Does the Ti have Drum sounds

[dries]

Hello out there,

I'm thinking of buying the Ti (and selling all other stuff).

does the Ti come with a Drum kit or some good Drum sounds?

tnx for the Info.

Dries

[Timo]

Hi Dries

does the Ti come with a Drum kit or some good Drum sounds?

There are no drum samples/PCMs on the Virus.

However, you can model electronic-based drum sounds just like you can with other synthesisers.

[camus]

Yes, you'll have to design your own drum sounds, it's easy for kickdrums , hihhats and toms , much more difficult for good tr909 snares.
If you want a synth with drumsounds maybe radias could be a better solution.

[dries]

tnx for your reply.

one more question. do I have all functions of the virus, when I do not connect it to a computer - f.e. edit arp patterns - or do i need the software to do that kind of stuff?

tnx in advance.

regards

dries

[theMusicMan]

Editing ARP patterns is, IIRC, the only thing you cannot do on the TI itself. Everything else you can do, but not that.

[dries]

tnx for the info.

[Technophile]

You can change ARP patterns via hardware, just not make "custom" arps.
The arp editor is not all that though, its not like your missing much. You can only control note velocity and length, you still have to match it with a pattern.

[Khazul]

You can program fairly decent 808/909 style sounds on the TI. Though none of the drum sounds presets particularly grabbed me.

You really want a pattern sequencer for drums anyway - the TI doesnt have that - just an arp.

Loads of good software drum machines around, or for hardware maybe a Korg electribe or vermona can be had for a few hundred or something like a machinedrum at the other end of the price scale which is excellent.

[dries]

>>You really want a pattern sequencer for drums anyway - the TI doesnt have that - just an arp.<<

in fact I use many arp's simultaously on my virus C now in multimode (good for trance stuff) - the only sad thing about that is that I can not edit the patterns.

but if I can edit the ARP patterns, on a Ti, a kind of pattern seq. comes out isn't it?

I could save the edited patterns and then I can use up to 16 arp parts at the same time in multimode - not bad.

in fact that would just be what i'm looking for ... or am I overseeing something here.

[Khazul]

but if I can edit the ARP patterns, on a Ti, a kind of pattern seq. comes out isn't it?

I could save the edited patterns and then I can use up to 16 arp parts at the same time in multimode - not bad.

in fact that would just be what i'm looking for ... or am I overseeing something here.

You will need a patch for each drum - so for me that would equate to a dozen or so patches for just drums most of the time (I use an elektron machinedrum and typically alot of tracks on it) - and thats for just one drum machine type pattern... now add variations etc...

Its an OK starting point - and maybe OK if you have a software sequencer. I have used an external sequencer to sequence drum sounds on a TI - and I know someone people have used the TI's arp to do basic stuff (BD+SD+OH+CH which is still 4 arp patches).

If you want punchy kicks - then you will probably want to use non-detined unison mode as well to stack up the kicks - that starts to eat poly.

[camus]

http://afrobytes.free.fr/ELECTRO1.mp3

http://afrobytes.free.fr/ELECTRO2.mp3

Here are some exemples of my first drums with the virus.

I bought it for synths and classic TR like sounds.

I uses the 10 first channels for drums, the rest for synths

If i want to change a sound, i just send a Program change with my sequencer so i'm not limited.

All the sounds are in mono mode, so i know that i wont be using more than 10 voices of polyphony.

[dries]

sounds realy nice, thanks for that stuff.

the Ti has 80 voice of polyphony, so -10 voices for the drum will not be a real problem.

and for sampled drums I could use the KAOSS pad 3 - it has all the drum sounds of the Radias.

[Khazul]

sounds realy nice, thanks for that stuff.

the Ti has 80 voice of polyphony, so -10 voices for the drum will not be a real problem.

and for sampled drums I could use the KAOSS pad 3 - it has all the drum sounds of the Radias.

Erm - no it doesnt - the KP3 has a few drum noises in there that could be useful to a DJ for carrying a beat over a transition, but nothing that much use in music creation - the radias has alot of excellent proper drum sounds, good for many genres of music along with alot of useful patterns.

I have both - the KP3 is a very fun DJ fx tool - while it may share some code with the Radias, I cant say that I particularly notice the herritage in the resulting sound. Radias filters and fx are way better. The synthy noises in the KP3 certainly have a radias character to them - that is the bit that I think Korg refer to when they talk about technolgy from the radias in the KP3.

On poly use your missing the point on drum polyphony with the TI as well. If you want 10 drum sounds - the you will need 10 patches in multi mode - ie 10 midi channels - that will leave you 6 for synth parts.

Actually now that you bring up the radias - maybe it might suit you better as a starting synth? Though if you have the cash - go for the TI to start with a use a sofware based drum machine plugin for now, or you could use the radias to cover both. Radias is fixed at 4 part multi-timberal, but it has a huge advantage over the TI for drums - it actually has a drum mode so you can stick a whole loads of drums sounds in one patch - unlike the TI where you need separate patches.


Nice demo camus :)
Also F5D posted a really nice prog rock type thing ages ago with some really good natural-like drum sounds in it.