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TeenGirlLust
14.02.2006, 02:34 PM
I was just on Access's website and there is a ton of shit from NAMM and every where else about the Virus TI , but nothing about the Classic desktop (which is also a pretty new product from Access)......I don't know about you , but, I paid a grand for my Virus (Which for a regular working guy like me is a lot of fuckin' money) Sorry I did not throw you another $1,600 but FUCK YOU Access! I am not saying anything against TI user's........it's just this corparate bullshit that pisses me off.........same reason I will never buy a Harley Davidson. SEEYA!!!!!!!!

Tomer=Trance
14.02.2006, 03:18 PM
sorry to say but you bought a reissued virus b basicly...
i had the same thing 2 years ago when i bought my virus rack,they havent upgraded it since.

ledge
14.02.2006, 05:16 PM
I'm not sure what the problem is. The Classic is a re-packaged Virus B and the OS for it is currently stable and bug free. They aren't going to be adding any new features to it, ever. You've still got a very good synth but had to pay considerably less for it than a TI.

TeenGirlLust
14.02.2006, 05:24 PM
I know it is a reissued B.....but shit they could have supported it a little better......shit even the demo they use for it "endorphines" .......they could have at least came up with a new demo......I mean it is a Virus, and does have a kick ass sound to it (and "Endorphines" sucks, IMO). It just pisses me off (THE GREED).......Yes the TI is cool........Yes the TI is deeper than the Classic. But for a grand a piece (and I know that I am not the only one that has bought one).........SHAME ON YOU ACCESS!!!!!

TeenGirlLust
14.02.2006, 05:35 PM
I'm not sure what the problem is. Yeah , well let's be honest, how much do you think for part's and assembly it cost's to reissue a B....$200 - $300 I would bet...... So no offense but your "I'm not sure what the problem is" attitude just show's that maybe you should read my posting a little slower and try a little harder to comprehend it.

TeenGirlLust
14.02.2006, 05:45 PM
They aren't going to be adding any new features to it, ever. Ok......so that means they can basically do a crappy job marketing/Supporting it????? I keep hearing that Access is such a great company......and one of the only one's that truely stands behind thier products.........All I am saying is NOT TRUE.......they just want you to buy thier newest/ most expensive product !!!!!

Timo
14.02.2006, 06:44 PM
Buy a synth for what it is at any one time.

The Classic is sold as a finished product, namely the VirusB engine. If you wanted any more at the time you should have gone with a VirusC.

Or is that too obvious? :roll:

Smag
14.02.2006, 07:36 PM
SHAME ON YOU ACCESS!!!!!

Not to blow sugar up the arse of Access or anything but I think their customer care is better than most - have you ever asked for support from Roland?

TeenGirlLust
14.02.2006, 08:40 PM
Buy a synth for what it is at any one time.

The Classic is sold as a finished product, namely the VirusB engine. If you wanted any more at the time you should have gone with a VirusC.

Or is that too obvious? :roll:What the hell does this have to do with anything I have written? No shit the Classic is a finished product......so once the TI is completly upgraded (and all the bugs are worked out of the O.S.) then should Access stop marketing / supporting it (Espeacially if they are still selling it). Or should they put all of thier focus on what ever new product they are selling for the highest price! I know it seems like I am completly dogging out Access and you for that fact ( I am sorry that is not my goal.......I am trying to make the point of that if you are selling a product for $1,000 you should......put a little more support behind it.....not just put all your energy into the product that is selling for the most money)! I really love my Virus Classic desktop and am thankfull to Access for selling it ........ Well hopefully you get my point......SEEYA!!!!

TeenGirlLust
14.02.2006, 08:42 PM
SHAME ON YOU ACCESS!!!!!

Not to blow sugar up the arse of Access or anything but I think their customer care is better than most - have you ever asked for support from Roland? Yeah but 2 wrong's don't make a right. And I was not talking about customer support.

jasedee
14.02.2006, 08:58 PM
What the fuck are you complaining about???

Not enough marketing of an old product???

No support??? What do you mean no support??? You have some issues mate, and if this shit is all you have to complain about, you need to get some fucking perspective. FFS

Seriously.

$1000 is peanuts to pay for an awesome fucking synth. I spent almost 3 times that on my Virus C, and Im as happy as larry. It is still unclear to me just exactly WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS???

