More problems with the second virus instrument track

[The girl next door]

Motu 828,powercore(Firewire),LOGIC 5.5.1.pc,
USING THE VIRUS Ti DESKTOP
I bunked down me settings to Buffer range Small and buffer size 1..No latency anymore..Sorted..
Now i try to open in Multi mode VST in Logic 5.5.1 and the Ti VSTi Window sticks/Freeze's with a red sign "Starting up Virus control"
How do i get the thing to run on more than 1 track in a song (Which i haven't as yet achieved even before i tweaked the settings)) without having a Nightmare............Is it a setting on the hardware??in the Vst itself or logic or all???????

Update on the above Q

I'm using the latest OS 1.03 on the Ti desktop USB with Logic 5.5.1 and every time i try to open a second virus instrument track in my song it won't let me,the Vst opens on the second track but i can't access it.There is a message "Total integration status page" and 3 crosses underneath it..Is this a bug or have i got to switch something on..I had a look in the manual,but no joy.........................

[ben crosland]

Assuming it works the same as 5.5.1 for Windows.. (d'oh - reads post more carefully!)

In the Environment window, select the next available Audio Instrument by clicking on its name at the bottom of the channel strip. On the left of the window, you should see the stats for that instrument. If it is Audio Instrument 2, it will say so in this box. Click and hold where it says 'Cha Inst 2' - now select 'Instrument 1' from the pop up list. Then set 'Midi Cha' to 2.

Repeat up to 14 times, adjusting the Midi Channels accordingly.

[The girl next door]

Your well sorted... :D It's just like the Virus C..And there's me Been fannying around 4 the last 2 hours trying to open it up new in every track...Like a softy VSTi..
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[technomonster]

the girl next door wrote

I bunked down me settings to Buffer range Small and buffer size 1..No latency anymore..Sorted..


did you mean that you changed your buffer settings in your MOTU Motu 828,powercore(Firewire) soundcard or the TI soundcard setting.

what do you mean?

i am not that good in following signal paths, but if you changed the settings on your MOTU why would you do that.

on my DELTA 1010 i have the settings on 256 or 5-6 seconds buffer, and everything sounds great as far as my hardware synths go.

wouldnt like to change that to adjust for the TI.

[The girl next door]

the girl next door wrote

I bunked down me settings to Buffer range Small and buffer size 1..No latency anymore..Sorted..


did you mean that you changed your buffer settings in your MOTU Motu 828,powercore(Firewire) soundcard or the TI soundcard setting.

what do you mean?

i am not that good in following signal paths, but if you changed the settings on your MOTU why would you do that.

on my DELTA 1010 i have the settings on 256 or 5-6 seconds buffer, and everything sounds great as far as my hardware synths go.

wouldnt like to change that to adjust for the TI.
No i mean the settings in Logic 5.5.1 i also have my settings at 256 on the MOTU..I think your a bit confused with the Powercore,its not a soundcard.you run your effects(VSTs) or software instruments (Virus VSTi software) on its 4 DSPs for better quality of sound and it relieves the computer processor from getting a hammering from all thats going on in your sequencer.

[The girl next door]

Now they are running on there own tracks and being routed to another track with the Ti running on this track...OK then i add a VST effect like WAVES Reverb etc on 1 track they all get added to each track with the Ti running on it

[The girl next door]

Now they are running on there own tracks and being routed to another track with the Ti running on this track...OK then i add a VST effect like WAVES Reverb etc on 1 track they all get added to each track with the Ti running on it
Also if i put an animation on 1 track Volume up and down 4 example all virus ti tracks change in volume......... :cry:

[ben crosland]

If you want to put a vst effect on only one part - try assigning it's Main Out (Common Page in Virus Control) to USB2.

[The girl next door]

You've lost me there abit mate.Its the sequencer (Logic 5.5.1 in my case)that always changes..If i send "For example"audio inst 1 on midi 1 to the Ti software and audio inst 2 on midi 2 to the Ti and so on...Up to 16..And want a VST effect(e.g. Waves EQ) only on audio inst 6,this effect always gets assigned to all audio inst 1-16 which i don't want of course..I'm sure it must be a setting in Logic..Also when we have a track on Touch in Logic and turn the Cutoff on the Ti Hardware for an amimation... and play it back on read it reads the cutoff back to the Ti ok but all tracks receive the cutoff order..

