Roland V-Synth

[nvisibl]

I've been thinking of getting one of these (2nd hand), and then just found out yesterday that Roland are releasing a newer one very soon. Dang! How can one buy the current v-synth when a new one is about to come out !!Though the new one will probably cost quite a bit.

Any v-synth users out there, can you tell me please if you need to be a technoid geek in order to get a good sound out of it or can it produce the goods with but a reasonable tweak here and there? I don't like to get bogged down so much in programming and sampling etc... cheers

[AlexHall74]

You might want to PM Hollowcell.

He bought a V-Synth last year and I'm pretty sure he loves it...or makes love to it, something like that.

;)

As far as its tweak-aptitude factor?

I have no idea.

[Khazul]

It is a deep and complex synth, but on balance, its quick an easy synth to program I think. Its easy to program through the touch screen, but not as direct to program as a good knobby VA - ie far less direct knobbage. In some ways programming it is a bit like programming a soft synth with a knob/button box as many of the knobs taken on functions depending on the screen at times.

Rather than loads of complex mod routing to remember each major block in it has its own LFOs and Envelopes - this simplifies navigation, and allowes for hugely complex sounds to be easily created, but can add more to the programming effort than say simply routing the same env to several parameters when that is you you need at the time.

Preparing samples and loops can be a bit hit and miss until you get a feel for it, but how much so really depends on you aims for the sound you are trying to create.

I do think you have to be willing to ivest quite a bit of effort into it to get the best out - thats not saying its hard, it just that unlike say a virus TI there arnt huge numbers of presets that you will want to use all over the place, so there ismoe of a need to program it from the outset. Some of the best preset sounds are actually buried in ARP and the like - switch the arps off and youll discover a bunch of very useful sounds.

If it definately a tweakers/programmers machine though - if you aint willing to stick the time in and learn to program - then I wouldnt get one.

For a synth of its complexity and mangling power - then its one of the easier ones to porgram I think, especially with the included templates in OS V2.

[nvisibl]

cheers alex

Nice one khazul, thanks (again) for taking the time.

I like the idea of the v-synth from the point of uniqueness and creating original sounds and i don't mind doinga bit of programming so long as i'm not taking up all my studio time doing it, so maybe i'll go in store for a thorough demo to see if I click with the interface etc,,. I tried this before but the shop assistant hardly knew fuck all about the machine whilst making out that he knew it all, so I couldn't really get into it properly. Next time i'll be a bit more persistant and sit with it for as long as it takes.

here is a small glimpse of the new v-synth, might be worth holding out for. http://www.roland.com/V-Synth/2007NAMM/index.html

[nvisibl]

Ok.. got one.. at last.
I love it and look forward to running some samples through it etc..

I have a question for yourself Khazul, HC or anyone.... not been able to get any response to it in the v-synth forum as yet and its really bugging me. Would appreciate your feedback.

When I switch to VC-2 and change programs, the program displayed then alternates on its own in an erratic fashion between the new program selected and the previous program. Flick..flicker..flick..flicker..flick

Any ideas?

EDIT: Its okay, as it was picking up Midi messages from the PC somehow. Disabling midi receive for now keeps it from flicking about. Glad that it doesn't need to go back.

[The girl next door]

I'm Saving my pennies for this which should be out at the end of this year http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/origin/details.html

[bishopkris40]

I actually fancy both of them, but I think the origin may just win in the end, all depends on the actual cost and feel. But since I'm still paying my TI it'll be a while.

[Tomer=Trance]

3000$ for the origine? i rather get the new waldorf va-analog hybrid

[The girl next door]

Sod the cost,that things gonna be mental for Bass

[Khazul]

$3000???????? OMFG!!!


Urgh - second half of this year could be bad...

On the wish list: Korg M3-88 and Origin

[danbeaulieu]

I'm Saving my pennies for this which should be out at the end of this year http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/origin/details.html

This unit looks neat, any idea how much it'll be?

[LivePsy]

I sure hope that Roland think this synth through properly. This whole dual v-synth concept could be done really well, or it could be done 'Roland style'. I suspect that the GT was originally an updated V-Synth and someone at the last moment said "Hey let's put two of 'em - that will sell twice as many!"

Frankly I can't think what would be that much better about 2 V-Synths other than layering - which is mostly achievable right now. My tip would be to wait for the GT release and then get a cheap original V-Synth. Almost all the power at a really great price.

Cheers,
B