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DIGITAL SCREAMS
05.10.2005, 02:37 PM
Any issues or concerns....plz post in this thread. Lets keep it to the point and descriptive so that the guys at Access can understand whats going on.

Cheers

DS

ekimeno
05.10.2005, 02:47 PM
Cool...

OK - so I have the Polar being used with the following setup: G5 iMac with OS X 10.4.2 with 1.5Gb RAM using Digital Performer 4.6 with projects at 24-bit/44.1kHz. I also have a Motu 828Mk2 as the main audio interface and a Lacie Porsche 250Gb firewire hard drive. This is what's happened so far...

v1.01 - Polar set up without a problem and the AU plugin can be used on an instrument track - full control between the virus and the plugin. Open up 1 or several midi tracks and midi recording is enabled and works fine. Audio can be recorded from output 1+2 on the virus through the 828 or as Mix track via the USB cable. Only problems are CPU overhead - regularly between 40% and 60% with occasional spikes into the red at 100% - this is with a latency of 256 samples. If I bring this up to 512 samples, CPU is now at 30 - 50% with no red spikes. The CPU overheads are noted with 1 Ti plugin and 1 24/44 audio track as a backing track.

v1.02 - Still the same CPU overhead, but now, while playing the song, if I change a patch while DP is playing, DP crashes every time. Now can hardly do anything without DP crashing on me.

Despite these niggles, the Polar sounds amazing - definitely in on a new level over the Virus KC. BTW - I have used several normal VI plugins and up to 20 audio tracks at the same sample rate in DP and never get a CPU overhead of more than 50%. Similarly my Nord G2 never gives me any problems with this either. In fact DP has been the most stable DAW I've used - this is the first time I've experienced so many crashes.

Any other Mac/DP users out there that can help?

tk
05.10.2005, 06:00 PM
Any issues or concerns....plz post in this thread. Lets keep it to the point and descriptive so that the guys at Access can understand whats going on.

Cheers

DS

The best thing you can do is opening a ticket on our support system.

http://www.access-music.de/?go=supportmail

Don't forget to fill out the fields about your computer, host you are using and software and driver versions.

We do not regularily watch this forum so addressing support directly is the most time saving way.

tk

ekimeno
05.10.2005, 07:04 PM
Many thanks tk - I have posted my details on that form.

glendale
06.10.2005, 01:12 PM
Hi!

Just wanted to change the Delay Mode "Edit FX" from "Simple Delay" to a Pattern. When receiving Pattern 3+3, suddenly the sound stopped. Since then, the TI doesn't output anything on any channel.

Even a restart didn't fix the problem ... no sound anymore :(

Hope, you can help!

[edit]

Ok, found the problem - seems, the TI killed my Sequencer (Sonar 4) 8O

Cheers,
glen

ten
06.10.2005, 03:00 PM
Anyone else getting crashes in SX 3.1 when trying to type in the tempo in the common section of virus control? using 1.0.2r2

ten

Doc Jones
06.10.2005, 03:04 PM
Anyone else getting crashes in SX 3.1 when trying to type in the tempo in the common section of virus control? using 1.0.2r2

ten
Ten, what kind of crashes are you getting ie - screen freeze, bsod etc?
Also, can you tell us exactly what happens and when - ex, I type in the tempo and as soon as I hit enter . . . . and it happens every single time etc.
thanks.

Househead
06.10.2005, 04:15 PM
Anyone else getting crashes in SX 3.1 when trying to type in the tempo in the common section of virus control? using 1.0.2r2

ten

Mines not crashing but it will not allow me to change to tempo on the common page to sync with Cubase 3.

I click on the tempo part, type in 136 and hit enter. It goes back to 120.0 tempo.

Strange...

Paul

Doc Jones
06.10.2005, 04:21 PM
Househead and Ten, how come you don't use midi clock sync signal from cubase to keep the ti in sync with the tempo changes?

ten
06.10.2005, 04:39 PM
Yea, I have got it synced... I just wanted to change the tempo manually by typing it in :) As soon as I press enter boom it crashes with a box saying 'error blah press ok to shut down cubase sx'

If I use the mouse to move the tempo up/down though it works fine. Ive mentioned it to Access and they say it will be fixed in a later revision.

ten

tk
06.10.2005, 04:48 PM
Yea, I have got it synced... I just wanted to change the tempo manually by typing it in :)

Type the tempo in the sequencer transport panel. The Virus Control will follow.

tk

ten
06.10.2005, 04:52 PM
It seems anything I type into the virus control will cause a crash actually. I can move sliders fine but anything I want to type as soon as I hit enter boom cubase craps out :) No big deal as everything can be done with the mouse but something worth taking note of.

ten

Househead
06.10.2005, 08:59 PM
Yea, I have got it synced... I just wanted to change the tempo manually by typing it in :)

Type the tempo in the sequencer transport panel. The Virus Control will follow.

tk

Tk

I have tried to change this in the transport panel but still no joy?

Has anyone found out how to name your own patches?

tk
07.10.2005, 07:24 AM
Tk

I have tried to change this in the transport panel but still no joy?

Has anyone found out how to name your own patches?

The tempo value has nothing to do with the actuall bpm given by the sequencer. The "tempo" value is only valid when you use the patch outside of the virus control.

Naming the patch: double click on the name in the part panel, then you can edit it.

tk

Guido
07.10.2005, 08:33 AM
I have a TI Polar and am running Logic 7.1 on a Dual 2.7 Powermac

I downloaded the latest OS from Access (1.0.2) and began updating the firmware on the Virus. BUT, halfway through the installation there was a powercut!

DISASTER! Arghhh!

Now the Virus doesn't power on properly. It keeps looping on the startup screen, turning on and off repeatedly! I've tried disconnnecting from the power, and have tried reinstalling the software but the Virus keeps on booting and rebooting, never getting past the 'Virus TI' screen.

The power source is good now, so what is wrong? Please help!

ten
07.10.2005, 08:39 AM
Press and keep pressed the exit button when you power it on. This brings it to the os update screen. Re-run the installation file and redo the firmware also, should fix it.

ten

Khazul
07.10.2005, 09:58 AM
(will post into support as well)

1.0.2 Keyboard - Running stand-alone via midi.

Single mode:
Gettings a few glitches still while playing, mostly around patch selections.

Im not sure, but I think they might be most prevelant while switching to, from or using a hypersaw patch (but not really sure).

I also running a midi clock into the TI from a roland TD6K drum module so I can sync the TI arps with drum loops on my V-Synth. This is the first time Ive had it synced in this eay and have experienced a few complete crashes requiring power cycling.

I also think while synced some of the arps dont seem to be starting quite when a key is hit.


Multi-mode (again synced to external midi clock):
Oh dear... I press a key to start an arp and can take maybe half a second for the arp to pick up. Same when pressing another key.

Multi-mode doesnt seem to be very happy.

glendale
07.10.2005, 10:13 AM
Hi again ... just received the same error as reported above.

When changing the Delay Mode "Edit FX" from "Simple Delay" to a Pattern (Pattern 3+3), suddenly the sound stops and the TI doesn't output anything anymore.

How does it happen? How can I solve the problem?

Cheers,
glen

obliterations
07.10.2005, 10:24 AM
Arg... My Ti Desktop not sync-ing up..

I recorded the audio outs to the audio ins through a mixer using the virus as a sound device...and have a huge delay issuse with just the audio from the virus. My sampler is right on...the virus is slow??? What gives?

Also.. While using the virus control sometimes there is no sound coming out of the unit. Meters flashing but just silence...

I also tried bouncing a track with just the Virus as a VST... and all I get is a strange "matrix sound" Doesnt matter what patch im using...it all sounds about the same...

here it is...
http://www.boundinoblivion.com/VirusTi/VirusBounce.aif

Too tired to think anymore.

DIGITAL SCREAMS
07.10.2005, 11:11 AM
Obliterations....

Im enjoying this Matrix sound you made. Can you tell me what settings you used so that I can make it :lol:

But dont worry.....little bugs and glitches will get ironed out in due course. Just use the analog outs for now.....

DS

steamyb
07.10.2005, 03:00 PM
Oh No

:cry:

Does anyone have this problem?
when inserting headphones I get a good signal from the right channel and crackling/partial good signal in the left. It is cured by unplugging and re-inserting a couple of times.

Seems only to have happened after upgrading to 1.0.2r2

Could software affect the headphone outputs?

Househead
07.10.2005, 09:23 PM
Tk

I have tried to change this in the transport panel but still no joy?

Has anyone found out how to name your own patches?

The tempo value has nothing to do with the actuall bpm given by the sequencer. The "tempo" value is only valid when you use the patch outside of the virus control.

Naming the patch: double click on the name in the part panel, then you can edit it.

tk

Thanks for quick reply TK... :wink:

DIGITAL SCREAMS
07.10.2005, 09:44 PM
Oh No

:cry:

Does anyone have this problem?
when inserting headphones I get a good signal from the right channel and crackling/partial good signal in the left. It is cured by unplugging and re-inserting a couple of times.

Seems only to have happened after upgrading to 1.0.2r2

Could software affect the headphone outputs?

Are you definitly sure its not your stereo headphones on their way out? I cant think of any logical reason why the Virus would do this....but then again I have no real understanding of just how software effects physical components....

Hope this gets answered/worked out soon. Keep us posted.

DS

steamyb
08.10.2005, 12:07 PM
Yo DS

Headphones are OK.
It seems as if the TI needs to have "warmed up" a while before the headphone socket works correctly. :roll:

Access are looking into it....

Will let the board know how I get on

:wink:

steamyb
10.10.2005, 05:43 AM
Oh No

:cry:

Does anyone have this problem?
when inserting headphones I get a good signal from the right channel and crackling/partial good signal in the left. It is cured by unplugging and re-inserting a couple of times.

Seems only to have happened after upgrading to 1.0.2r2

Could software affect the headphone outputs?

Are you definitly sure its not your stereo headphones on their way out? I cant think of any logical reason why the Virus would do this....but then again I have no real understanding of just how software effects physical components....

Hope this gets answered/worked out soon. Keep us posted.

DS

The outputs worked after about 4-5 minutes but had a tiny bit of noise and some glitches during certain patch changes.
Access say I got a duffer ".....the headphone outs should be crystal clear...Please return your unit" :(

I'll have to wait at least another month for replacement.
I take it we are all Beta testing for Access now.

DIGITAL SCREAMS
10.10.2005, 10:45 AM
The best way to beta test is get the general public to do it......think of all those different setup configurations. Theres only so much you can do working in an office.

Yes, its awkward....but at the same time...problems will get identified alot quicker and hopefully rectified quicker. This is what everyone wants.

DS

Royalston
12.10.2005, 04:52 AM
Ive got a TI with SX 3.1 and Tiger 10.4.2

Bouncing Ti Audio results in crazy mangled sound - as if recorded at the wrong sample rate. Its very bad.

Any ideas?

ps. The Ti Crashes SX regularly - esp if you turn it off and on whilst using it in a project.

ten
12.10.2005, 05:36 AM
You have to bounce down using 'export in realtime' mode.

ten

Royalston
12.10.2005, 05:57 AM
gracias!
:)

Doc Jones
12.10.2005, 07:50 AM
I am using the beta software as there isn't any update on the website for pc at the moment. Here is my midi issue. This happens to both of my midi interfaces - echo layla24 and midex 8.

Problem - I lose my midi capabilities for my other synths once the TI is powered on.

Description - Open cubase sx 3.1 and create new project. Create midi track using echo layla in and echo layla out as the port. The out connects to a sound module/the in is from a SL880 controller. Play controller and can hear sound from sound module. Now, power on TI - in a few seconds the TI powers up, msg displays link established with usb, then another message about setting system clock to 48K (when it should be set at 44.1). After system clock msg, I can no longer use my midi interfaces and can now no longer play my sound module until I close out of that project and create a new project in cubase. This happens to both my layla and my midex 8.

Royalston
13.10.2005, 07:55 AM
Ok Ive got a new bug


It seems the matrix does not always work.

Im trying to modulate OSC 1 by just about anything in the 3rd matrix slot. Nothing happens. Im even doing really obvious parameters like pitch.

Ive noticed this in a lot of matrix programming over the last few days. Im using SX 3.10 on a mac. These parameters can be modulated via the permanent LFO destinations.

