Need Advice, About Soundcard

[Lukas]

hello,


i need some advices, coz i want to buy a good soundcard.

i had an m-audio 192, but it has only two inputs, L and R.

I Have Virus C Desktop, and Roland Jp 8080 and Cubase SX 2.

i wanna a good soundcard to work without problems.

My System configuration is :

Intel Pentium 3 ghz

512 RAM Kingston

MSI NEO 3 865 PE Mainboard.


Could You tell me what soundcard should i choose ?

but remember i can spend 330 Euro on it.

also i want to record more instruments than one ... like a guitarist , bas player, pianist, ETC. i do not have mixer yet. but i want to record them on each other tracks.

to have an option to edit tracks later.

every useful advice appreciated.

cheers.

[electric tribe]

I have a M-audio 1010 card. Now i know they may not be the best on the market but for price range they are in it has done me proud so far. It gives you 10 ins and 10 outs. Plus it is a midi device and has mic ins aswell. And all for around ?160.

[jasedee]

Could You tell me what soundcard should i choose ?
No.

But what you should keep in mind is:

1. How many simultaneous Inputs/Outputs do I need?

2. Do I need MIDI I/O aswel?

3. Are there any known issues with the soundcard and your particular setup (Check forums etc)

4. Do I need mic pre's on the soundcard?

5. Do I want PCI/FW/USB soundcard (I would recommend PCI or FW)

6. Quality comes at a price! Spend as much as you can, try and get the best. If you buy a budget card, chances are you will eventually want to upgrade to something better. Why not just buy something better now!

Good luck mate!

:)

[Khazul]

5. Do I want PCI/FW/USB soundcard (I would recommend PCI or FW)


That was polite - I would say dont touch USB audio with a barge pole :)

[Timo]

PCI and Firewire will give you similar audio latencies. (For example, I'm getting 3ms on my motu traveler (firewire 400).

However PCI will let you use lower MIDI latencies (~1ms, as opposed to ~4 or ~5ms for firewire).

USB v2 audio was slower on the uptake but I reckon we'll start to see more of these cards as coding techniques and hardware implementations for it are becoming more refined.

There was an excellent article about the different types of soundcard implementations (USB vs. PCI vs. Firewire) via interview faceoffs between the largest soundcard companies (RME, Motu, M-Audio, Echo, etc.) in last months Sound-On-Sound.

I reckon they're a bit coy about what they said regards PCI-Express, personally, though. I think PCI-E will be *big*, when it comes around.

[MonkeyMan]

Agree with Timo in relation to future products based on PCI- Express. They won't be around for a while yet while the Firewire based kit appears to be ruling the roost. In the meantime...

A good buddy of mine swears by the RME HDSP Hammerfall 24/96k card if you are looking for a quality computer based soundcard. You can probably pick them up quite cheap these days on ebay.

If you would rather go down the external Firewire/USB 2.0 unit you cannot go wrong looking at either the MOTU or RME range. Try also looking at the latest Mackie Onyx range - the 400F is getting some good press and reviews.

If you are on a budget go for the MOTU or the Mackie range. If you are flush go for the RME range.

Listed below are a few of the units you may wish to research or even demo at your local pro-audio store.

MOTU Traveler - (Firewire)
MOTU 828 MKII - (Firewire or USB 2.0) www.motu.com

RME Fireface 800 - (Firewire)
RME Multiface 2 & PCI bundle www.rme-audio.com

Mackie Onyx 400F - (Firewire) www.mackie.com

It is well worth you saving the extra bucks for such a critical piece of your studio. You can pick up most of the above on ebay very cheap second hand.

All the best.

[Lukas]

im thinking on buying audio delta 1010 ...


it has midi, 8 outs an ins,

so i can connect midi keyboard, my synths (Virus, and Roland jp8000) and studio monitors aswell ?

[Timo]

Hi Lukas, bear in mind the Delta 10/10 has only one pair of midi ins/outs, and also I think lowest audio latency is 8ms at 44.1KHz.

Here's the review from SoundOnSound back in January 2000..

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan00/articles/midiman1010.htm

[AlexHall74]

REF:
Delta 1010; Does it have mic pres? If it doesn't then that is a hindrance; more to buy that is...

Happy Researching and Good luck!

-Alex

[Lukas]

im sorry. ive made a mistake.

but how can i connect the studio monitors to it ? ;)

[Gopal]

Delta 10 10 is a piece of shit

Friend of mine has one and curses it everyday

Go motu or RME as Monkeyman has suggested

[core7]

hello,


i need some advices, coz i want to buy a good soundcard.

i had an m-audio 192, but it has only two inputs, L and R.

I Have Virus C Desktop, and Roland Jp 8080 and Cubase SX 2.

i wanna a good soundcard to work without problems.

My System configuration is :

Intel Pentium 3 ghz

512 RAM Kingston

MSI NEO 3 865 PE Mainboard.


Could You tell me what soundcard should i choose ?

but remember i can spend 330 Euro on it.

also i want to record more instruments than one ... like a guitarist , bas player, pianist, ETC. i do not have mixer yet. but i want to record them on each other tracks.

to have an option to edit tracks later.

every useful advice appreciated.

cheers.


I'll trade you a digidesign digi 001 for that JP8080, :twisted: 8 I/O, mic pre's, midi I/O, pro tools 6.4 and an assload of plug-ins.

I'm joking, but in all honesty it'd be a sweet trade.

[electric tribe]

Delta 10 10 is a piece of shit

Friend of mine has one and curses it everyday

Go motu or RME as Monkeyman has suggested

strange mine is fine.

[Gopal]

Delta 10 10 is a piece of shit

Friend of mine has one and curses it everyday

Go motu or RME as Monkeyman has suggested

strange mine is fine.

Sell it while its still working then and get something fully outboard :wink:

[Timo]

Delta 10 10 is a piece of shit

Which aspects? Otherwise it's hard to put such a post into context.

Thnx

[Lukas]

hmm ... so ? what will i choose ?

i think ill stay with audio delta 1010 ...

hmm . . .


Lukas

[Lukas]

So What sould i buy ?? i Have 420 Euro ! Could be second hand card !

[~+?]

You could always save some more money and get a Virus TI and use the sound card from that. Maybe look for a used RME multiface or one of their other cards.

[Lukas]

couldn't be an audio delta 1010 ?

[Gopal]

Delta 10 10 is a piece of shit

Which aspects? Otherwise it's hard to put such a post into context.

Thnx

Just latency problems, reliability problems and very poor bass response in general.

very hard to hear what the bottom end is doing in a recording. When I swap out his delta 10 10 for my Motu 896 we get way more headroom, less latency and deep and solid bass response from the same monitors.

[Lukas]

i bought an ESI 1010 Soundcard.

thanx for help!