Version 1.1 info available at Access' website

[jivamukti]

Need I say more?

http://access-music.de/news.php4#news96

[dr. orange]

if that's true what it's being told in the mailing list, we can look forwart to a bomb stable virus and ti!

[nutekk]

why is the remote mode "new"?
its actually an original feature never implemented.

:P :P :P
"It is lightning fast and can literally search ten thousand patches in a couple of milliseconds."

are you sure that is "literal". I am not sure i can belive this outlandish claim.

[Acidman]

Nice! Looks like I will buy it in feb then.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

It is lightning fast and can literally search ten thousand patches in a couple of milliseconds."

are you sure that is "literal". I am not sure i can belive this outlandish claim.

Its possible that it uses 'Google'....because that too can search thousands of things in seconds

DS

[MADSTATION]

Will it be sample accurate?

I sure do hope so ;)
If only the timing could be PERFECT.

[Matthias Adloff]

Will it be sample accurate?

I sure do hope so ;)
If only the timing could be PERFECT.

That is the only thing that would be interesting.

"Patch name search" - bah, how useless is THAT ! It would be better to concentrate on better patches (only HansJ?rg Scheffler did a great job here) so that you don?t need thousands to make them fit to your music...

Btw., which mailing list ? Is there some more detailled info about the bug-fixes ?

Cheers,
Matthias

[Matthias Adloff]

Stooopid me. Found the list.

Well, I feel a little bit fooled when I read Marc?s posts concerning the "better USB than MIDI for accurate timing".

I experience the opposite. Over the MIDEX8 (an Access product) I get absolutely accurate timings out of most of my synths. NordLead2 is the most perfect machine, having just a random deviation of <1ms. But the TI also works fine here, with a deviance between 0,5 and 1,5 ms.

Over USB these values are impossible. I tried several USB controllers, but it?s always the same picture. The Virus has a deviance of up to 8 (!!!!) ms. It?s completely random, unlike MIDI (where it get?s worse the more data is sent, especially continous controllers). It sounds like unquantized sequences.

I?ll wait for 1.1 before I make a claim of refund against Kemper Digital GmbH.

Greetings
Matthias

[Guzzy]

Over the MIDEX8 (an Access product)
an Access product? ....hmm :wink:

[Timo]

The Midex 8 is a Steinberg midi 8i/o usb unit, nay?

Also, no news about additions/updates regarding the actual sound itself? Filters, user wavetables, etc.?

I'd best change my sig, then.....

[Matthias Adloff]

Over the MIDEX8 (an Access product)
an Access product? ....hmm :wink:

Designed and distributed by Steinberg, built by Access, indeed.

[marc]

Over USB these values are impossible. I tried several USB controllers, but it?s always the same picture. The Virus has a deviance of up to 8 (!!!!) ms. It?s completely random, unlike MIDI (where it get?s worse the more data is sent, especially continous controllers). It sounds like unquantized sequences.

I?ll wait for 1.1 before I make a claim of refund against Kemper Digital GmbH.

Greetings
Matthias

which sequencer are you using?

marc

[Guzzy]

Designed and distributed by Steinberg, built by Access, indeed.

OK , nice to know, then I got two Access products :lol:


Buyed two low price 19" LCD screens today:
http://home.online.no/~gosather/studio/2006jan/DSC00870.JPG

[Midi_Glider]

Buyed two low price 19" LCD screens today

nice. but unless the photo angle is very misleading, don`t they block your entire listening field now?....


Best,
midi.

[Guzzy]

...don`t they block your entire listening field now?....
.

Yes, they do :roll:
But maybe I can use the includet speakers instead, :P

[Matthias Adloff]

which sequencer are you using?

marc

Nuendo 3.2

[marc]

which sequencer are you using?

marc

Nuendo 3.2

nuendo is not supported.

marc

[Matthias Adloff]

which sequencer are you using?

marc

Nuendo 3.2

nuendo is not supported.

marc

:lol: GOOD ONE, Marc !!!

But ain`t Cubase SX and Nuendo technically identical?

[Matthias Adloff]

Hmmm.

Marc, all info about the differences between SX and Nuendo are: There are none.

But you still got me scratching my head, coz Access really only names SX but not Nuendo. Could be a left-out (coz it?s obvious), but could be anything else.

Ok. Will install SX today. I remember Midi_Glider told something similar, that SX was running and Nuendo not. I still can?t believe that, though...

[Midi_Glider]

Hi Matthias,

The only main problem I have with VC in noendo is the clock timing issue. everything else seems pretty similar to the way it works in SX (witch is rather good, ATM). single notes lines in Nuendo play and export in a sample accurate manner on almost every occasion (only arps seems to be messed up big time).

This difference between SX and nuendo had me baffled for a long time too. I`ve never noticed any plugins performing differently in those two apps - up until VC. I suppose that there is something different after all...perhaps in the way the clock is handled in Nuendo or something similar.

In any case, I do believe (and hope) that access would get around to fixing the Nuendo problems sooner rather then later...Its quite understandable why they choose to get the SX support solid first: a considerably larger user base in comparison to the comparatively small group of Nuendo users. perhaps if enough of us Nuendians would present ourselves as Ti owners and request it, a fix would come sooner.


I think it would be brilliant if we could convince Jake68 to purchase a Ti unit...LOL :twisted:


How about another demo, Matthias?... :wink:

Best,
midi.

[Matthias Adloff]

Demo ;) great idea:

.."and here we hear the TI drifting away which shows that he?s simply so much faster than all the other synths...awesome ! Just like advertised !"

..."and for the climax after 3/4 of the demo it?s now about time for the amazing DSP crash !"

Joke aside. Need to get that fixed and I?d be SOMEWHAT shocked when SX would sync better than Nuendo does ! Yeah, I would inform Jake68 immediately :lol:

Peaceful greetings,
Matthias

PS.: The only headache I have is that I need to install an H2O version of SX which will greatly conflict with my dongle... not much of a win/win stituation.

[Midi_Glider]

PS.: The only headache I have is that I need to install an H2O version of SX which will greatly conflict with my dongle... not much of a win/win stituation.

I hope you havn`t yet!!! 8O

SX would run perfectly using your legit Nuendo licence!!! (I have a separate dongle for each, but can freely run both apps using the Nuendo dongle only).

Best,
midi.

[Matthias Adloff]

PS.: The only headache I have is that I need to install an H2O version of SX which will greatly conflict with my dongle... not much of a win/win stituation.

I hope you havn`t yet!!! 8O

SX would run perfectly using your legit Nuendo licence!!! (I have a separate dongle for each, but can freely run both apps using the Nuendo dongle only).

Best,
midi.

I know, but I don?t have the original installer for SX.

Nevertheless:

IT IS TRUE !!!!!

I installed SX and the Virus TI behaves completely correct. At least the Arps are in sync, with the Cubase Arpache I still get some deviance in timing, but this could be Steinberg to blame. Once more.

One sideeffect: Also my other synths that are receiving MIDI clock do behave much better than with Nuendo. They are always in sync, not only every third time I hit play.

Another sideeffect, but this is interesting for legit Steinberg users only: It?s true what H2O says. Using their emu instead of the real dongle indeed frees up some CPU. For audio it seems to make no significant difference (if any), but when using MIDI or VSTis, the difference is really huge. I loaded a project where I made excessive use of VSTis and that always had problems in playback at lower latencies. I always thought this was due to the HD-performance. But NO, IT IS NOT ! The HDs have no problem when using the emu, the problem is elsewhere. Phew. I feel fooled. Somewhat fooled !

Woaw, like this I really love my TI and say a big sorry to Marc, you were completely right with this.

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Now the dark side. What will I do with this information ? Of course I will post it to the Nuendo forum. But which conclusion to draw ?

[Midi_Glider]

Well, its time to post in the Nuendo forum I suppose...


Best,
midi.