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camus
17.01.2007, 08:27 AM
"OS 2.0 for Virus TI has some new oscillator types:

"The new version features additional oscillator types, enhanced Wavetable synthesis and more wavetables. It allows you to see how expensive a chosen patch is and features Section Locking through Virus Control. Patches can be finally sorted by category and the onboard patch ROM contains addition 256 sounds by Matthew Stolley and Matt Picone.

We have included new oscillator modes, greatly expanding on the flexibility of these already powerful sound-sculpting tools.

The remaining oscillator modes all make use of a new technology for the Virus TI, called Grain Table. The basic idea behind this technology, is to take the existing wavetables, and apply similar techniques as those used in some granular sampling and pitch-shifting algorithms to open up a whole new world of possibilities. Each of the two main types: Grain Table and Formant Table are presented in both Simple and Complex formats. In each case, the Simple mode offers fewer parameters, and a higher polyphony than Complex, with the values of parameters common to each mode remaining constant.

It’s important to note that the characteristics of the Grain Table and Formant Table oscillators are quite different to those of traditional “granular” sampling/synthesis techniques, which tend to be associated with other-worldly “clouds” of sound. In the Virus TI, we have instead employed the technology to achieve a very musical result which should prove every bit as useful as the other oscillator types in all manner of musical projects." any other informations? what do you think about it?

Timo
17.01.2007, 01:36 PM
Interesting, but where did you see this? It isn't on the Access website.

Doc Jones
17.01.2007, 03:08 PM
camus,
did your teachers tell you to "always cite your sources"!? :)

looking forward to this!

Doc Jones
17.01.2007, 08:16 PM
been seeing a lot of talk about this os update on other forums.

there's some great new features in there, plus ones I have been waiting for like categories in the VC.

We shall know tomorrow.

iand
17.01.2007, 08:34 PM
Tomorrows too long!

merlyn
17.01.2007, 10:57 PM
They can keep all of that. I just want the long promised RTAS version of Virus Control already!!

Timo
17.01.2007, 10:57 PM
Ok, I've scoured the web and managed to source the PDF it was allegedly taken from.

I've uploaded it here:-

OS v2.0 Addendum (PDF) (http://www.gobo.dsl.pipex.com/AddendumOS2.pdf)

In brief:-

Graintable synthesis and Formants.
The basic idea behind this technology, is to take the existing wavetables, and apply similar techniques as those used in some granular sampling and pitch-shifting algorithms to open up a whole new world of possibilities. Each of the two main types: Grain Table and Formant Table are presented in both Simple and Complex formats.

Wavetable PWM
The WavePWM oscillator takes two instances of the same wavetable, and phase-shifts them against each other to achieve an effect reminiscent of the traditional pulsewidth modulation of a pulse wave oscillator.

Additional Wavetables
Access have created 27 new wavetables for OS2. Each has been carefully selected to compliment the existing content, and to exploit the
characteristics of the new oscillator modes. They come in several different flavours, including filter-like sweeps, formant morphs, harmonic inter-play, Fibonacci sequences and more.

Section Locking
Section locking is a unique and versatile tool to import certain aspects of a patch into another one. It enables Virus Control user to decide which aspect of a given sound is changed when browsing through patches.
Imagine you are working on a song and you just played a melody which works great with the delay pattern of the current patch. Unfortunately, the patch itself doesn’t really match the rest. Under normal circumstances you will alter the delay pattern once you start browsing through alternative sounds. With
Section Locking though, you can lock the Delay and therefore browse through patches without impacting the great melody you’ve just played which unfortunately relies on this certain type or Delay.

Inactive Parameters
Right from the start, the Virus TI hardware didn’t show inactive parameters in order to keep the parameter menus as short as possible. The Virus Control plug-in from now on shows inactive parameter in a semi translucent fashion which will increase your overview dramatically. You will never tweak a parameter without anything happening again (because the entire section was off).

Patch Complexity Indicator
The playmode page on the Virus TI hardware contains a new icon which informs you about the complexity of the current patch. The complexity is an indicator of the polyphony at your disposal whilst playing this particular patch. The icon, which looks similar to the battery status icon on your mobile phone, shows between one and five bars where one bar stands for a rather “cheap” sound and five for a pretty “expensive” one.

Search By Category
With version 2.0 the Virus Control plug-in allows you to search for specific sounds by filtering for a patch category.

Two new ROM banks
In addition to the 17 ROM banks, OS 2.0 features two new ones by Matt Stolley and Matt Picone. Stolley’s “10 Dirty years” bank will probably get us intro trouble, either for his tendency of choosing explicit patch names or for the darkness of his latest breaks, electro and d’n’b bank. Assuming that you’re 18 years or older we suggest that you point your TI to bank ROM-R but only on mentally-stable days.

Matt Picone’s latest submission in contrast is rather bright and a welcome addition to the players among us. The new bank features versatile live patches, beautiful ambient beds and arpeggiators. Nevertheless there is a couple of sounds you shouldn’t use at a family dinner.

Hope this isn't fake! Looks like a real nice new set of features.

Looks like they took the wavetable PWM idea from us! http://www.infekted.org/virus/showthread.php?t=24409&highlight=Pulse%20width

That will make for absolutely MONSTROUS patches!!! (See my demos on that Pulse Width thread, which uses the exact same thing. Or at least listen to this demo:- [2 x detuned saw-oscillators with/without PW (http://www.gobo.dsl.pipex.com/audio/pulsewidth/SawzPWx2-SawzDry.mp3)]

...Which shows the difference between: a) two x detuned saw oscillators with pulse-width modulation, and then the same two x detuned oscillators b) but without the PW modulation.

Both in mono, and no unison used.

...which was made using a Korg Trinity Moss synthesis board that allows you to phase-shift two copies of a single saw-wave oscillator to give a really thick sound, using just one oscillator, even before even touching unison! Add two of the same PWM oscillators, slightly detuned from each other, and it sounds as raw as anything. And just 1-note of polyphony.

Doc Jones
18.01.2007, 05:01 AM
Looks like they took the wavetable PWM idea from us! http://www.infekted.org/virus/showthread.php?t=24409&highlight=Pulse%20width

hey, that post is almost 3 years old.
and the links still work!! nice.

iand
19.01.2007, 03:41 AM
Well Nova Musik here in the states is advertising new prices for the TI line, and announcing OS 2. http://www.novamusik.com/search.aspx?type=Model&keyword=3197

grs
19.01.2007, 04:29 AM
Oh, mild chuckle.

LivePsy
19.01.2007, 06:38 AM
Sad really. While I didn't have my hopes too high, a hoax like this is only amusing to 1 or 2 people. If we can just get rid of people, the Internet would be a perfect place :)

B

Timo
19.01.2007, 03:30 PM
Companies do press-releases announcing details at different times throughout the whole of the NAMM show, until Sunday 21st.

So there's still a tiny flicker of hope. Maybe it could be legit, but released after NAMM, due to Access not wanting to repeat the "announce something and not deliver" debacle of the initial TI release.

If it was a hoax it is certainly an elaborate one. Like, the PWM thing, not many would know about that unless it is a user from here and they read the PWM thread 3 yrs ago, or it's a technique that was picked up elsewhere. However, I know BenC, Marc and other Access employees were active on the forums here at the time of the PWM/Sync thread, which would make it odd if it weren't for real. I don't reckon anyone would spend that much time creating the data for the whole PDF if it was for a hoax. If they did, it'd be pretty sick, in a way.

Furthermore, no Access employees have yet denied anything, which they probably would have done had it been fake, to save face.

The origin of the PDF is undoubtedly in question, though!

Timo
19.01.2007, 08:20 PM
On the offchance, anyone visiting NAMM this weekend?

Found Access' location at booth #6900

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9018/accessatnammvn6.png

iand
20.01.2007, 01:15 AM
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j141/disrupt_the_imc/nammvirusos2.jpg

Timo
20.01.2007, 11:39 AM
Awesome!! Great news indeed.

nvisibl
20.01.2007, 04:05 PM
Question is, will it be a free upgrade for current Ti owners?
I'm sure it will be... if not then i'm also sure that all hell will break loose.lol

Doc Jones
20.01.2007, 05:30 PM
Question is, will it be a free upgrade for current Ti owners?
I'm sure it will be... if not then i'm also sure that all hell will break loose.lol
I would think that it is pretty much certain to be a free upgrade for current owners. The reason being that some features of the 2.0 release were supposed to be in the original release (like categories via the VC)

Timo
20.01.2007, 05:34 PM
Access certainly haven't charged for any upgrades in previous releases. In fact it's almost become tradition that they release at least one major upgrade after they've released a synth for free.

As far as I know...
Virus A went from OS v1 to v2.8
Virus B continued from OS v3 to v4.9
C continued from OS v5 to v6.5

(Up until the TI, the OS's were a continuation/incremental from the previous Virus hardware synths)

They've reset the OS number back to v1 for the TI, so it will (likely) go from OS v1 to OS v2.xx
The TI2 (if there ever is one) will likely continue from OS v3 or similar.

But this is just a guess at best.

theMusicMan
20.01.2007, 10:09 PM
Would be nice now that NAMM is almost over, if Access were to at least post an update on what they are intending. No need for dates, just something informing the userbase of what they are currently doing.

nvisibl
20.01.2007, 11:31 PM
Yea i'm sure you won't be far of the mark with your guess Timo.

LivePsy
21.01.2007, 04:32 AM
here's the proof, unbelieving assholes

I'm happy to be an asshole!

Of course it is not up on the access web site... so asshole status yet to be confirmed :)

Cheers,
B

theMusicMan
21.01.2007, 07:15 AM
Further proof from me... another once asshole :)

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM07/Content/AccessMusic/PR/OS-2.html

Doc Jones
21.01.2007, 05:06 PM
nice find musicman.

I have a sneaky suspicion I will be calling in sick to work when this is released!

LivePsy
22.01.2007, 05:34 AM
... Sound of fingers drumming on desk ...

Cheers,
B

Guzzy
22.01.2007, 07:14 PM
http://www.fdiskc.com/syn/namm/2007/AccessVirusTi.jpg

BlakeLight
23.01.2007, 04:06 PM
hey... I think this proves it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsDqmquBptE&eurl=

Can't wait to get it now though!

F5D
23.01.2007, 10:41 PM
I'm interested in buying a TI now. :D

However, I will have to decide between Q Phoenix edition keyb and TI desktop...

Technophile
24.01.2007, 12:25 AM
I have always said if there was no Access I would be a Waldorf guy.
But if your going for a Q, mise go for a Q+.

Khazul
24.01.2007, 12:56 AM
I would get a virus TI now and start saving your pennies again for a stromberg :)

Rusty O'Hara
24.01.2007, 05:35 AM
The frustration of waiting for it to become available...

synthetic
24.01.2007, 08:56 AM
Now I've downloaded OS 2.0 from Access homepage :)

Khazul
24.01.2007, 08:57 AM
Release is up on www.access-music.de

Rusty O'Hara
24.01.2007, 10:58 PM
The frustration of waiting for it to become available...

Downloading it at work... I'm starting to feel awefully sick all of a sudden and think that it may be best if I go home early for the day...

Hollowcell
06.02.2007, 04:39 AM
So what's the new OS like guys? I haven't had much time for the forums recently and I know it's a big question, but I still wanna know.. hehe