend you get this >> http://www.howardjones.com/adverts/dvd/dvd.html Its a great dvd....spanning 3 1/2 hours. There are 4 sets in total (acoustic, retro, electro and band). In the electro section you see him playing 4 Novation KS4's and KS5's.....and it gives you a real idea to how they sound.

DS

[MADSTATION]

Thanks a lot guys :)

I decided to get a KS4 for now and then, if I really like Novation's sound I'll get a Supernova II. I tried Vstation and really liked the sound(really bright and crisp, would complement very well a virus) so I'm pretty sure I'll really like the KS4.

I'll let you know what I think about the synth when I receive :)

Once again, thanks a lot!
Hopefully that will keep me from being depressed about TI for a while hah

[Matt]

I own a KS5 and it can make some great sounds, but don't ask too much of it as the polyphony is not massive. If you have saws in unison and more than one such patch on a performance, the sound starts dropping out and clicking if 3 or more keys are pressed.

[MADSTATION]

Matt: I don't plan to use unison in the writing stage, I will only do if I have to in the recording stage :)

Mostly I wanted that synth so that I could plan out my tunes without running into cpu issues :)

[F5D]

What I know, the super bass station's oscillators are va-modeled. However the filter, noise, chorus and distortion are all analog circuitry. That's why the sound is more powerful than any digital novation's sound. I use my super bass station for basslines almost in every project.

I also have a supernova2, which is a great sounding digital synth. I use it mostly for pads and all kinds of lead sounds. Supernova has a limited set of oscillator waveforms (pulse, saw and double saw) so it cannot do as many different kind of sounds as virus for example but the sounds which the supernova does can be very powerful. I like the overal tone of the synth. I also like the filter & distortion. You can make quite good tb kind of sounds with it too. However the super bass station does them better because of half analog design.

[URBAN J]

F5D has the correct info on the SuperBass Station. And it does sound real heavy. The bass is very full, almost (but not quite) in the moog territory. I owned the new Novation synths (nova and supernova), but returned them a few days later. I guess I was expecting a Polyphonic BASS STATION>

[Tomer=Trance]

maybe you should try modern analog polys.