Edirol R-1

[techno_7]

What do you think of this one? Saw it in a magazine, it looks awesome! But is it 430 dollars worth?

http://www.edirol.com/products/info/images/r1.jpg

[vvanrij]

Its a digital recorder with fx?

[techno_7]

Digital recorder/fx/mp3 player

Main Specifications

Audio Input/Output
Input
Internal Microphone (stereo)
Stereo Microphone
(1/8" phone jack : plug-in powered compatible type)

1/8" Stereo Line Input

Output
1/8" stereo phone jack,
Headphones (1/8" stereo phone jack),
S/PDIF 1/8" phone optical type (same port as Headphones)

Recorder/Player
2 Tracks (1 stereo track) Recording data format WAV, MP3

CompactFlash(tm) card Up to 2 GB capacity

Audio Effects
1. Easy EQ (11 presets)
2. For Speech
3. Voice Perform
4. Editable EQ (10 Band EQ : 32/64/125/250/500/1k/2k/4k/8k/16k Hz)
5. Noise Reducer
6. Hum Noise Cut
7. Reverb
8. Int-Mic Rec. (Mic Simulator Optimized for Built-in Mic)
9. Ext-Mic Rec. (Mic Simulator for External Mic)
10. Mastering
11. Center Cancel
12. Tuner
13. Metronome


Weight
205 g / 8 oz
(excluding CF and batteries)

Dynamic Range: 83dB
S:N 93 dB

Nominal Input Level (adjustable)
Mic input: -40dBu
(input level set to maximum)
Line input: -10dBu
(input level set to maximum)
Input Impedance
Mic input: 6.8 k ohms
Line input: 100 k-ohm

Maximum Output Level (adjustable)
9 dBu (output volume set to maximum)

Recommended Load Impedance
32 ohms

Frequency Response
20 Hz--20 kHz (+/- 2dBu)

Residual Noise Level
(input level set to maximum/output
volume set to maximum)
-84dBu

Signal Processing
AD/DA conversion 24 bit / 44.1 kHz

Power Supply
AC adaptor (included) or Battery Rechargeable Ni-MH AA x 2 or Alkaline AA x 2. R-1 has no charge function.

Battery life
Playback: approximate 6 hours, Recording: approximate 2.5 hours

USB
USB 2.0 Storage device (WindowsXP/2000/Me, MacOS9.2 or MacOS X, OS standard driver)

Display
20 x 2 character display

Accessories
CF Card 64 MB,
AC Adaptor Roland PSB-6U type,
Carrying Case,
Owner's manual

Dimensions
99.25 (W) x 134 (D) x 30.2 (H) mm / 3-15/16 (W) x 5-5/16 (D) x 1-3/16 (H) inches

Options
Headphones Roland RH-200/RH-50

[vvanrij]

8O 430dollars for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

does it run nuendo 3? :roll:

[techno_7]

8O 430dollars for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

does it run nuendo 3? :roll:

Keep in mind that i have no mic(over 10$) and would really like one. Besides, my minidisc player is broken.

[vvanrij]

Ahh come on, just save your money, get a nice lil mic and a preamp and you'l have better quality for less munny

[techno_7]

Then i'd only be able to record at home!
I appreciate your oppinion but i'd like a PORTABLE mic and i wanted to know if this is a good one. Sorry if i haven't explained myself good enough.

[vvanrij]

Yes kinda misunderstood you there :D Thought you just wanted to be quick with an all in one :?

Anyway, can't really help you on this one, I'm more of a studio guy :wink:

-VR :D

[pDc]

I would have concerns about...

Mic quality:
I have never heard of a proffessional-standard internal mic. Can it really be good?

FX:
FX shouldn't be it's best feature.
My experience tells me that onboard 'extra' FX can be pretty average.
You can get all the VST FX you want anyway.

Storage:
Comes with just 64MB storage?!
That will get you 5 mins of recording. A nice 2GB card will set you back another $50.

Pick up a quality mic for $100
Do a little research and find out which portable MiniDisc recorder has a good reputation for its recording and buy one on Ebay.

I'm not a fan of all-in-one solutions.

[Gopal]

How can you compare a shitty MD player to a 24 bit recorder :?:

[vvanrij]

Well, its true that they have a semi-pro reputation, plus these new Sony HMD or something (1 gig capacity's) record high quality and are cheap :D

No point in recording 24bit, if you are using an internal 'stereo' mic :P

-VR

[techno_7]

No point in recording 24bit, if you are using an internal 'stereo' mic :P

Depends...the recordings i've heard on their site are actually really good. Anyone know any alternatives to this? I mean, i know i dont need the fx but it seems that this is the only good(new) recorder on the market to me.

[jasedee]

So what will you be using it for???

Just curios....

[techno_7]

To record. You see, i dont have a labtop, and i dont want to be limited to only home recordings. I want to be able to bring it places, record atmospheres ect.

[jasedee]

I would say that spending your money on this would be a complete waste.

You would be better off buying a portable DAT recorder, and a decent stereo/MS rig. Perhaps something like Rode NT4.

You wont get the desired results with something like this, it will be sub-par.

[pDc]

How can you compare a shitty MD player to a 24 bit recorder :?:

I didn't say it was shitty.

Newer portable Sony Hi-MD Minidisc systems can record in high quality.

Either in uncompressed PCM (wav-like) format or as 256kbps ATRAC3, which is pretty much equal to mp3.

Not that a 24-bit digital recorder is much use for an internal mic anyway... :P

Oh and each 'Hi-MD' Minidisc is 1GB. A lot more capacity than this Edirol comes with.

[techno_7]

I get your points, and i decided to get a Hi-MD along with a stereo mic.
Thanks for saving me 100$ :D

http://electronicgiant.com/catalog/images/portable/recorders/MZ-RH10.jpg

[vvanrij]

Your friends is what you can count on :D Good luck with the recordings!

-VR

[Khazul]

I get your points, and i decided to get a Hi-MD along with a stereo mic.
Thanks for saving me 100$ :D



Does that sonY contraption actually play mp3 or does it convert them on upload?

Sony allways seemed to have something against mp3 in the past and kept trying to push their own format.

Ive been looking for a convenient contraption for capturing ideas etc.

[Khazul]

I get your points, and i decided to get a Hi-MD along with a stereo mic.
Thanks for saving me 100$ :D



Does that sonY contraption actually play mp3 or does it convert them on upload?

Sony allways seemed to have something against mp3 in the past and kept trying to push their own format.

Ive been looking for a convenient contraption for capturing ideas etc.

[vvanrij]

No, I think sony still uses the ATRAC3 format, its a bit better than mp3 quality/size wise.

-VR

[techno_7]

Yeah all their MD's go with it but i think some of them also supports wav.

[Khazul]

No, I think sony still uses the ATRAC3 format, its a bit better than mp3 quality/size wise.

-VR

It may be better when you convert directly from CD or other non-mangled source.
But it its mp3 - then further conversion can only get worse.

I got a creative zen as a freebie a while back and use that for now - it does have one *huge* advantage tho - as well as mp3 - it natively supports windows media formats as well.

The only issue with it for me is while it does have a mic on it and can record, recording is fiddly to get at and the result is crap if you are trying to capture melody ideas etc when away from base.

Still - it makes for a useful final mix check for mp3s - sound quality aint great, but its representative of an average mp3 player.

[vvanrij]

If you compare 2 types of compression, it should be obvious that you don't compare em compressing each other 8O

-VR