VST Virus(a/b/c) Editor!!

[DMuzik]

Found this today and thought it might be of some interest ;)

http://www.rekonaudio.com/VES_Virus.php

[jasedee]

That looks awesome!!!!

Cant wait till it is out for OSX...and the price seems very fair too

[mr.e]

omg i've been waiting for this all my life!!! freakin awesome man !!! thanks

[ten]

Check this one out, looks a bit better imo...

http://www.psicraft.com/Products/VyzorVirus.php

out next month

ten

[mr.e]

unbelievable guys!! thanks!!
wait ...do I need to also buy midi quest to run these or I just install them.

[baldo]

anyone know if these editors will enable you to control the rack xl? :?:

the xl seems to get left out of some applications.

ps. why am i a complete newbie? i've been registered since 04 june. @ least i could be called a 'never poster' or something. but i ain't a complete newbie.

even DMuzik who joined in 06 jan w/4 posts is listed as 'new here.' wtf?

:shock:

actually, it is kinda' funny. :lol:

[jasedee]

anyone know if these editors will enable you to control the rack xl? :?:

the xl seems to get left out of some applications.

ps. why am i a complete newbie? i've been registered since 04 june. @ least i could be called a 'never poster' or something. but i ain't a complete newbie.

even DMuzik who joined in 06 jan w/4 posts is listed as 'new here.' wtf?

:shock:

actually, it is kinda' funny. :lol:
Should also include RackXL, well, I hope so cos my Virus is RackXL...It is after all a Virus C. Sound Diver worked with RackXL, so Im guessing it should be no different.

As far as "Complete Newbie" goes, I do think it needs updating. Perhaps something like "n00b" instead :lol:

And maybe instead of "New Here", it should read "Fresh Meat"????

;)

[mr.e]

both the editors say its supposed to be released in may but nothing yes ...still crossing fingers :D

[Tomer=Trance]

both virus C and XL share the same midi CC so i see no reason why it shouldnt work exacly the same.

im gussing its based on constantly updating\refreshing the midi messeges so you get feedback from the accual hardware and also the hardware changes acording to the software control.

[Drammy]

Don't forget to check this (http://www.psicraft.com/Products/VyzorVirus.php) out as well...

[baldo]

anyone know if these editors will enable you to control the rack xl? :?:

the xl seems to get left out of some applications.

ps. why am i a complete newbie? i've been registered since 04 june. @ least i could be called a 'never poster' or something. but i ain't a complete newbie.

even DMuzik who joined in 06 jan w/4 posts is listed as 'new here.' wtf?

:shock:

actually, it is kinda' funny. :lol:
Should also include RackXL, well, I hope so cos my Virus is RackXL...It is after all a Virus C. Sound Diver worked with RackXL, so Im guessing it should be no different.

As far as "Complete Newbie" goes, I do think it needs updating. Perhaps something like "n00b" instead :lol:

And maybe instead of "New Here", it should read "Fresh Meat"????

;)

jasedee & Tomer-Trance,

thx for the info.

i've had trouble w/soundiver working with the xl.

i had heard of the problems that users encountered and just gave up about 1.5 years ago. you've given me motivation to try it again.

btw - call me anything...just call me. i've been called a lot worse than n00b or dwEEb or neophyte. i just thought the description was funny & odd.

[Drammy]

Baldo,

What soundcard you using?

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

So do these editors act like Total Integration does?

If its showing up in you VST plugin folder?

DS

[Timo]

I think Total Integration on the TI tries to incorporate the audio and midi streams, DS.

The progs above are just like a glorified SoundDiver front end?

[baldo]

Baldo,

What soundcard you using?

i'm using a motu828

[ten]

The vyzor one lets you use them as a vsti also...


* Windows 2000/XP or Mac OS X platform support
* Saves / Loads your instrument's SysEx data to & from disk
* Supports all instrument data types such as patches, banks, combis, multis, rhythms, system, etc.
* Runs as a stand-alone application, as a VST plug-in & as a Studio Connections Editor
* 3 powerful types MIDI THRU options for connection to control surfaces and other instruments
* Automated control of MIDI patch bays for multiple instrument control on a single port
* MIDI file, MIDIX/Cakewalk, XML and Text format export of SysEx data and patch names
* MIDIX file send utility to send these data files to your instrument
* Supports up to 32 individual MIDI ports
* AutoSense scans and configures Vyzor's MIDI port and SysX channel settings to match your instrument
* Smart Controller maps any controls surace knob or slider to the currently selected editor parameter for quick hands-on editing.

You should also be able to bounce down in real-time just like the TI (cubase sx3/nuendo3 already let you do this anyway.)

ten

[mr.e]

they should hurry up already...cubase has had this for so long ...I have a feeling the au verion won't be out at the same time as the vst versions imo.

[Tomer=Trance]

its a bit different from the cubase hardware vst editor thingy if i understood correctly.

by using the cubase thingy you can control your hardware by midi cc as a vst interface and have the comfortable automation lines but you cant receive feedback from the hardware itself which is one of the major things in total intergration,im assuming these vst editors has it... ? or alse there is no real reason of buying these...

[Sleepwalker]

I hope they make a version for the Ti! :mrgreen:

[mr.e]

hi just wanted to say i contacted the reckon audio company and they said that the plug in is still being worked on and will take a few more months ...thats just for the pc version the mac is not even in the picture as of yet. just what I was thinking anyways though


Also if anyone can contact the vyzor company to let us know about the progress on that plug that would be very cool ...also interesting if theres gonna be a mac version of that vyzor one.

I haven't contacted them yet

[wormcode]

Kinda old topic, but...

I contacted Vyzor and asked for an update and also if there is a price point availible yet. I didn't get a response, but on the Virus portion of their site it now says "September 2006". Anyone hear anything about the Reckon version? Any other tools like this pop up in the past couple of months?

[lanrosta]

I will be releasing the reKon audio VST Virus Editor next week (for BOTH Mac and PC). The first version out will be for the Virus A [OS 2.8], then the B/kb/classic/rack, and finally the C/rackXL version. For more information and a screenshot, please visit the website at www.rekonaudio.com.

So, to answer some of the questions I have seen floating around here:

- Yes, there will be different VST's for each Virus version (A,B,C). These will be based on the current Virus OS's out there for each of these machines.

-The editors are not 'total integration'. They are made for real time editor control of your patches (not multis). You can instatiate as many editors as you need (one for each midi channel) in your host. to acheive this control on separate MIDI tracks.

-You can dump your existing hardare patches into the editor via a controller dump.

-reKon editors allow you to see and edit every single parameter of your patch right on one screen... no tabs! Every aspect of your preset sound is right up front.

-Yes, AU versions will be aways down the road.

-Mac VST versions will be available.

Come check it out at www.rekonaudio.com

[lanrosta]

It's ready for the Virus A, (though it will probably work on all of them, minus some of the paramters for the B and C OS's). The B/kB/Classic/Rack and C/kC/RackXL versions will be out soon (about 1 month). Mac and PC versions are available.

Fully supports controller dumps from the Virus A into the Editor and vice versa (Editor to Virus, of course). Look and feel is quite similar to the Virus A model (see the screen shot link on the VST Virus Editor product page). The B and C versions will also emulate their counterparts in look.

Get it here for $49.95 (www.rekonaudio.com)

lanrosta,
reKon audio

[Timo]

http://www.rekonaudio.com/images/VSTVirusEditor_SS.jpg

Blimey, 102 knobs!

[lanrosta]

Blimey, 102 knobs!

Yeah, there's a total of about 160 parameters that make up a Virus A sound patch. Nice to be able to see them easily, all in one spot, eh?


* Runs as a stand-alone application, as a VST plug-in & as a Studio Connections Editor

Well, don't expect to be able to use the vyzor VSTi to work with multis or send sysex data in any major VST host (unless you use Hermann Seib's VST Host), because none of them (not even Cubase SX) support the transmission of sysex data from a VSTi yet. Some host manufactures MAY eventually get around to implementing this support (it's a wonder why it was ever left out in the first place [shame on you most, steinberg]).

Of course, working with sysex data outside a VSTi (i.e. standalone app) has been possible for years (if not decades) and isn't really a selling point IMO since there are tons of free/cheap sysex editors out there to handle this already.

This is why the rekon audio VST Virus Editor does not support multis (you need 'page C' [the sysex data] to be able to work with those parameters). And since no major commercial host out there supports the sysex calls (from a VSTi) ATM, well, there's no reason to develop that code yet. If and when there is support, we will definately add these enhanced features.



but you cant receive feedback from the hardware itself

Not Multi control and some other sysex releated parameters (see above). The rekon audio VST Virus Editor can receive a controller dump from the Virus and will set the parameters in the VSTi. (again, not sysex) This allows you to transfer existing hardware singles right into the editor to see every parameter that makes up the sound, and edit them visually and freely.



or alse there is no real reason of buying these

Well, a VSTi is portable across VST hosts, so say you want to change hosts, use it on a different system (a Mac or PC), at a friends house, whatever, the VSTi and patches will still work, whereas mixermaps won't. There are several reasons why it's better to be able to have this type of control in a VST host application. One, is that you can shape your patch to your tracks, as you are playing them back. Something a standalone app can't do. Plus, you get a great looking interface that emulates your hardware The other plus is being able to automate the params and work with them visually and not just on a timeline with your pencil tool.

Put some thought into it. You will definately see the value when you use it. :wink:

lanrosta,
reKon audio

[Ronkaz]

is there a demo version?

[cleverr1]

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You can dump your existing hardare patches into the editor via a controller dump.

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Could you please tell me exactly how to do this with 1.1.2?

Thanks,
Roger

[NeoMetric]

Is this still reportedly not compatible with Live? Anyone using this with Sonar or Cubase?

[jasedee]

Is this still reportedly not compatible with Live? Anyone using this with Sonar or Cubase?
Im using it with Cubase SX3. Works fine, although the UI isnt that great. A little too crowded... but for the price, it is a good deal

[hallifax]

Anyone know if the Vyzor Virus editor is ever going to be released?! Almost a year late!:confused:

[jasedee]

I wish I knew more... Vyzor looks great