View Full Version : How are your TI's running now guys?
MonkeyMan
15.11.2005, 07:07 PM
Picking up my Virus Ti, Apple G5 Dual-core running Logic 7 next week guys...
Just wondering how well everyones Ti's are behaving with the new software updates? (particularly those running a similar system as mine)
cheers.
midislut
15.11.2005, 07:35 PM
i am very happy !!
no problems whatsoever 8)
What sequencer are you using with the TI BTW?
MADSTATION
15.11.2005, 07:43 PM
Working great for me using Cubase SX3.1.1.
A few minor issues but nothing that prevents me from working :)
And all these issues are known bugs from Access so they'll be fixed soon.
midislut
15.11.2005, 07:44 PM
What sequencer are you using with the TI BTW?
read the 3rd line of my signiture :roll:
nvisibl
15.11.2005, 08:38 PM
Like loud as fuck shit of a dirty bastarding shovel 8)
:lol:
MonkeyMan
15.11.2005, 09:24 PM
Nvisibl. Thank you. That has cleared that one right up.
index
15.11.2005, 09:31 PM
Its working like crap for me.
I get lots of hanged notes, with Vcontrol in Cubase SX3.
And the overall midi performance is just amazingly bad.
Half of the parts generates clicks & pops in certain patches.
Sometimes it just locks in Sequenser mode - every patch and part sounds like init even though i change patch... When i press power off and the virus goes to sleepmode the LFO leds continue to sweep back and forth.
Since there is no word or indication from Access that there should be any problem with hanged notes for Vcontrol for instance - im kind of loosing hope.
And i have just discovered that my TI is actually a 14-voice edition - 80 voices it not true for me.
I have a Cubase SX3 project that uses at most 14 voices at the same time of the Virus TI, if you umute parts one at a time you will notice that when you have unmuted the last two parts - the bassdrum (wich is part 3) dissapears.
Meaning that the bassdrum voices gets stealed by the pads & the leads.
Meaning that in no way in hell do this synth has 80 voices.
Its very near getting sent back because this was not at all what i payed for.
I am amazed when people say they have no problem at all! That is not at all my reality.
I am going to do a complete reinstall of windows and only install drivers and after that Cubase to make sure that there is nothing else that may be causing this. If it still is just usable in Single Mode i will swap it for something else.
Khazul
15.11.2005, 10:39 PM
USB audio - a bit glitchy
MIDI sync - seems much improved, still not perfect though
Keyboard - MIDI control of other synths is problematic - it seems to foget to send note off messages quite alot - shame - the TI keyboard is rather nice, but find I have to use my v-synth keyboard mostly (which is also a nice board, but not as good for expressive piano parts).
Hardware still seems to crash alot.
Virus control seems to have hugely improved its sync.
No Remote mode - please let have some level of remote support - even without templates etc
Doesnt send anything out via midi when USB connected and virus controll is active - making it useless as a hardware synth controller while Im running cubase - I have to yank the USB lead - I wish there was a stop gap remote mode to fix this. Also I like to layer the TI sounds with other synths - without MIDI out - not possible if also using virus control.
Seems *FAR* less accurate with arps via midi and analogue audio then any other synth I have. I only seems to get arps to work properly when using USB audio, otherwise they seem to lag behind subtley - enough to make the mix sound messy rather than cleanly in sync as when using USB audio. I use arps on my v-synth and motif-es alot via regulat MIDI (as opposed to USB MIDI) and have no such issues with them.
Even with also the above - still love this contraption, love the sound of it and love tweaking it - but I think its a Virus PI (partial integration) not a TI.
I get varied results but one thing is for sure, the more notes playing at once the more change for bad stuff and definitely when using Virus Control.
I wish Access would implement a USB audio communication ON / OFF button so us Virus Control - 'Analog out' dudes could rock hard.
On the polyphony thing, the lack of polyphony is related to the Virus Control plug-in. I think that there are a lot of suck silent notes, voices that haven't been freed up.
And i have just discovered that my TI is actually a 14-voice edition - 80 voices it not true for me.
I have a Cubase SX3 project that uses at most 14 voices at the same time of the Virus TI, if you umute parts one at a time you will notice that when you have unmuted the last two parts - the bassdrum (wich is part 3) dissapears.
Meaning that the bassdrum voices gets stealed by the pads & the leads.
Meaning that in no way in hell do this synth has 80 voices.
This is just what I asked in another thread earlier and said that you probably have only 16 voices of polyphony when using many parts with their own reverbs and hypersaw etc. I guess nobody believed me. So it is true. You're the first one who has the courage to say it.
The manual says that reverbs need dsp and you should turn them off if you want more polyphony but the manual don't say how much it needs dsp. I guess we know now.
Thanks for the info.
dragonfly
16.11.2005, 09:46 AM
my virus is a big virus to me at the moment ...
MonkeyMan
17.11.2005, 11:38 AM
Anyone running a new G5 PowerMac with Logic 7 experiencing any problems?
Anyone running a new G5 PowerMac with Logic 7 experiencing any problems?
I would like to know too.
Househead
18.11.2005, 06:42 PM
Using SX 3.1.1 at the moment :-
Still getting note hangs
A bit glitchy on some sounds
:evil:
inasense
20.11.2005, 08:52 PM
I just recieved my Virus TI Polar approximately 3 days ago. My Virus is from the second batch. I have no problems with it so far. I am crossing my fingers and hoping my luck continues. I am using Sonar 5 Producer with a PC that is 64 bit Dual Core.
Foranamo
22.11.2005, 04:58 PM
My Desktop is running great, the only problem I have is the virus crashing with or without that apocalyptic sound. That happens quite rarely. I use it mainly as a live and performance instrument together with my Kurzweil PC2. I love this synth :)
jrob6716
30.11.2005, 11:30 PM
Anyone running a new G5 PowerMac with Logic 7 experiencing any problems?
So far it seems to operate fine withing Logic 7.1.1 . Running Dual G5 1.8 10.4.3 Updated firmware recently and running 1.07
Seems a bit sluggish to respond to patch changes from withing logic. Recording and playback of midi data works fine.
:)
rsformatc
01.12.2005, 10:05 AM
Still having problems with Polar even after 1.07 and clean WinXp SP2 install:
- odd hanging/dropped notes
- odd crash with buzzing
- audi mixdown timing in Cubase SL3.1.1 is still out.
ben crosland
01.12.2005, 10:06 AM
- audi mixdown timing in Cubase SL3.1.1 is still out.
Are you using an external soundcard?
rsformatc
01.12.2005, 10:25 AM
Hi Ben, nope using the TI USB ASIO. Tried all combinations of ASIO, USB, MidiClock, Project and Audio Mixdown Sample/Bit Rate.
Sometimes the export is spot on, but can never do it twice in a row!
Have also tried using a pre-roll but doesn't seem to help.
The Virus and the Cubase dongle are the only USB connections.
AMD 2800
ASUS MB with nVidia nForce2 chipset
1 GB Ram
Also have an Audiophile 2496 PCI card but only using that for recording audio now.
Any ideas?
Sean
ben crosland
01.12.2005, 10:28 AM
Hi Ben, nope using the TI USB ASIO. Tried all combinations of ASIO, USB, MidiClock, Project and Audio Mixdown Sample/Bit Rate.
Sometimes the export is spot on, but can never do it twice in a row!
What is it that goes out of time? The arps? If so, how far out do they go?
rsformatc
01.12.2005, 10:40 AM
Everything from the Virus is out of time. If I export 1 bar with 4 beats (a simple bass patch will do) and then play the audio together with the original the beats are out of time. When I look at the audio sample the wave starts sometime after the first beat at varying lengths. There is a delay on recording which I thought should be compensated for automatically. The sample itself seems in time though. Should I need to make a manual letency adjustment? Not sure I could though as the delay seems to vary from one export to another. Am I missing the point of waht sample accuracy is meant to achieve?
Latency comp is on. Have also tried it off.
ben crosland
01.12.2005, 02:38 PM
Try going into the ASIO control panel as soon as SL has loaded, and 'change' the Application Priority to a different setting. Then close it and click Apply.
Now try your export - any difference?
rsformatc
01.12.2005, 03:37 PM
Doesn't help.
I also noticed before Cubase doesn't seem to remember that the app priority has been changed, it is always on 'High'.
Tried exporting the bass line 3 times in a row without making any changes in between and got 3 different results! It is not even consistently out!
ben crosland
01.12.2005, 06:55 PM
Doesn't help.
I also noticed before Cubase doesn't seem to remember that the app priority has been changed, it is always on 'High'.