You need to stop worrying about the marketing of a product and start programming you Virus mate. Do something constructive and creative.

TeenGirlLust
14.02.2006, 09:07 PM
What the fuck are you complaining about???

Not enough marketing of an old product???

No support??? What do you mean no support??? You have some issues mate, and if this shit is all you have to complain about, you need to get some fucking perspective. FFS

Seriously.

$1000 is peanuts to pay for an awesome fucking synth. I spent almost 3 times that on my Virus C, and Im as happy as larry. It is still unclear to me just exactly WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS???

You need to stop worrying about the marketing of a product and start programming you Virus mate. Do something constructive and creative.Obviously I pissed off a guy from marketing!!! ( That's who you work for right)? And if you paid 3 times what I paid on a Classic then maybe you should ask yourself "Why did Access get rid of my C" (instead of upgrading the fucking thing) "And are now trying to pound the TI up my ass" ????? I am completely happy with my Virus classic (I have not said once that it is a bad board) (I have not said that Access has shitty customer support) (I have said that they are doing a crappy job marketing the Classic desktop)!!!!!! Also my friend has a Virus C and an original minimoog and personally I think my Nord 2 x (which was based on a prophet) does a better job emulating the mini than the Virus filter does........OK HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE UPSET WITH ME NOW!!!!!!!! :twisted:

F5D
14.02.2006, 09:40 PM
Virus Classic is just a renamed Virus B (which is discontinued) and the reason why Access sell it is that there are so many people who want to buy a cheaper/older Virus model, not the flagship model. And it's quite obvious that it won't have any major OS updates because the current os for Virus B works very well and doesn't need updates. And they are already using the dsp of the synth to the maximum. If you take a look at the Virus B's history, you can see that there were lots of os updates and even the reverb wasn't included at first. They added it later among other features. There are still many studios which use Virus B and haven't even upgraded to C because the B is already a very good synth and gives you the classic Virus sound without any compromises.

TeenGirlLust
14.02.2006, 10:45 PM
There are still many studios which use Virus B and haven't even upgraded to C because the B is already a very good synth and gives you the classic Virus sound without any compromises. VERY TRUE.

Hollowcell
14.02.2006, 11:09 PM
OK HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE UPSET WITH ME NOW!!!!!!!! :twisted:

That's the spirit! We haven't seen a hate thread for ages. :D

aisling
14.02.2006, 11:25 PM
I was just on Access's website and there is a ton of shit from NAMM and every where else about the Virus TI , but nothing about the Classic desktop (which is also a pretty new product from Access)......I don't know about you , but, I paid a grand for my Virus (Which for a regular working guy like me is a lot of fuckin' money) Sorry I did not throw you another $1,600 but FUCK YOU Access! I am not saying anything against TI user's........it's just this corparate bullshit that pisses me off.........same reason I will never buy a Harley Davidson. SEEYA!!!!!!!!

In some sense I feel you, Being a novice to access products until about a year ago when I began watching the T1 debut, I was imediatley "sold up" into the t1 models thinking that the classic would be a sub par investment......how much of that was due to marketing hype? About 50% I am sure....Sometimes We get so caught up in tech/specs that we forget the great music made using traditional midi in/out into a midi converter and then into the host computer......

I have pulled out a lot of my early astral projection (1995+) cd's latley to remind my self not to get caught up in it......

I am a working guy as well, with kids an a mountaneering gear addiction as well......

Drammy
15.02.2006, 07:00 AM
I don't get it - has there been an official statement saying that there will be no more development of the Classic OS?

Drammy

ben crosland
15.02.2006, 07:20 AM
I don't get it - has there been an official statement saying that there will be no more development of the Classic OS?

Drammy

There was never a statement that there would be.

jasedee
15.02.2006, 10:18 AM
Obviously I pissed off a guy from marketing!!! ( That's who you work for right)?
Nope. Just a student here, working part time in a small coffee shop

And if you paid 3 times what I paid on a Classic then maybe you should ask yourself "Why did Access get rid of my C" (instead of upgrading the fucking thing)
Access didnt get rid of my C, when I bought it (a few years ago now) there were a couple of updates, including the Moog filters. Great stuff by the way.

