View Full Version : Remastered Trance Track for review..Cheers all
robbie_uk
20.03.2006, 02:32 PM
:lol: this is the first track ive done in over 2 years lol so any feedback is welcome indeed..cheers all robbie uk
Drammy
20.03.2006, 05:18 PM
I don't get it - have you remastered this then or do you mean remixed? I guessed you mean remixed so here goes...
I don't know the original so can't compare but it seems quite a decent track.
THings I like:
I like the melody parts through out the track. The composition is very good. The mix isn't too bad, although the highs are a bit fuzzy for my liking and the percussion gets lost.
Things I don't like so much:
You may have problems if you press this to vinyl - the phase looks all over the shop to me - probably the highs judging by the patterns.
I am not very keen on the bass sound or the bass line (but I guess the line is stereotypical for the genre). The percussion could do with some work, the hats sound a bit weak and I can hardly hear the snare. The kick could maybe do with being passed through somekind of signal enveloper and perhaps have some very low sub-kicks mixed into it to define it more. The whole percussion gets lost within all the melody parts.
Of course others may totally disagree - I am no professional!
There may appear to be a lot more negatives but really I think you've done quite a good job (its 1 track more than I have finished in the last 2 years!)
Thanks for posting it,
Drammy
robbie_uk
20.03.2006, 05:44 PM
no mate its my own track i just remastered it with master x5...i made this one last summer...cheers for the review mate..infact it sounds better on my system no clipping than it does uploaded to net...
cheers robbie uk :D
DIGITAL SCREAMS
20.03.2006, 06:03 PM
To my polluted ears its sounding a little too upper mid/high boosted for my liking. I know MP3's in general sound like shite and its very difficult to comment on anything except pure wav...... 8)
The track is the standard fair for the genre and it has pleasant albeit predictable progressions but ultimately its a bit too forgettable....mixing needs attention and a possible rethink as to some of the sounds used for the instrument/percussion parts.
This is just my opinion. If this is a bedroom attempt then its great....if your trying to release this then you need to improve...but its not for me to say how to do that as im stuck in the 80's :lol:
DS
I thought you were Robbie Bronniman. :wink:
Btw, too much high frequency boost or resonance. I had to stop listening after 20 seconds to avoid hearing damage.
jasedee
21.03.2006, 11:49 AM
Yep...I agree with the others, too much top end. Leave the mastering to the mastering engineers!!!!
Other than that, sounds like a cool track. Trance is not my thing, but it sounds like a trance track to me (Did that make any sense???)
Nice work mate, and thanks for posting!
robbie_uk
21.03.2006, 02:06 PM
:lol: i see what you mean guys..fuck when i listen back it sounds fucking shit..hehe i just took it off the net..
cheers anyway robbie uk :D
The girl next door
21.03.2006, 03:06 PM
:lol: i see what you mean guys..fuck when i listen back it sounds fucking shit..hehe i just took it off the net..
cheers anyway robbie uk :D
"Ah way....Let the dog see the rabbit" i ain't listened to your track :cry:
robbie_uk
21.03.2006, 04:28 PM
:lol: i just deleted it for a makeover from the net mate but when its ready i will let you know...
cheers robbie uk
The girl next door
21.03.2006, 09:37 PM
:lol: i just deleted it for a makeover from the net mate but when its ready i will let you know...
cheers robbie uk
Why don't you master with the MD3 seeing as you have a powercore....
jasedee
21.03.2006, 09:51 PM
:lol: i see what you mean guys..fuck when i listen back it sounds fucking shit..hehe i just took it off the net..
cheers anyway robbie uk :D
It's not that bad dude...not bad enough that you should take it down from the net!!!! We were just giving suggestions...
robbie_uk
22.03.2006, 08:27 AM
no probs guys i think the problem maybe because i mastered the track on my headphones..however im debating on what monitors to invest in does anyone have some advice on the best buy?
Cheers all robbie uk
Threlly
22.03.2006, 08:40 AM
WHOA, you can't master on headphones, it's not stereo for a start, it's binaural.
You lose lots of information about soundspace etc.
get two sets of monitors, a good pair of neutrals, check the reviews in soundonsound, and a another pair for reference, I use Harmon Kardon soundsticks as a second opinion.
robbie_uk
22.03.2006, 09:16 AM
the only ones ive got at the minute is spirit absolute 2's but there quite old so i will check out sound on sound like you said..how much were your mons?
cheers robbie
Threlly
22.03.2006, 09:56 AM
At the moment I've got a pair of small self powered Yamaha MSP3's.
you can pick up a pair for less than a ton on ebay.
The soundstick II's were about the same from Amazon.
I A-B my mixes ALOT, I also keep a reference track I am familiar with close to hand.
I do use headphones as well, but never for the mix, just to make sure nothing outrageous has happened phase-wise.
jasedee
22.03.2006, 10:03 AM
I wouldnt rush out and buy a new pair of monitors...If you think it will be a magical fix for improving your mixes...
Maybe try some simple, inexpensive sound treatment of your space. Also, proper monitor placement and spacing is important. An example, I moved my monitors about a meter from the wall, and my mixes have improved as Im not trying to compensate for the 3dB increase in sound when near surfaces...
Also, just try getting used to your monitors. The more you know them and how they sound, as well as their shortcomings, the more your mixes will improve.
Just some suggestions...
If you know your headphones well, you can do good home masters with them too. I suggest Sennheiser HD600 or HD650. They are neutral enough that you can really mix with them. Good monitors can make mixing and mastering easier but you have to learn the monitors first. For me it takes at least several weeks to learn new monitors that I can really mix with them. I currently have Dyn BM15's which are good.
Threlly
22.03.2006, 11:58 AM
Mastering with headphones is a bit of a dead-end.
Its not stereo, so, if you want an accurate mix, you can't use headphones as what you'll end up with is a good headphone mix and thats all.
If thats what you want, go for it.
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