Guitar physical modelling on the Nord G2 Modular

[Smag]

Hi,

Get your ears round this guys, it's the G2 doing physical modelling and I never thought physical modelling could sound this realistic (suppose that's what it's all about!). It uses a string oscillator played by a guy on the G2 keyboard, just a bit of reverb and no samples apparently!!

http://www.clavia.se/G2/G2Guitar.mp3

[Tomer=Trance]

well i think its just good keyboard playing,i tried the cpu based G2 demo and i couldnt get it to sound half as good... :P

[Smag]

CPU demo? Do you mean just having a look at the software editor?

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

I personally dont really like, nor see the benefit of physical modelling. If your wanting sounds resembling something realistic (yet distinctly different) then I would of thought a hardware sampler and some imaginative use of filter and effects would serve the same kind of purpose. Im a stickler for synthesized sounds

DS

[Hollowcell]

I agree with DS in a way...

But, you can't deny how good the G2 does sound! Definitely possible to get some very expressive patches from the thing.

Ahhh money..... :cry:

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Ive played around on a G2X and its ok. But to be honest ive been having alot more fun on my m8s Akai S3000XL sampler. My first intro to sampling....and the possibilities seems pretty endless. Its like synthezising real world audio. Made some really made sounds with some simple vocal clips

Ill see if I can upload it somewhere.....soon

DS

[Tomer=Trance]

accualy pysical modeling is great when combined with analog\sub atractive and additive synthesis to creat weird and wild sounds,i dont think there is much point to try and mimic acustic sounds\real players.


Cpu version=a monophonic version clavia released few months ago for free in order to addvertise their product and couse G.A.S. :)
you can get it from their official website.

i wana get the little NM1 keyboard sooner or later.

[Analog Warriors]

CPU demo? Do you mean just having a look at the software editor?

no ... he's talking about this one (http://www.clavia.se/G2/demo/SetupModularG2Demo_v126.zip) :wink:

[Timo]

Physical modelling is great.

Makes a very welcome and more evolving sonic change from the usual, boring, heard-before, saw, square, *yawn*, sine, *ZZZzzzzzzzzz*.....

[Smag]

Physical modelling is great.

Makes a very welcome and more evolving sonic change from the usual, boring, heard-before, saw, square, *yawn*, sine, *ZZZzzzzzzzzz*.....

And with the G2 you can add a few modules and get the sound really twisted I suppose. I bet the process of programming a G2 isn't as immediate as tweeking knobs on a Virus though.

[Hollowcell]

I bet the process of programming a G2 isn't as immediate as tweeking knobs on a Virus though.

It depends what modules you have set up.

You could build a standard subractive synth and have multiple pages of knob allocations. Making it possible to program it as you would (in theory this is - haven't played with one myself) a normal subractive VA.

Would love to have a go with one in the studio.

[Smag]

I've just had a go on the CPU demo of the G2 and it gives you a good idea of what it can do - I found it easier than expected building patches, it's quite an intuitive editor and I like the way you can select a drop down menu on individual modules and change them for alternative modules.

I hope the actual hardware doesn't sound like the CPU demo though - it can't be the same sound surely?

[Tomer=Trance]

no,its several times better.
dsp is supirior over cpu for now when it comes to synthesis and such.

[Smag]

Cheers Tomer, that's what I thought, but I haven't been able to play a G2 at the stores I've been to so wouldn't know. Hmmm, it sounds like my type of thing to be honest. I'm going to hang fire and see how the Ti saga unfolds before I make my mind up.

[Tomer=Trance]

yeah its cool ive been wanting a NM1 for quit sometime now.
got to get some "must-have" basic stuff first before i can treat myself with this kind of toy.

[Yoozer]

no,its several times better.
dsp is supirior over cpu for now when it comes to synthesis and such.
What?

First of all the software G2 depends on the quality of your soundcard's convertors. If that's a simple on-board thing with tons of latency and noise of course the hardware version will sound better.

Second, there's no difference in sound between a DSP and a CPU. A DSP -is- a CPU. It's specialized though, opposed to the generic purpose models which are used in computers.

It does a particular kind of calculations pretty well. Since it does not have to bother with nice pictures or e-mail or whatever crap the efficiency is much higher - and this allows a DSP to run on a lower clock speed than a generic-purpose CPU.

The bits are the same. You can write the software for a DSP in a higher-level language such as C/C++ instead of pure assembler. Eventually the zeroes and ones that come out of it are exactly the same; it's just that the computer version doesn't have the dedicated DSPs running so it has to emulate one in a way. Compare the G2 software with the G2x (preferably via a digital out - but the G2 doesn't have that :( ) and there should be no difference.

Also, for physical modelling a G2 user named Chet Singer has written several tutorials.

http://chet.getchwood.com/G2-Tutorial/Index.htm

[Tomer=Trance]

sorry i was trying to speak out my mind in a simple non sientific way.
eventualy,dsp can do what cpus do in the field of synthesis in much less cycles this is why synths dont require high amount of proccessing power dsps in order to work\generate a rather high amount of voices and effects.