I must say Ive never enjoyed programming a synth as much as this. The On screen refferrence and the real hardware rocks! (apart from the bugs)

ps. I have a Virus C so Im pretty confident in how the Virus works :) For a while I thought this bug was my stupidity

Any ideas?

MarcTale
13.10.2005, 06:00 PM
Hello,
I also seem to have a big problem:

I use the TI (newest OS) with Cubase SX 3.1.
I created two Midi-Parts with the TI - one with USB connection and another
one over my mixer (Onyx 1602 with Firewire).
I also created an automaion for the Mixer-Part with Volume-Controller.
And as soon as I hit the "read"-button on this Midi-Part all the
VirusControl for this part seem to be set to 0!
So there?s no Sound from this Part.
When I hit the "read"-button a few times more the USB-Part is also gone and
there?s no sound at all from the TI.
Doesn?t matter if I play on my own or use the recorded midi-parts.
When the "read"-Button is turned off everything is fine (except i don?t have
automation!)

This all happened after I created a new Audio-Part to automate the
Mixer-input with the Cubase-internal FX.

I hope I explained it well enough.

Is there anything I could have done wrong?
Maybe there?s a reset function i could accidently have hit or anything like
that?

Or is it a problem with VirusControl?


Thanks for help

MarcTale

Househead
17.10.2005, 12:27 PM
Hi All,

It may be just me but I think Virus Control is riddled with bugs, flaws, etc. We have already discussed the Arp bug/s, which as TEN mentioned is a bit of a workflow killer.

I have noticed that I can not change values using the little red up and down arrows on the common, filter, osc, pages. Anybody else have this problem?

Also last night I did a little seq over 4 bars(not using an Arp) but a lead. Drunken sailor effect (speeds up then drags). Closed down seq and restarted and all OK?

Iam using Cubase SX 3.1 with XP (Service Pack 2) and latest drivers from Access.

I'm afraid I may have to go onto gaming for a while until fixes are in place as this is p***ing me off a bit.

:roll:

DIGITAL SCREAMS
17.10.2005, 02:01 PM
Also last night I did a little seq over 4 bars(not using an Arp) but a lead. Drunken sailor effect (speeds up then drags)

Could this be some kinda USB bottleneck effect? Kinda like....it works ok for the first 2 mins then becomes unstable? I have this with computer games on my laptop...first 5 mins is ok....and then my CPU chokes and it becomes insanely slow....and then my internet connection becomes unstable. Talk about an irritence when your trying to kill people online :lol:

I dont know what the problem is and its all mere speculation. All that I do know is that owners of the M-audio Quatrro UBS soundcard slate it for its timming issues....and that too is a USB 1.1 device....

I should imagine these little bugs and things WILL get sorted. In the meantime cant people just use the TI like Virus B + C users do....i.e. standalone. Having said that....these 'problems' are more likely to be identified and sorted quicker if people just grit their teeth and try and use the TI features. I feel for you all.....

DS

grs
17.10.2005, 03:07 PM
I for one dislike being a test subject. Those of us who want to keep working may aswell plug the virus b, c back in and be productive.
I had fun playing with the presets, I was even chuffed when my multi arrangment loaded (from a virus b sysex dump in Cubase), but try and 'integrate' and crunch. It falls over. Sure some sounds come out, but even patch changing in sequencer mode makes the BPM led go out and then skip back in.

So the work around I'm devising is an un totally integrated one. Have fun in single mode with the patch browser and arp maker OUTSIDE of your project. Then do your project with old midi cables and analog outs. NO virus control. It's kind of like two worlds. Not even sort of integrated.

MADSTATION
17.10.2005, 03:09 PM
Sucks to hear you guys have some problem...
I just don't understand tho since I can work really well with the TI, using the USB out and I think they've done a fantastic job.

Househead
17.10.2005, 04:16 PM
I should imagine these little bugs and things WILL get sorted. In the meantime cant people just use the TI like Virus B + C users do....i.e. standalone. Having said that....these 'problems' are more likely to be identified and sorted quicker if people just grit their teeth and try and use the TI features. I feel for you all.....

DS

I totally agree there DS (It's going to take time to iron a few bugs/flaws/Etc..) with Virus Control as expected.

