Roland XV-3080

[F5D]

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I will get a Roland XV-3080 sound module tomorrow. I just found one second hand. I have never used any of the jv-series or xv-series romplers like 1080, 2080 etc. but I had a Roland Vintage Synth module a couple of years ago and liked it. The 3080 should have enough polyphony (128 voices) and stereo samples (+mono), JV-2080 sounds + some jd990 sounds too. All my synth are analog or virtual analog etc. so this rompler should be a good addition to my setup for good quality bread and butter sounds.

Do you guys know which expansion cards I should buy for the synth?

It has 2 SRX slots and 4 SR-JV slots. I have already decided to purchase the Ultimate keys srx-card which includes the sounds from vintage synth, keyboards of the 60's and 70's, bass & drum and "selected sounds" from session and piano cards.

[Summa]

Nice architecture with postfilter Ringmod and Booster (Distortion/Waveshaping) structures, it's a shame using it for bread and butter sounds only. Not exactly easy to programm but imho worth it...

[F5D]

I got the 3080 yesterday. It seems to be a good sound module for what it's been designed for. Very well built and the sound quality is good. However, most of the patches are almost useless, especially the jv2080 banks. XV-sounds are much better. I like some of the acoustic guitar and string patches and there are lots of other good sounds too.

There's one thing I have to say. I HATE choir aahs and other vox-sounds! :D

I don't understand why roland use so much vox sounds and most of the pads are ruined by vox-waveforms. Shame. Of course I can edit them and I will! Anyway, I will get the ultimate keys -card which should give the synth a big boost.

Of course I will experiment with the synth and make some wild sounds too. :)

[F5D]

I just tried to edit the sounds for the first time. Of course the editing is alot slower than with any analog synth because all edits must be done in menus but it's not too difficult if you know what the parameters do.

I just made 2 huge pads which sound fantastic! None of the preset pads sound this big. The built in fx unit is very good and even the reverb which it produces is very smooth. There are basically 4 choises, reverb, room, hall and plate. The Hall can sound really big if needed and the room sounds like a room.

The multi fx part gives all kinds of choruses, phasers, flangers, distortions and enhancer which works very nicely.

The filter sounds ok. I haven't tried resonance yet but I usually never need it anyway and I guess it's not as good as virtual analog synths have. I just need to get a midi controller that I can tweak the cutoff and some other parameters faster.

I really like a parameter "Analog feel", which modulates the oscillators in a nice way when you turn the level up. So you don't always have to use lfo's to modulate oscillator pitch.

I'm gonna program alot more sounds with this thing. It seems that the synth has many many good waveforms for sound design and the fx unit really makes a great final touch to the sound. It's just that the preset sounds are mostly quite boring (not really a surprise) instead of some nice acoustic sound presets.

I bought this machine for acoustic sounds, strings and digital pads and it seems to do a nice job in that area. I will try some harder more distorted sounds soon too. :)

[AlexHall74]

Have you thought about using a MIDI editor/librarian, like MIDIquest?

Check out the demo at www.squest.com

It might be easier than dicking with the menus...I hated the menus on my Motif ES Rack.

Just a thought.

[F5D]

In fact there's an editor for the roland xv series at roland usa website (for pc and mac). I tried it and it's ok but some parameters are faster to tweak from the synth's own menu, for example the oscillator waveform. In the editor I didn't find a way to scroll thru the waveforms (selecting from the list with mouse is slow) but you can turn the knob from the synth's front panel and scroll really fast.

[Summa]

It's the same with my Fantom XR so I switch between the waveforms using the knob on frontpannel of the synth while doing the rest within the editor software and finaly, before saving the sound, I copy the settings from the synth into the editor manually or store the sound directly from within the edit menue of the synth...

Some weeks ago I did a little sound demo to show what the postfilter Ringmod of those roland PCM synths can do. It's only one sound I tweak with the mod-wheel and channel pressure while playing...

http://musik.freepage.de/summa/PostfilterRM.mp3

[F5D]

Here is a demo of the pad sounds which I programmed with my 3080:
http://www.quandace.com/f5d_xv3080.mp3

Everything you hear is directly from 3080 without any additional fx.

I will order the ultimate keys and maybe symphonic strings cards soon.

[nvisibl]

i too have the XR and the software editor is a breeze compared with faffing about in the menus and peering into that little screen, but i don't really do so much editing beyond the very basics with this module.

I recently got the SRX World Collection card and highly recommend it, especially for its wind and accoustic guitar patches.

Supreme Dance and Platinum Tracks whilst not mind blowingly original are very good,very useable, filled with dance/trance/R&B orientated samples, effects and drums. Its the drum samples and kits from these boards that I use in my setup these days after spending months going through just about every single drum module out there trying to find the most suitable for my own taste and practical useage.

I generally recommend all the SRX boards as a very good level of quality can be expected in the samples...except for Dynamic Drums.. I don't know what the funk Roland were thinking of with this card. The drum samples and kits are fantastic, best i've come across but they all have room reverb on them! I was gutted after buying this card and sold it off straight away.. should have read properly the reviews.

[Doc Jones]

very nice F5D.

Roland's Pads and strings are always great sounding.
I have a jv-2080 and still reach for it when doing orchestral work.

Here is a demo of the pad sounds which I programmed with my 3080:
http://www.quandace.com/f5d_xv3080.mp3

Everything you hear is directly from 3080 without any additional fx.

I will order the ultimate keys and maybe symphonic strings cards soon.

[F5D]

Yesterday I finally got the SRX-07 Ultimate Keys expansion card. I must say that it is very good! Better than I expected. It has over 450 patches + drumkits.

I had to update my 3080's operating system to support more than 128 patches when using new srx cards. It took about 45 minutes to play 32 midi os update files from logic. