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Khazul
28.03.2006, 11:59 PM
New moog Little Phatty (http://www.moogmusic.com/detail.php?main_product_id=227) finally unveiled.
http://www.moogmusic.com/pictures/LP_TopWeb.jpg
http://www.moogmusic.com/pictures/LittlePhattyHeroSM.jpg
jasedee
29.03.2006, 12:34 AM
Damn that looks sweet!!!!
Now my dreams of owning a Moog might be a reality....
Hollowcell
29.03.2006, 06:37 AM
I read a few rumors a while back now, but it's nice to see that it is actually a reality!
Hope I get a hands on in the near future!
Still quite pricey though.....
Guzzy
29.03.2006, 06:40 AM
from the moog forum: ".....it reminds me of a traditional English Roll-top bread-bin..."
http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2557&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
:lol:
My next equipment!! ...must buy 8)
Looks great. However doesn't it have a noise generator? :? IMO that is a must in any analog synth.
Onkel Dunkel
29.03.2006, 10:05 AM
No noise generator?! That sucks :( I think it?s way too pricy for a pretty simple analog monosynth. Yes it?s analog and yes it?s Moog but still :? I like the name "Little Phatty" though :D
Threlly
29.03.2006, 10:55 AM
Its like the Emperors new clothes, $1400 for a bloody mono-synth.
Christ we must have short memories.
Dave Smith needs a good slap too, 4-voices for $1600.
Mono synths have always been a bit of a technological dead-end.
Any decent poly-synth can emulate the best mono, so they're all essentially kitsch fashion items, hence the Emperors new clothes comparison.
NO mono synth is worth more than $500 unless its bloody gold-plated !
Aye. 'budget'-synthesizer my ass and for a bigger picture of my ass, click here (http://www.analogindustries.com/images/blog/LittlePhatty_huge.jpg)
I say, sure it probably sounds sweet but not being able to twist the cutoff-knob along with the resonance-knob is a big failure aswell as getting some other nice 'live' tweaks.
Tomer=Trance
29.03.2006, 11:23 AM
check out the bottons and design and also the led knobs,
clavia NL rip off!
they just took the same old filter and oscilator designed and played around with it and gave it a big price tag, no thanx! :evil:
btw,mono evolver rack is totaly worth its price even tho its monophonic IMO.
Hollowcell
29.03.2006, 11:32 AM
check out the bottons and design and also the led knobs,
clavia NL rip off!
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You're right! After looking at that huge pic that 303 linked us to, those buttons really do look as if they've come straight off a Nord. Well that's one way to save a few bux.
Movietime; http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=2881# - it sure sounds good but still $1400 is $1000 too much.
Movietime; http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=2881# - it sure sounds good but still $1400 is $1000 too much.
Especially without a noise generator. :?
with that amount of money you could buy a killer poly synth from hyper space :D
with that amount of money you could buy a killer poly synth from hyper space :D
Waldorf Q 16 keyboard for example. Btw, Waldorf are coming back! Their website says "coming soon". :D
DIGITAL SCREAMS
30.03.2006, 10:14 AM
Its like the Emperors new clothes, $1400 for a bloody mono-synth
But it works....
Christ we must have short memories
Sorry, what did you just say? :lol:
Dave Smith needs a good slap too
Im into S&M aswell. My ICQ number is.....
Mono synths have always been a bit of a technological dead-end
Can any of your current synths do anything comparable to what a 30 year old analog modular can do?
Any decent poly-synth can emulate the best mono's
That might be true for digital synths....ie a digital poly could theoretically have just as good bass and lead response......
.....but not for analogs its a different story. A true analog poly will not have the same response and perceptual snappyness of a dedicated analog mono. Not even a Prophet 5 (reverred for its snappy envelopes). Dont get me wrong....analog poly's can put out great bass (Michael Jackson 'Thriller' Jupiter 8........Eurythmics 'Sweet Dreams are made of these' Oberheim OBX-a).....but they tend to play a more roundy/bouncy style as opposed to a hard, ballsy smack.
So they're all essentially kitsch fashion items
In much the same way the Ti and 909 is for Trance producers etc :lol:
NO mono synth is worth more than $500 unless its bloody gold-plated !
You've definitely spent too much time with your Jen 1000. With all due respect....its got to be one of the worst sounding mono's of all time. Ultimately your views on analog mono's is biased if your comparing everything to your jen experience :wink:
DS
Threlly
30.03.2006, 10:50 AM
haha, the jen is a sentimental item, no, I've had them all in my time, from the CS-1 up to the Moogs, and I hear what you say, but from my own experience your dead wrong.
Some of the mono synths of legend can produce the goods, many cannot, some of the most venerable were bloody awful (prophet 1 springs to mind).
My old CS-80 could blow away any moog, no problem, I'd be happy to sit anybody down with the two of them and defy the proof.
The problem is, most opinions of vintage synths are subjective at best (yours and mine included), so its horses for courses.
But when a company in this day-and-age starts selling an inferior product based on the goodwill created by their products of old, and dares to sell it for $1400, we must ask a simple question.
If the great and the good say something is the best, do you accept it at face value or have the balls to say, actually you're dead wrong ?
In 1985 I bought a DX-1, this was after meeting Dave Chowning himself at a Yamaha meet-and-greet.
the great and the good said Yamaha FM synthesis was the best.
I sold it 3 weeks later.
I picked up an OBX-a for some small change and had a lot more fun.
DIGITAL SCREAMS
30.03.2006, 01:33 PM
Its good to have another member on this board who's owned/used analog synths.....
Im not exactly clear where our difference of opinion lies. Personally I still think that a true analog synth should command a higher price than a software based product - with Moog gear you never get real value for money....but you do get better re-sale value in the long run
I actually really like the Pro1...but not everyone likes CEM....bit dry and sometimes sterile...but its gritty and more biting than almost anything else. Does the Jen use CEM...i think it does. Do you like Mono-Poly's? I love the smooth warmth of SSM chips....perfect contrast to the Pro1
CS80 for certain types of sounds probably would blow away most other synths....the DX1...I must admit I do love them - im currently using a DX7MKII FD for my FM pleasure
Whats your current gear setup? In your sig?
DS
Threlly
30.03.2006, 02:33 PM
yep thats most of the setup in the sig.
Not all of it works properly mind, I'll let you guess which ones !!
Hollowcell
30.03.2006, 08:57 PM
Do you like Mono-Poly's? I love the smooth warmth of SSM chips....perfect contrast to the Pro1
Going against popular opinon - I really don't think much of the Mono-polys. I spent about an hour with one last week, cheap by today's prices, but still not worth what they were asking. They fall into the over hyped, over priced area of Analogues unfortunately.
The problem is, most opinions of vintage synths are subjective at best (yours and mine included), so its horses for courses.
Although I haven't agreed with many of the things you've written on this board, I do agree with you on this.
The same could be said about pretty much all gear though. Basicly people want machines for what makes them happy in the end.
All up though, I would really like one of these Moogs (for the synced leads, occasional bass and filters), but there is no way I could justify paying that sort of money. I have a similar opinon about the TI come to think of it.
Tomer=Trance
31.03.2006, 10:41 AM
hollow,take into consideration that the korg mono-poly back then was a budget programable analog synthesizer from korg.
Hollowcell
31.03.2006, 11:38 AM
And the TB was a budget bass synth - look how that turned out. :D
Is that pic an April fool?
? - Err.. dont mind, i am quite pissed right now.. I've been drinking since 10 this morning.. Wow, over 10 hours straight of drinking and i can still type rellay good! Yay!
Is that pic an April fool?
Naa, its real mate. There is a video demo of it at musikmesse on the sonicstate page..
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=2881
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