[ben crosland]

You've lost me there abit mate.Its the sequencer (Logic 5.5.1 in my case)that always changes..If i send "For example"audio inst 1 on midi 1 to the Ti software and audio inst 2 on midi 2 to the Ti and so on...Up to 16..And want a VST effect(e.g. Waves EQ) only on audio inst 6,this effect always gets assigned to all audio inst 1-16 which i don't want of course..I'm sure it must be a setting in Logic..

Sorry - it seems that Logic 5.x PC cannot do this. :( I'm afraid the only solution is to solo that Part and bounce it to audio.


Also when we have a track on Touch in Logic and turn the Cutoff on the Ti Hardware for an amimation... and play it back on read it reads the cutoff back to the Ti ok but all tracks receive the cutoff order..

I don't know what's going on here, it works perfectly on my system. Or have you accidentally set the part you are automating to Midi Cha = All? Indidentally, once you have sorted this out, if you want to automate the volume of each Part independently, you should automate the Part Volume sliders within the Virus Control, and not Logic's track faders (right click on the Part Volume slider to assign this control for automation).

[The girl next door]

You've lost me there abit mate.Its the sequencer (Logic 5.5.1 in my case)that always changes..If i send "For example"audio inst 1 on midi 1 to the Ti software and audio inst 2 on midi 2 to the Ti and so on...Up to 16..And want a VST effect(e.g. Waves EQ) only on audio inst 6,this effect always gets assigned to all audio inst 1-16 which i don't want of course..I'm sure it must be a setting in Logic..

Sorry - it seems that Logic 5.x PC cannot do this. :( I'm afraid the only solution is to solo that Part and bounce it to audio.


Also when we have a track on Touch in Logic and turn the Cutoff on the Ti Hardware for an amimation... and play it back on read it reads the cutoff back to the Ti ok but all tracks receive the cutoff order..



I don't know what's going on here, it works perfectly on my system. Or have you accidentally set the part you are automating to Midi Cha = All? Indidentally, once you have sorted this out, if you want to automate the volume of each Part independently, you should automate the Part Volume sliders within the Virus Control, and not Logic's track faders (right click on the Part Volume slider to assign this control for automation).
I got it sorted when i was going into Automation i didn't realize/see there were 16 different types of cutoff,1 for every midi track on the Ti..Cheers i have seen the Right click on the Slder now also seen what the softknobs(Softknobs thats funny,my German mates wouldn't get that one LOL)
can do...Is there a limit to how many automations you can have on a Ti track, 127 i prosume...So my problems are sorted 4 now anyway...
Just another quick one When you call up a VSTi in our case the Ti there are two different options in Logic.. Stereo Ti and the Multi Ti Whats the difference between them we've tryed them both we can't see the difference....Cause its Multi channel anyway,right....But when running in Multi,playing back a Midi Loop it can't read the notes quick enough..
This doesn't happen on the Normal stereo option..
Your doing a good job sorting these problems out..I think i would have ripped me Hair (that i ain't got) out by now...
REFERENCE Sorry - it seems that Logic 5.x PC cannot do this. :( I'm afraid the only solution is to solo that Part and bounce it to audio.

Thats a Shame cause i'm not upgrading to Mac KEEP THAT IN MIND ACCESS there are still loads of 5.5.1 users around
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[The girl next door]

Yo Ben,
:idea: so i'm thinking the Ti can only open on one track cause you can only use the 16 midi only.. is this cause each midi has 127 CC controls and this times 16 over(Midi) and that is all a USB cable can handle or have i got the wrong end of the stick,if i am mistaken then maybe in a future Update it will be able to not only be capable of handling 1 times 16 midi but maybe more (127 midi)... :!:
I remember hearing somewhere that 1 USB input on a computer can handle upto 127 bits of kit printers /scanners/cameras etc etc.
:?: