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Phlegethon
23.09.2005, 11:09 PM
Hi,
I was just wondering that what is the retail price of TI going to be? (in Europe and America)

The official Access distributor in Australia - "Innovative Music", they charge $3900 AUD (2500 EURO!!! $3000 USD) for TI desktop and $5300 AUD (3400 EURO!!! $4000 USD!!!) for Polar

http://www.innovativemusic.com.au/Products_frame3.htm?access_products.htm&2

I prefer to buy TI from overseas, I know that there is going to be a warranty issue, but I will try my best not to support filthy australian industry. The price is just criminal.

Do you guys know any reliable european or american stores that can take overseas orders?

Thank you in advance

Khazul
24.09.2005, 12:32 AM
Lots of good dealers in Europe - but I think most will only ship within Europe.

UK proces for the keyboard and polar is 1499 UKP and 1199 for the desktop.

Oddly the virus is one of the few synths where the europe price is actually allmost sensible relative to US prices.

Normally we get ripped off.

Doc Jones
24.09.2005, 01:02 AM
those are criminal prices!!!
I used novamusik.com to purchase my virus c in the past and just used them to purchase the TI desktop. Their price is $1895.00 US

MADSTATION
24.09.2005, 01:11 AM
I got my TI POLAR for 2295$ USD from Novamusik with free shipping to Canada...Not a bad deal :)

Doc Jones
24.09.2005, 01:42 AM
Madstation, that's a very good price. If memory serves me correctly, that price is about 400.00 less than what they have listed on their website. Is that because you did a preorder?

i3
24.09.2005, 04:45 AM
got a desktop for $1595.00 USD in dec 2004.

Phlegethon
24.09.2005, 09:00 AM
Thanks guys,

Does Novamusik accept overseas orders?

Timo
24.09.2005, 11:30 AM
Thanks guys,

Does Novamusik accept overseas orders?

I think they may do, but if you're in Europe don't forget to add customs duties and VAT to your budget, and also the higher shipping fee.

Often, after considering all that lot, it's sometimes just easier to get it here with not that much of a price difference. Also bear in mind technical/customer support could sometimes be a pain in the ass if you buy from a different continent and later have problems with the gear, along with high shipping costs.

If you're buying abroad, remember to check for the supported voltages too, although most well-designed new machines these days have an auto-voltage detection circuit already within them so you don't have to do anything. Others require flicking a switch. And the rest require exchanging the power supply unit.

Tomer=Trance
24.09.2005, 11:48 AM
I think custum duties couse the virus price to rise by 20-30% in australia.
in that case ordering it from europe will get you the same price after you pay the tax for it.
this may be profitable only if you pysicly transfare it inside australia and avoid being checked by custum or trick they somehow by ordering it from europe and make them write something like secondhand on the box or something that will again... help you avoid paying tax. :D
its tricky but possible! :wink:

Doc Jones
24.09.2005, 12:24 PM
got a desktop for $1595.00 USD in dec 2004.
yeah, that is what I preordered back in Nov 2004, but their website shows a different price now, so I wasn't sure if they were going to honor the older preorders.

grs
24.09.2005, 12:58 PM
I think custum duties couse the virus price to rise by 20-30% in australia.


I think its more like 10-15%, thats what I paid extra for an Edirol R1 I had shipped from USA [audiomidi.com]
I also have a pre-order for the TI desktop with them.

My virus b I bought while on a trip to Germany and just racked it up in my luggage like I'd always had it.

MADSTATION
24.09.2005, 01:45 PM
Doc Jones: I ordered last year and they said they will honor the price I was supposed to pay back then instead of the price on their web site.

So far I have an excellent experience with them, hope to get the synth soon and in good shape and I'll make sure to shop again with them :)
They are even sending a free gift(I had to choose from a dual filter bank, a stereo comp, a basic emu card or the vstation!)

u4ia
24.09.2005, 03:43 PM
I am also buying my TI Polar from NovaMusik and I have had nothing but good experiences with them.

They are honoring the price they had posted on their website way back in November ( I think it jumped about $300 more in December) and like madstation said they are offering a choice of free items for apologies for the long wait which is cool.

Not sure if they do stuff for overseas but definitely the best shop I have found if you live in the US.

Doc Jones
24.09.2005, 03:47 PM
Fantastic!! I had placed my preorder back in Nov 04 as well when the price of the desktop was 1595 rather than the 1895 that is now listed. I will give them a call today about the complimentary gift. This deal just keeps getting better and better. :)

blay
25.09.2005, 01:47 PM
the prices you listed are RRP for AUS... you can get them a hell of a lot cheaper than that. im getting a keyboard for the price you listed for the desktop in melbourne (which still doesnt compare to the US RRP :roll: )

cheers

blay

blay
25.09.2005, 02:20 PM
i just noticed turra music in syd is advertising $4899 RRP for the polar and $5299 RRP for the keyboard version 8O :roll: what the ?

Royalston
25.09.2005, 10:03 PM
Hey
Im an aussie- I ordered my TI from Novamusik last year. It works out to be about $2300 AUD. I paid immediately because our dollar was up. Novamusik will mark products as a gift/ commercial sample upon request (which I have) so no import duty is required - Which is usually $65 AUD import tax plus GST on the item's value) Its still way cheaper than Sydney. As much as I like supporting local suppliers Ive generally only had bad experiences..They rip us off so badly here.

As for your warranty, Ive sent many a synth to the licensed Access warranty repair place. Its up in Dee Why. They are really dodgy. I forget their name right now, but everything Ive sent there to be repaired has come back in the same state. They pretty much do most of the repairs for warranties on synths in the sydney area.

Royalston

ledge
25.09.2005, 11:09 PM
i just noticed turra music in syd is advertising $4899 RRP for the polar and $5299 RRP for the keyboard version 8O :roll: what the ?

If Oz is anything like NZ it will be much much cheaper to order from the states and get one shipped over.

When my brother in law bought the Virus C, DIGI002 and a couple of other things he ended up saving around NZ$8000 all up including shipping and paying GST on the costs. If he had bought the same gear from NZ retailers he would have paid $12000 all up.

It seems that the official distributors, at least in NZ, are money grabbing bastards, as he knows the guys who sell DIGIs in Christchurch and they said that that is cheaper than they are getting the gear for.

solconnection
26.09.2005, 12:11 AM
Hey
Im an aussie- I ordered my TI from Novamusik last year. It works out to be about $2300 AUD. I paid immediately because our dollar was up. Novamusik will mark products as a gift/ commercial sample upon request (which I have) so no import duty is required - Which is usually $65 AUD import tax plus GST on the item's value) Its still way cheaper than Sydney. As much as I like supporting local suppliers Ive generally only had bad experiences..They rip us off so badly here.
Royalston

thats a good price matey....i got mine slightly cheaper from www.synthplanet.com but i probably will have to pay the 10% gst customs dutie so that will put the price up to about $2500 delivered (postage + gst + purchase)....still pretty happy with that price compared to the dodgy aus stores though :)

have a nice day
-Dan

Gopal
26.09.2005, 04:44 AM
i just noticed turra music in syd is advertising $4899 RRP for the polar and $5299 RRP for the keyboard version 8O :roll: what the ?

If Oz is anything like NZ it will be much much cheaper to order from the states and get one shipped over.

When my brother in law bought the Virus C, DIGI002 and a couple of other things he ended up saving around NZ$8000 all up including shipping and paying GST on the costs. If he had bought the same gear from NZ retailers he would have paid $12000 all up.

It seems that the official distributors, at least in NZ, are money grabbing bastards, as he knows the guys who sell DIGIs in Christchurch and they said that that is cheaper than they are getting the gear for.

Yeah, the prick that imports them into NZ is a right rip-off bastard, tried charging me like $4295 for a virus B when they were discontinued!!! Ended up getting one sent over from the UK for less than $2000

Khazul
26.09.2005, 02:04 PM
Yeah, the prick that imports them into NZ is a right rip-off bastard, tried charging me like $4295 for a virus B when they were discontinued!!! Ended up getting one sent over from the UK for less than $2000

Comparing UK prices to the US prices - I would be tempted to say a similar thing about UK retailers.

Theres alot of gear that you can end up paying at double for here in the UK. It gets even more depressing when the price in UKP is more then the USD, for eg Alesis Fusion - 1799UKP and yet in the US its 1699USD - at current exchange rates that about half price :(

merlyn
26.09.2005, 03:22 PM
I paid $2300 US for mine (preorder in December).

Phlegethon
26.09.2005, 05:19 PM
I am from Melbourne, indeed we get ripped off all the time in Australia, all the prices are much much higher than anywhere else in the world.

And personally I NEVER had any good experiences with ANY of the Australian retailers, I found out that there is NO such thing as Aussie Warranty, they send the broke items back to the manufacturers or official repairers overseas, which takes centuries, you d better do it yourself!! normally it would not take more than 4 weeks instead of a couple of months if you ask them to do it!