Yes - it takes this setting from the VST Audiobay>Expert>Audio Priority setting. You should check in here for other settings to tweak (at least try setting Audio Priority to Normal)
Tried exporting the bass line 3 times in a row without making any changes in between and got 3 different results! It is not even consistently out!
Well, it exports fine in SX3.1.1. under TIOS 1.07, so I'm thinking it's got to be something in your system - if fiddling around in the Expert panel doesn't help, I'd suggest reinstalling SL3 and checking your motherboard BIOS is up-to-date.
rsformatc
01.12.2005, 09:10 PM
I have tried many settings, re-installed Windows and Cubase SL. There is nothing much else running on this machine. A bit lost for things to try, but the Polar isn't much use to me if I can't export audio.
Access know about my issue, but if others are not having a problem I don't hold out much hope of a solution.
Thanks for trying.
Sean
Midi_Glider
01.12.2005, 10:47 PM
Does the audiofile software allow some sort of outputs rerouting back into an ASIO application (similar to RME`s TotalMix, for example)? if it does you can probably workaround the export problem by recording the Ti streams back into audio tracks in cubase.
Investing in a separate PCI USB controller might also prove helpful. I`m gonna pick one up tomorrow in hope it will somehow help my arp timing problems in Nuendo and SX.
hearing all other user reports, I can`t recall encountering another USB device that proved to be as system sensitive as the TI (:sigh:).
Best,
midi.
rsformatc
02.12.2005, 07:26 AM
It will be interesting to see what happens with the USB PCI controller.
Good luck!
Sean
I've tried the PCI usb thing and get identical bugs, don't bother.
cs759
04.12.2005, 01:45 AM
Had the TI a day now. No real problems as far as I can see.
Had the arp problem once, but that was because I was changing the transport a lot in a short space of time and with a short loop. It doesn't seem resiliant enough yet to make quick changes to the transport. You also need to give a few beats run up to the start of the midi part, then it's spot on every time.
Had it on USB ASIO 16bit, 44.1, highspeed
Synth: Virus Ti keyboard
Sequencer: Cubase SX 3.1, Live 5.02
Board: ASUS P4C800 Deluxe 875p "Canterwood" (Socket 478)
CPU: Pentium IV 2.6Ghz Northwood (800MHz FSB)
RAM: Corsair 1024Mb DDR (XMS 3200 DDR 400MHz Low Latency)
OS: Win XP Home SP2
HDD: Seagate Barracuda SATA 300GB
HDD: Seagate Barracuda SATA 110GB
Graphic: Powercolor Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb
Monitor: LG L1915S 19" LCD (60hz) SXGA
DVD-Writer: LG GSA-4163B 40x 16x 8x
Midi_Glider
05.12.2005, 03:55 PM
I've tried the PCI usb thing and get identical bugs, don't bother.
Indeed... :(
no improvements what so ever over here as well.
arghhhh....
Best,
midi.
Still getting a lot of audio clicks, esp on busy arp'd patches/
Everythings in time though.
Is it my ear's but I think it sounded phatter, when I was using 1/4 inch jacks out and MIDI (which I'm gonna do until next couple of updates)???
Anyone else think this?
MonkeyMan
07.12.2005, 08:12 PM
It should sound better bud - there is some 24 bit D/A conversion going on at the analogue outputs. A bit better than the 16 bit USB connection... sigh
a cool feature would be to have the USB for recall of all the patches.
And then use the analogue outs for the phatter sound.
Can Access implement this (or is it possible anyhow)
ben crosland
08.12.2005, 08:19 AM
a cool feature would be to have the USB for recall of all the patches.
And then use the analogue outs for the phatter sound.
Can Access implement this (or is it possible anyhow)
It is possible if you set all Parts to Main Out=Out1/2 or 3.
You will need to put in a delay on the sequencer tracks to compensate for the delay compensation that will still be applied, though.
solconnection
08.12.2005, 10:32 PM
It should sound better bud - there is some 24 bit D/A conversion going on at the analogue outputs. A bit better than the 16 bit USB connection... sigh
is this for real?...if so thats shitty...
I had noticed the TI did sound a good bit better using the analogue outs...way more depth and bite, but i thought it must have been in my head... this was using the same patch on 2 different tracks.
hmmmm
have a nice day
-Dan
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