"And are now trying to pound the TI up my ass" ?????
Access arent trying to pound anything up my arse. Im not interested in buying a TI. Therefore the marketing bears no consequence on my life. Even if I did want a TI, I wouldnt let marketing dictate what I bought. Thats what suckers are for (like yourself)

I am completely happy with my Virus classic
Good on ya...

(I have said that they are doing a crappy job marketing the Classic desktop)!!!!!!
You dont get it, do you... Are SONY still marketing products that are a few years old? NO... they arent. They are marketing their new shit, even though the old shit is available in stores.

Also my friend has a Virus C and an original minimoog and personally I think my Nord 2 x (which was based on a prophet) does a better job emulating the mini than the Virus filter does........OK HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE UPSET WITH ME NOW!!!!!!!! :twisted:
Everyone is entitled to an opinion... Even you.

jasedee
15.02.2006, 10:20 AM
OK HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE UPSET WITH ME NOW!!!!!!!! :twisted:

That's the spirit! We haven't seen a hate thread for ages. :D
Mate, you need to get involved! You always sit on the sidelines you pussy! Grow a pair...

(Hows that for HATE :twisted: :twisted: )

;)

MonkeyMan
15.02.2006, 10:40 AM
STOP FUCKING SWEARING!!!!

Hollowcell
15.02.2006, 11:34 AM
OK HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE UPSET WITH ME NOW!!!!!!!! :twisted:

That's the spirit! We haven't seen a hate thread for ages. :D
Mate, you need to get involved! You always sit on the sidelines you pussy! Grow a pair...

(Hows that for HATE :twisted: :twisted: )

;)

But if I get involved I'd be worried my nice, sweet, wholesome online image would be ruined. I'm the nice guy mixed in with all you low-life cunts - maybe you didn't notice. :D

Access arent trying to pound anything up my arse. Im not interested in buying a TI. Therefore the marketing bears no consequence on my life. Even if I did want a TI, I wouldnt let marketing dictate what I bought. Thats what suckers are for (like yourself)
. Gave me a real laugh this bit. :D

TeenGirlLust
15.02.2006, 02:05 PM
Nope. Just a student here, working part time in a small coffee shop

I should have guessed a faggot coffee maker trying to write Techno 8O Access didnt get rid of my C, when I bought it (a few years ago now) there were a couple of updates, including the Moog filters. Great stuff by the way.
Yes they did get rid/stop making the model C , they replaced it with the TI..........and lets just see if there will be anymore updates for the C (I would'nt hold my breath if I were You.......thankfully I'm not) :roll: : Even if I did want a TI, I wouldnt let marketing dictate what I bought. Thats what suckers are for (like yourself)
'NO NAME CALLING!!!! YOU.......YOU CHILD MOLESTING GOAT FUCKER' :twisted: : You dont get it, do you... Are SONY still marketing products that are a few years old? NO... they arent. They are marketing their new shit, even though the old shit is available in stores.
The Classic Desktop is not that old of a product!!! :roll:

Drammy
15.02.2006, 02:39 PM
Even if I did want a TI, I wouldnt let marketing dictate what I bought. Thats what suckers are for (like yourself)
'NO NAME CALLING!!!! YOU.......YOU CHILD MOLESTING GOAT FUCKER' :twisted:

I find a comment like this hard to swallow from someone who chose their username to be TEENGIRLLUST! Unbelievable!

digitalgeist
15.02.2006, 03:03 PM
:lol:

Yes, soon Access will announce the "Homophobic Pedophile" upgrade for their Classic modules....

3o3
15.02.2006, 03:09 PM
Ah. Hatred is strong in Teengirllust..! He'll be drawn to the dark side of vengence, seeking virus-synthesizer to slaughter during the fullmoon.. Soon his transformation from human into a DSP-card will be complete!

Although. I really can't see what the problem is.. You bought an virus-synthesizer that works just fine and you want even more? Why didn't you go for an used C instead if you wanted ? You'd probably would gotten it alot cheaper from ebay than a brandnew classic.

EDIT:
Yes, soon Access will announce the "Homophobic Pedophile" upgrade for their Classic modules....

I really love their new "Michael Jackson Filter" - It's marketed as; Touching the young boys genitals while you are on stage tweaking your knob live.. Great move by Access and from rumours i've heard it will be available as an upgrade for the 'classic' soon.