Australian customer services are extremely slacky and dodgy, once they have got your money, they just say - "Thank you, and goodbye" / "Now you can f**k off, its not our responsibility any more lol!" If the item breaks, and you ask them about warranty, they would treat you just like you stole the goods from them.

After more than 10 years of bad BAD experiences with Aussie music stores, this is what I relised -

Buying from Australian retailers = Absolutely !!NO!! warranty and (-)customer service.

Even eBay is more reliable than them.

Sounds like Novamusik is a good option.

ledge
26.09.2005, 07:32 PM
And personally I NEVER had any good experiences with ANY of the Australian retailers, I found out that there is NO such thing as Aussie Warranty, they send the broke items back to the manufacturers or official repairers overseas, which takes centuries, you d better do it yourself!! normally it would not take more than 4 weeks instead of a couple of months if you ask them to do it!


Interesting, the DIGI002 that we had had a fault with the power supply that meant it would power cycle regularly while using it, having bought it from the states was not a problem as it had an international warranty. So I brother in law who was going to oz for a holiday anyway took it over with him to save on postage and dropped it off at a shop to go get repaired (all organised with Digidesign before hand).

It ended up taking around 4 months to arrive back and when it did the fault was still present. Called up Digi in the states and the guy at customer services was shocked. There turn around for repairs is meant to be 48 hours maximum. So he got his supervisor to call me and Digi paid for a new unit to be couriered out from the states and they paid for the old unit to be couried back to them. Took three days to have a working unit in our hands again.

And for this reason I would never hesitate to buy from digidesign :)

Gopal
26.09.2005, 11:05 PM
It ended up taking around 4 months to arrive back and when it did the fault was still present. Called up Digi in the states and the guy at customer services was shocked. There turn around for repairs is meant to be 48 hours maximum. So he got his supervisor to call me and Digi paid for a new unit to be couriered out from the states and they paid for the old unit to be couried back to them. Took three days to have a working unit in our hands again.

And for this reason I would never hesitate to buy from digidesign :)

You will often find this to be the case. The actual repair people are slack/too busy/don't give a fuck, but the manufacturer doesn't realise this until they get feedback from YOU.

Whenever a piece of equipment goes in for repair, email the manufacturer and tell them the details of the fault, where you sent it, date etc. Every time you have correspondence with the repair agent, make a record of it and email this off to the manufacturer with an update on your repair. (often as easy as CCing them the email).

This way, if the repair is taking ages, the manufacturer will already be aware of it and will be kicking the repair agent in the arse from above.

Pity it is necessary with some service agents but this approach guarantees you service 8)

soulidstate
27.09.2005, 09:05 AM
Hello!

For those who have not ordered yet,grab it from this store.

http://shop.synthplanet.com/store.lasso?c=other&newlang=en&-session=shop:C0E8450416a2119BC1gIi3CC5349

They beat the price of any store for the polar and keyboard. US$2054 Desktop is US$1549

regards,
em

DIGITAL SCREAMS
27.09.2005, 10:24 AM
TI keyboard = ?1,499 UK

That would mean $3,500 AUD. You say $5,200......that sounds like a massive ripoff. Shipping would not cost that much . That store is wanting to make a huge profit on a desirable synth. Fuck them...

Incidently $5,200 AUD is ?2,250 UK. Hmmm.....thats a good ?750 more than it is in the UK. That'd buy you a new Nord 2X aswell. You australians are getting ripped off.

DS

grs
27.09.2005, 02:07 PM
Hello!

For those who have not ordered yet,grab it from this store.

http://shop.synthplanet.com/store.lasso?c=other&newlang=en&-session=shop:C0E8450416a2119BC1gIi3CC5349

They beat the price of any store for the polar and keyboard. US$2054 Desktop is US$1549

regards,
em

Looks like the pricing for when they first came out!
This link might get you there quicker...
http://www.synthplanet.com/product.lasso?pr=35840

jasedee
28.09.2005, 07:01 AM
You australians are getting ripped off.

DS
You're telling me!!!!! This is why I often buy from OS, or just get second hand

obliterations
28.09.2005, 08:46 PM
I was able to get a desktop Ti for 1400$ at Guitar Center (USA). However I had a friend who worked there back in July who gave me the deal upon manager approval. They still are making money off my purchase. Its paid in full and I'm waiting...

Good luck on your purchases!

soulidstate
06.10.2005, 12:48 AM
TI kb and p0lar @ $1995!

http://shop.synthplanet.com/store.lasso?c=other&newlang=en&-session=shop:C0E84504188fd05FEDsqm2B2D6A9