I can work with it but it takes a bit longer. I also hate only 2 stereo outs through USB but have to live with it I Suppose. :roll:

HH

u4ia
17.10.2005, 04:30 PM
I definitely have had better luck working with the Virus with VirusControl off. Even using USB for midi/audio seems to work fairly well with VirusControl off, at least it sounds like things stay in sync. The big drawback is that I can't send the virus output down USB, but need to use the hardware outs instead, I guess USB for output can only be used when Vcontrol is on.

One interesting thing with VirusControl on, I never see any on/off/controller midi messages being sent to the virus when playing back midi parts. All I see is the midi clock sync messages coming from my host . VControl must be using its own protocol to send note/controller information to the hardware virus. I wonder why they didn't just use the midi path that is there already...

Househead
18.10.2005, 09:09 PM
Anybody else get the note hang bug using SX3?

When I stop SX3, sometimes a chord or note will play on...and on...ann on

HH

MADSTATION
18.10.2005, 09:13 PM
Househead: Yes it happens from times to time. I just use the "panic" buttons and it usually solves the issue.

Doc Jones
18.10.2005, 10:25 PM
Anybody else get the note hang bug using SX3?

When I stop SX3, sometimes a chord or note will play on...and on...ann on

HH
yes, I get this too using SX 3.1. I also get this when hitting the mute button on the virus track. I have to do a midi reset from cubase to stop it.

grs
19.10.2005, 11:43 AM
Anybody else get the note hang bug using SX3?

When I stop SX3, sometimes a chord or note will play on...and on...ann on

HH
yes, I get this too using SX 3.1. I also get this when hitting the mute button on the virus track. I have to do a midi reset from cubase to stop it.

You can press the MONO and SYNC buttons together = PANIC. which I have been doing so all day long. You would think with sample accurate midi timing they would have sample accurate midi off messages. My gues is that under heavy cpu loads the USB link between Viurs Control and the Virus hardware is strugling. Realy the weak link in the chain is USB and Windows.

Househead
19.10.2005, 08:47 PM
I suppose we have to give the guys @ Access a little time to iron a few things out..

It has been mentioned before that it's impossible to try Virus Control on every possible system config. Let's hope for some nice new fixes soon :wink:

HH

grs
21.10.2005, 07:40 AM
Bug number x71b?
Patch Common Pannorama, not remembered in Seq Mode.

I still get hanging notes and arp speed wobbles. Best work around is to not 'sync to external' use 'Internal sync' and set each patch to Bpm or your project.

Hollowcell
22.10.2005, 01:03 AM
I have a little question...

How does the TI work when using it as a normal midi based-analogue in/out unit? You know, in a similar way to how you'd use a VC for example.

The girl next door
22.10.2005, 11:13 PM
Motu 828,powercore(Firewire),LOGIC 5.5.1.pc,

I'm using the latest OS 1.03 on the Ti desktop USB with Logic 5.5.1 and every time i try to open a second virus instrument track in my song it won't let me,the Vst opens on the second track but i can't access it.There is a message "Total integration status page" and 3 crosses underneath it..I this a bug or have i got to switch something on..I had a look in the manual,but no joy.........................
:cry: [/url]

F5D
22.10.2005, 11:43 PM
You can open only 1 Virus instrument and you use the same gui for every channel. You have to build the rest tracks with midi tracks. I guess the virus ti manual explains how you do it. You must probably use the environment to do that.

grs
23.10.2005, 08:30 AM
I have a little question...

How does the TI work when using it as a normal midi based-analogue in/out unit? You know, in a similar way to how you'd use a VC for example.
Yes, Hollow it works very well. I tried an experiment: Did lots of work on a tune with USB midi and Virus Control, unplugged the USB midi cable. went with normal midi for the mixdown. No hanging notes of tempo bumps.

pseudonym
23.10.2005, 01:04 PM
I've been using the TI without USB for three days now, and I've had nothing but bugs. Patches slip out of character, MIDI notes fail to transmit, horrible digital noise exploding out of every output, vocoder crashing, default INIT patch playing over every patch, and I've just about had enough. If Access don't give me some advice on Monday, I'm sending the machine back - and probably ask for my money back until they sort this mess out.

ben crosland
23.10.2005, 01:36 PM
I've been using the TI without USB for three days now, and I've had nothing but bugs. Patches slip out of character, MIDI notes fail to transmit, horrible digital noise exploding out of every output, vocoder crashing, default INIT patch playing over every patch, and I've just about had enough.

Really? This sounds very odd.

Firstly, I assume you've installed the latest OS?

Which TI model do you have?

Have you tried resetting the TI (Press ARP EDIT in standby mode, or hold it down whilst plugging in the power cable)? What happens after doing this?

What are you using to transmit midi to the virus? Are you sure you're only sending on one midi channel at a time? If not, this could explain the INIT patch 'playing over every patch' (assuming I'm understanding you correctly here?)

MADSTATION
23.10.2005, 03:09 PM
Yeah the damn thing is barely usable...
I'm having similar issues but I never experienced the init patch bugs.

I'm reading the Novamusik's return policy now...
Anyway tried returning their synth?

"Return/ Exchange Policy: First and foremost we're just musicians serving fellow musicians so we understand what it's like to get a piece of kit home only to find out it doesn't live up to your expectations. Now what. Well, our refund policy is as simple as can be. In fact, we pride ourselves on having perhaps the most hassle-free system in the industry!"

I will give them a call tomorrow.

MADSTATION
23.10.2005, 03:27 PM
Could this be some kinda USB bottleneck effect? Kinda like....it works ok for the first 2 mins then becomes unstable?

I'm afraid that you might be right here!
Sometimes it is rock solid, but most of the times it's REALLY unstable.
Very temperamental to say the least :(

That worries me because I'm getting less confident that this is something that they CAN fix. I know they WANT to fix, but can they, really?
Have you guys EVER heard of a succesful USB audio device?
Let me know coz I havent!

dr. orange
23.10.2005, 07:45 PM
reading this thread really frightened me. I also start to doubt that they'll fix those bugs, particularly since there's already v 1.03 out (1.04 probably tomorrow) / twenty days have passed and the amount of complainments hasn't reduced. I wonder how all the reviews will be like in the synthesizer magazines...

Doc Jones
23.10.2005, 08:20 PM
Guys, I can understand your concern, but access has been doing this stuff for a long time and have turned out some top quality products in the past. I don't see why the TI should be any different. I would like to see someone from access post on here something like "here are the issues that we have confirmed in our test labs and are presently working on them" (maybe they did that already?) Other than that I still feel confident that they will eventually resolve these issues.

pseudonym
23.10.2005, 08:57 PM
I've been using the TI without USB for three days now, and I've had nothing but bugs. Patches slip out of character, MIDI notes fail to transmit, horrible digital noise exploding out of every output, vocoder crashing, default INIT patch playing over every patch, and I've just about had enough.

Really? This sounds very odd.

Firstly, I assume you've installed the latest OS?

Which TI model do you have?

Have you tried resetting the TI (Press ARP EDIT in standby mode, or hold it down whilst plugging in the power cable)? What happens after doing this?

What are you using to transmit midi to the virus? Are you sure you're only sending on one midi channel at a time? If not, this could explain the INIT patch 'playing over every patch' (assuming I'm understanding you correctly here?)

Hi,

I have the latest OS on the TI Keyboard, and I've tried the ARP edit method several times (mostly to restore the TI to normal after a crash). After using this method, the TI works as normal for about 10 minutes, but then problems with patch characteristics, exploding pops and digital noise, and vocoder dropouts keep coming back.

When I get the INIT patch masking other sounds, I'm not using MIDI or USB, just playing keys on the machine, and it plays an INIT patch over the top of the chosen patch, then the whole machine pauses unresponsively for a few seconds, and pop, out comes the digital noise again.

What is most annoying are the sounds that stray out of character. Try this, it happens every single time:

Load ROM-I 49 LowKick RP onto a new MIDI track in Logic Pro 7.1.1, sequence a basic 4x4 beat, and then select another channel to play another part on the TI such as a pad. Play one note on the pad, and the kick patch on the previous channel gets pitched up to sound like a blip. This happens repeatedly on clean Logic projects with a completely clean Environment. What assures me that this is not a problem with my setup, is that if I leave the pad alone, after about a minute of sequencing the blip, it slowly returns to being a kick drum. !!! How can this be? It looks to me like Access spent so long focusing on their Total Integration, and haven't paid enough attention to implementing a solid MIDI instrument because of it. I cannot use the Virus Control with my TI, because it fails to initialise unless I am using the Virus as the Audio Driver - it just crashes if I select the EMI 2|6 as the audio driver - so I've tried to work with the TI as a basic MIDI instrument, and even that falls over.

Also, the TI fails to send MIDI data to logic for more than a few minutes, so if anyone has any tips on how to get the TI to transmit MIDI note data consistently to Logic, I'd be much appreciative - at least then I can use it as a controller keyboard to play Absynth in the meantime...

?1500 of hard earned money, and 6 months of patient time invested in something that is of no use to me.

Very frustrated and unhappy.

blay
26.10.2005, 08:35 AM
well my cheque clears tomoro and my ti is waiting at the store but reading about such major flaws has made me un easy.

is anyone having any luck with the thing?

cheers

blay

DIGITAL SCREAMS
26.10.2005, 10:34 AM
Blay you probably wont get the answer your looking for for a few months yet. Ultimately we all know the TI will eventually run as solidly as previous virus's. For a small select few it probably does all ready. There are so many configurations to account for.....it'll take a bit of time to cover the bugs from the various set ups. Now, without trying to sound negative....this is a tough long term battle as configurations are always going to change and im not convinced anyone (not just Access) could ever hope to really make things run flawlessly for everyone. Ive always been in favour of powerful standalone synths (and the TI is king)....in my mind its allready a synth workstation without pc integration 8)

DS

jasedee
26.10.2005, 10:54 AM
Blay:

I would get the Ti, and just forget about the Ti bit (ie USB) and use it like you use your other synths. Good ol MIDI cables and analogue outs

The Ti is still a Virus, but with bells.....fuck the Ti bit, who cares.....it still sounds awesome does it not????

Let Access worry about the Ti bit, and get into it when all the bugs are ironed out, but for now, just use it for its amazing sound

DIGITAL SCREAMS
26.10.2005, 11:13 AM
Jase reflects my sentiments also. The Ti bit will come in due course (its 85% there already). If your after the virus sound and want the bells and whistles then part with ur money 8) Do it bitch :lol:

DS

blay
26.10.2005, 12:35 PM
Yes, Hollow it works very well. I tried an experiment: Did lots of work on a tune with USB midi and Virus Control, unplugged the USB midi cable. went with normal midi for the mixdown. No hanging notes of tempo bumps.

I didnt notice this post before - definately good to hear....

I have heard otherwise from other TI owners though - and it worries me.

DS and Jasedee you guys both know I will happy if the TI works stably without the integration - but I must admit after waiting this long it would be disappointing if the hardware isnt working as flawlessly as access would have had us believe (months ago too)

as if im not going to buy it. its coming home with me - bugs and all...

cheers

blay

Gopal
27.10.2005, 12:06 AM
Remember how I was posting months ago to say they should just release the TI as a damn powerful synth in its own right and forget about the TI bit for now?

That is all...

Cheers 8)

technomonster
27.10.2005, 05:13 AM
JASEDEE WROTE

Good ol MIDI cables and analogue outs


exactly, but i would like to be able to use the USB, to use the VC for patch editing and storage.

cant it do that at least. combine the 2 methods.

i am counting on it

The girl next door
28.10.2005, 01:24 AM
Has anybody got a "Bottle of glue" when the Ti update is out..v1.04

grs
28.10.2005, 05:25 AM
JASEDEE WROTE

Good ol MIDI cables and analogue outs


exactly, but i would like to be able to use the USB, to use the VC for patch editing and storage.

cant it do that at least. combine the 2 methods.

i am counting on it

I do it. USB VC for song creation - if you can stand the problems of timing when changing patches stuck notes etc. Use a FXP save in VC (you'll need this later). Then Pull out the usb cable, re-assign all midi to VirusTI to (insert hardware midi port here). You have to be working with analog outs and know how to deal with late / early delay issues. I use a delay plugin on all the hardware inputs (Creamware Pulsar).
You can use this method to get a glitch free mixdown. Then to work on the track again you have to close everything. Plugin the USB, reload, use the FXP save incase you lost or saved over you VC settings.