TeenGirlLust
15.02.2006, 03:22 PM
I find a comment like this hard to swallow from someone who chose their username to be TEENGIRLLUST! TEENGIRLLUST is an emotion that only a teenage girl can have .......The band name is not 'I lust teenage girls' . And anyway it was not directed at you

TeenGirlLust
15.02.2006, 03:32 PM
Ah. Hatred is strong in Teengirllust..! He'll be drawn to the dark side of vengence, seeking virus-synthesizer to slaughter during the fullmoon.. Soon his transformation from human into a DSP-card will be complete!
he,he,he!!!!Why didn't you go for an used C instead if you wanted ? I never said I wanted a Virus C (If I had a choice I would rather have the original Indigo......it look's like it's from outer space.....very cool)! The minimoog filter emulation in the C really doesn't interest me that much (And the red led , I could not imagine staring at it for hours on end......no offense).

Trance Explorer
15.02.2006, 04:40 PM
If it aint broke.. dont fix it ;)



No need for an update.. the B\Classic is a quality synth.

Theres a lot lots sound banks available on the access site.

Access will be putting all their time into the TI, trying to make it work properly for a start :lol:

Just be greatfull for what you have.. the only people who should be angry are the TI owners and the Virus powercore owners.. because those do actually need the updates and support.

TeenGirlLust
15.02.2006, 05:13 PM
Access will be putting all their time into the TI, trying to make it work properly for a start

Just be greatfull for what you have.. the only people who should be angry are the TI owners and the Virus powercore owners.. because those do actually need the updates and support. VERY TRUE!!!!!

ledge
15.02.2006, 05:22 PM
Yeah , well let's be honest, how much do you think for part's and assembly it cost's to reissue a B....$200 - $300 I would bet...... So no offense but your "I'm not sure what the problem is" attitude just show's that maybe you should read my posting a little slower and try a little harder to comprehend it.

STOP THE PRESS!!!

COMPANIES SELL PRODUCTS FOR MORE THAN THEY COST TO PRODUCE!!!!

WHO'D OF THUNK IT?

So why did you buy it then if you weren't happy about this?

ledge
15.02.2006, 05:26 PM
Ok......so that means they can basically do a crappy job marketing/Supporting it????? I keep hearing that Access is such a great company......and one of the only one's that truely stands behind thier products.........All I am saying is NOT TRUE.......they just want you to buy thier newest/ most expensive product !!!!!

Have you even needed support for the Classic? I'd have thought the OS was pretty much bug free by now.

And why would they market heavily anything but their flagship product?

Again, I'm not really sure why you are upset. You want them to spend money advertising the Classic because you have already bought one? What purpose would that serve?

MADSTATION
15.02.2006, 06:45 PM
I totally agree with Ledge here :)

The girl next door
15.02.2006, 07:06 PM
I went down a Ford Dealers the other day for some spare parts (New Double head lights)for my 1979 Mk2 Ford Escort RS 2000...They didn't have the spare parts for this Classic Vehicle the Bastards... :lol: Sorry couldn't resist :lol: ...Was a great car though
Thought i better change the subject
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http://www.speedydelivery.co.uk/media/escort_mk2_rs2000_a.jpg

marc
15.02.2006, 08:07 PM
:lol:

Yes, soon Access will announce the "Homophobic Pedophile" upgrade for their Classic modules....

no, we just discontinue it so this thread won't happen again ;)

marc

dries
15.02.2006, 08:14 PM
:lol:

Yes, soon Access will announce the "Homophobic Pedophile" upgrade for their Classic modules....

no, we just discontinue it so this thread won't happen again ;)

marc

LOL! that's mr. "product dictator" talking straight.

DIGITAL SCREAMS
15.02.2006, 08:38 PM
This thread is 100% pointless. There is no way Access would or should market a product which has already been establised for 3 years. No company does that....not even big giants like Microsoft.....do you see them marketing the shit out of Windows 98?....Hell there are still '98 users out there! Come off it....

DS

The girl next door
15.02.2006, 08:42 PM
There is no way Access would or should market a product which has already been establised for 3 years. No company does that
So i won't be getting me headlights then :cry: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Or did you guys not get the meaning of the Ford Escort Joke??????

DIGITAL SCREAMS
15.02.2006, 08:46 PM
Its a shame....because its a nice car :lol:

Has some kinda Mad Max atmosphere going on there....I like it

DS

3o3
15.02.2006, 09:35 PM
not even big giants like Microsoft.....do you see them marketing the shit out of Windows 98?

Of course not.. It has been 8 years since Win98 - they are currently promoting their top of the line; Win2000!

Hollowcell
15.02.2006, 10:04 PM
Ah. Hatred is strong in Teengirllust..! He'll be drawn to the dark side of vengence, seeking virus-synthesizer to slaughter during the fullmoon.. Soon his transformation from human into a DSP-card will be complete!

Although. I really can't see what the problem is.. You bought an virus-synthesizer that works just fine and you want even more? Why didn't you go for an used C instead if you wanted ? You'd probably would gotten it alot cheaper from ebay than a brandnew classic.

EDIT:
Yes, soon Access will announce the "Homophobic Pedophile" upgrade for their Classic modules....

I really love their new "Michael Jackson Filter" - It's marketed as; Touching the young boys genitals while you are on stage tweaking your knob live.. Great move by Access and from rumours i've heard it will be available as an upgrade for the 'classic' soon.

This whole post is priceless! :D

TeenGirlLust
15.02.2006, 10:18 PM
OK......I'm bored with this......have fun boy's & girls...............glad I can cause controversy...................

The girl next door
15.02.2006, 10:45 PM
OK......I'm bored with this......have fun boy's & girls...............glad I can cause controversy...................
Only because back in the 70s and 80s you Americans that those strange 5.0Ltr Dukes of Hazard cars and not
great cars like us in Europe ...
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http://auta5p.car.cz/katalog/reliant/robin_01.jpg
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http://www.chooseyouritem.com/autos/photos/63000/63363.1959.Morris.Minor.jpg

jasedee
15.02.2006, 10:52 PM
I should have guessed a faggot coffee maker trying to write Techno 8O
Since when do I make Techno?

:?

Anyway, I think you've caused yourself enough embarassment by now, so it's good that you decided to abandon this thread.

TeenGirlLust
15.02.2006, 11:06 PM
Anyway, I think you've caused yourself enough embarassment by now, so it's good that you decided to abandon this thread.
Your right! I'm sorry I embarassed you.......the world need's coffee servers too............all jokes aside thou .......I think you made a lot of very interesting points to my original thread.......and I enjoyed the argument..........now I have been trying to get at least half as many responses for my question on the NIN sound from 'Terrible lie' it is in the sound design section .....I am going to have to post the mp3 file for the question......hopefully some of you guy's with more experiance than I have with the Virus can answer it for me.......SEEYA!!!!!

diy
16.02.2006, 12:25 AM
glad I can cause controversy...................
From your first post and your nickname, this is obvious. If you dont have another interest dont bother us, there are many football fans out there to fight with.

TeenGirlLust
16.02.2006, 12:37 AM
From your first post and your nickname, this is obvious. If you dont have another interest dont bother us, there are many football fans out there to fight with.
Yeah.....ok ......lol.

jasedee
16.02.2006, 08:03 AM
Time to pass around the peace pipe, much to the displeasure of Hollowcell Im sure...

:lol:

All in good fun eh? Next time, lets fight in the off topic sector :twisted:

TeenGirlLust
16.02.2006, 10:01 AM
Time to pass around the peace pipe Thank you......it was just a comment (something I was feeling at the moment )............but shit........I wouldn't be on this forum if I didn't love my Virus !!!!!!! And you guy's kick ass.......thanks for all the responses.....SEE YA!!!!!

3o3
16.02.2006, 12:31 PM
This whole post is priceless!

I am bloody tired.. I don't know where i got it from.. the lack of sleep?

Time to pass around the peace pipe, much to the displeasure of Hollowcell Im sure...

There has been to much smoke here lately. Time to clean up this mess and move on to a more dangerous area. Scrotum, balls and chewing gum is what we need now.. Only Alex could save us with his manly love.. Will he be an smoothie-drink before time runs out..

Elektrobolt
22.02.2006, 06:33 PM
I was just on Access's website and there is a ton of shit from NAMM and every where else about the Virus TI , but nothing about the Classic desktop (which is also a pretty new product from Access)......I don't know about you , but, I paid a grand for my Virus (Which for a regular working guy like me is a lot of fuckin' money) Sorry I did not throw you another $1,600 but FUCK YOU Access! I am not saying anything against TI user's........it's just this corparate bullshit that pisses me off.........same reason I will never buy a Harley Davidson. SEEYA!!!!!!!!

You don't see ANY other companies launching any "new" things for old machines at NAMM...

Anyone reading the product overview would see that the Classic is a machine collecting all versions of the Virus up until and including the Virus B into one slick neat package; not a "new" machine.

You imply that there should be updates, ads, etc. for your newly aquired machine, -which is understandable- (since it may be new to YOU). It is now, however, two years later and with the Virus C even being discontinued, I don't think that the B series will be enhanced much. AND, I am absolutely positive that if you found something WRONG with the software, Access would have it fixed in a heartbeat.

Personally, I wouldn't categorize Access Music into the "corparate bullshit" section; they are FAR from it! I have followed this company since the original Virus, and they ALWAYS took good care of me as a customer.

(And no, I do NOT work for Access Music! :lol: )

Khazul
22.02.2006, 08:41 PM
Hell there are still '98 users out there! Come off it....

DS

Apparently so despite our best efforts - thankfully support for it ended last year :)

Hollowcell
22.02.2006, 11:34 PM
I'm still using 98!
Just downloaded all the updates and files I could find for
it last week.

I even installed it on my new DAW as buying an English copy of
XP over here will cost a fortune. Also many shops say it
will take weeks (if not months) to order.

And to keep up with my 90s image, I'm still running Cubase VST3.5
as SX3 won't run on 98.

Tell you what though, I should have upgraded from my
Celeron 800 with 128meg years ago! I've noticed a
slight difference to say the least. Hehehe.

psyoptik
07.03.2006, 05:54 AM
teen girl lust you are a fucking wanker!! seriously have issues man what your
rapping shit about doesn't help anyone in any way , you are a very very small human being and people have better shit to do like making way bettermusic than you will ever make, than whinge useless crap.

i own a virus classic and love it to pieces, the fact that you can download all those sound sets from the webite should be good enough for every classic user.

shut up and get a life.

jasedee
07.03.2006, 10:13 AM
teen girl lust you are a fucking wanker!! seriously have issues man what your
rapping shit about doesn't help anyone in any way , you are a very very small human being and people have better shit to do like making way bettermusic than you will ever make, than whinge useless crap.

i own a virus classic and love it to pieces, the fact that you can download all those sound sets from the webite should be good enough for every classic user.

shut up and get a life.
Although I do enjoy a good ol flame war, I think this issue should be burried. I think he was just stirring, and it's all water under the bridge now...

DIGITAL SCREAMS
07.03.2006, 04:44 PM
Its at times like this....

Somewhere over the rainbow
Way up high
There's a land that I heard of
Once in a lullaby

Somewhere over the rainbow
Skies are blue
And the dreams that you dare to dream
Really do come true

Some day I'll wish upon a star
And wake up where the clouds are far behind me
Where troubles melt like lemondrops
Away above the chimney tops
That's where you'll find me

Somewhere over the rainbow
Bluebirds fly
Birds fly over the rainbow
Why then, oh why can't I?
Some day I'll wish upon a star
And wake up where the clouds are far behind me
Where troubles melt like lemondrops
Away above the chimney tops
That's where you'll find me

Somewhere over the rainbow
Bluebirds fly
Birds fly over the rainbow
Why then, oh why can't I?

If happy little bluebirds fly
Beyond the rainbow
Why, oh why can't I?

DS

Khazul
07.03.2006, 05:03 PM
teen girl lust you are a ...

You two seem just made for each other :)

Hollowcell
07.03.2006, 09:36 PM
If happy little bluebirds fly
Beyond the rainbow
Why, oh why can't I?

DS

Because you're a human and it's only refracted light. :D

Gopal
07.03.2006, 10:27 PM
This whole thread is refracted light :P

Dark brown refracted light :lol:

digitalgeist
08.03.2006, 02:54 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38127000/jpg/_38127446_rodney_150ap.jpg

Can't we all just.......