1.0.8 Hanging notes & feedback.

[Sleepwalker]

Were do we report bugs to access?

Latest v.1.0.8, using the hardware synth only.

During 1 hour of testing/playing this happend:

One time: Pops and cracks, ending in killer feedback! (solution: reboot virus)

3 - 4 times: Hanging notes when changing presets. (solution: reboot virus each time)

Wouldnt play with it live just yet! :D

[The girl next door]

Where do we report bugs to access?


http://www.access-music.de/contactus.php4

[ben crosland]

Were do we report bugs to access?

Latest v.1.0.8, using the hardware synth only.

During 1 hour of testing/playing this happend:

One time: Pops and cracks, ending in killer feedback! (solution: reboot virus)

3 - 4 times: Hanging notes when changing presets. (solution: reboot virus each time)

Wouldnt play with it live just yet! :D

Did you try pressing Panic (Mono+Sync) to kill the stuck notes?

Can you remeber what preset you were on and what you were doing when it crashed ("killer feedback")?

[hatembr]

those hanging notes happen even with the Virus C.
I have the latest OS on it (6.5) and i always get that
As ben said, just press Panic and you'll reset all the voices, thats what I do with my C.

[Sleepwalker]

Did you try pressing Panic (Mono+Sync) to kill the stuck notes?

Can you remeber what preset you were on and what you were doing when it crashed ("killer feedback")?

Hi Ben :)

Nope, didnt try to press panic, will do next time! Didnt see it...doh! :P

in lack of a better word I just called it killer feedback, cause it sounded like it could kill my monitors!! it had a sudden constand full-on feedback signal, and I just throwed myself over the mixer! It came from no aparently reason. Think I was just playing the keys. It started with a few seconds of pops and noise, and then sudenly BANG! (bang? :lol: )

I was browsing the presets through categories, it might have something to to with the hung notes. I also usualy twist a lot of parameters when I play. It might give some disturbence on the stability, though it should take it..

First I went through bank a, b, c and d. About two times I got hung notes, just by playing, then pressing next program, and the last note would hang. Then I tried browsing the categories, there I got hanging notes one or two more times. And I ended up with the arpeggios for a while. One of thouse presets made the feedback, dont remember which, cause I paniced! I was playing a bit loud through a couple of genelecs and a sub, and it was quiet a strong sound!!

[ben crosland]

in lack of a better word I just called it killer feedback, cause it sounded like it could kill my monitors!! it had a sudden constand full-on feedback signal, and I just throwed myself over the mixer! It came from no aparently reason. Think I was just playing the keys. It started with a few seconds of pops and noise, and then sudenly BANG! (bang? :lol: )

Yeah, that's the sound of DSP crash - nice, isn't it? ;)

[Khazul]

Feature suggestion - a little background watchdog routine driven off hardware interrupt like you get in mobile phone to check that the OS is till functioning roughly OK and mute the outs and force a reboot if it aint.

At least then I wont have to run around like a headless chicken in a state of panic trying to locate and kill the volume in near dark :)

Happened to me the other day when I had the levels quite high and despite having a limiter and feedback destroyer inline - it still made my ears ring a bit.

[dr. orange]

isn't it being limited?

[Khazul]

Amp is after the limiter - so yes - a little, but I only have it inline (between mixer and monitor controller) to stop the worst of these crash screeches - I dont want it messing with normal functioning sounds :)

Its the feedback destroyer that does the best job but it takes a little while to decide it needs to do something about it and start attenuating the worst offending frequency bands - the one consolation is it keeps on attenuating expecting the feedback to stop - but its looking for high level sine waves - not raw digital clipping.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Is there anything one can do in order to stop those loud, uncontrollable bangs/screeches from coming through? Because it is unpleasant and sometimes very shocking at high volume levels. Its about time Access addressed that issue once and for all as Ive not heard or experienced anyone complaining about other synths doing that. This is why the Virus isnt used often in a Live setting....that too needs to be rectified.

DS

[techno_7]

Funny, i've never had a problem with my virus(classic) and i've played with it live quite a few times!

[hatembr]

another thing always happens with my C
parts' levels seem to go lower and lower as long as it plays back. This doesn't happen in few seconds but after playing lots of parts simultanously. When I press Panic and play back again, i notice the difference in levels. As if they were reset to their maximum level.
So I always have to press Panic before playing back from my sequencer to be sure I get the max levels on my parts.
I didn't understand why this happens. Anyway, i am used to it now, it's not blocking me. :roll:

[marc]

This is why the Virus isnt used often in a Live setting....that too needs to be rectified.
DS

who told you that the virus isn't used much on stage?

marc

[Sleepwalker]

This is why the Virus isnt used often in a Live setting....that too needs to be rectified.
DS

why told you that the virus isn't used much on stage?

marc

Yes, ive seen it a LOT on stages! Especialy on psy-festivals, you always see it.. :)

[dr. orange]

This is why the Virus isnt used often in a Live setting....that too needs to be rectified.
DS

why told you that the virus isn't used much on stage?

marc

Yes, ive seen it a LOT on stages! Especialy on psy-festivals, you always see it.. :)
you are probably hallucinating then :wink:

[Sleepwalker]

This is why the Virus isnt used often in a Live setting....that too needs to be rectified.
DS

why told you that the virus isn't used much on stage?

marc

Yes, ive seen it a LOT on stages! Especialy on psy-festivals, you always see it.. :)
you are probably hallucinating then :wink:

heheheh! no coment! :roll:

[Nightfall]

in lack of a better word I just called it killer feedback, cause it sounded like it could kill my monitors!! it had a sudden constand full-on feedback signal, and I just throwed myself over the mixer! It came from no aparently reason. Think I was just playing the keys. It started with a few seconds of pops and noise, and then sudenly BANG! (bang? :lol: )

Yeah, that's the sound of DSP crash - nice, isn't it? ;)


It would be nice if they could sort it out Ben. My Virus C was as stable as you like. The TI, although just a far better product in every way, is just now stable enough. Stuck notes, screeching, hanging up. Which requires a PC re-boot because you have to unplug the TI, which means it no longer works in the sequencer. it is a bit of a pain.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

This is why the Virus isnt used often in a Live setting....that too needs to be rectified.
DS

who told you that the virus isn't used much on stage?

marc

Thinking about it.....its probably got something to do with the genre of music im into. It's probably heavily used in dance/electronic genres and often used live.....but i dont keep up with that scene. For pop music I dont see it that often :cry:

DS

[Sleepwalker]

Gawd, its constant clicking in Ableton 5.03, with Mackie Onyx FW mixer! heheh, dam! Cant wait to use this beast!!!

Should I downgrade, or wait til 1.1...hmm

[solconnection]

Gawd, its constant clicking in Ableton 5.03, with Mackie Onyx FW mixer! heheh, dam! Cant wait to use this beast!!!

Should I downgrade, or wait til 1.1...hmm

im skipping 1.08 and waiting for 1.1, everythings going pretty well on 1.07, dont want to risk stuffing it up when no new features have really been added.

have a nice day
-Dan

[Sleepwalker]

Gawd, its constant clicking in Ableton 5.03, with Mackie Onyx FW mixer! heheh, dam! Cant wait to use this beast!!!

Should I downgrade, or wait til 1.1...hmm

im skipping 1.08 and waiting for 1.1, everythings going pretty well on 1.07, dont want to risk stuffing it up when no new features have really been added.

have a nice day
-Dan

Yeah, seems like he way to go...

[Sleepwalker]

Gawd, its constant clicking in Ableton 5.03, with Mackie Onyx FW mixer! heheh, dam! Cant wait to use this beast!!!

Should I downgrade, or wait til 1.1...hmm

im skipping 1.08 and waiting for 1.1, everythings going pretty well on 1.07, dont want to risk stuffing it up when no new features have really been added.

have a nice day
-Dan

OK, so I uninstaled 1.08, and reinstaled 1.07. Rebooted. Started Live again: Still constant clicks and pops when playing sounds from the Ti...

[MonkeyMan]

Sleepwalker. What buffer size are you using in your DAW?

[Sleepwalker]

Sleepwalker. What buffer size are you using in your DAW?

Im using Live 5.03, on a intel centrino M 2ghz laptop. Soundcard is Onyx Mackie FW mixer conected to the firewire port. In the usb ports, I have the Virus Ti, a Korg micro kontrol, and an X-Station.

Output Latency is set to 85 ms

I have no clue about latency! :P

[Sleepwalker]

Yikes! Now the virus control interface want load at all. It starts, but just freezes instantly. Reeboted a few times. Tried some different latency setings. Same problem still. This is the 1.07 dirver.

Hey girl next door, what you think about this?

[MonkeyMan]

Sleepwalker. Try a buffer setting of 256 and take it from there - the lower the buffer setting the more the CPU drain which can cause all sorts of freezing if it's overworked. Shut down all unused background programs - including internet connections, spyware, virus software etc. Let us know how you get on...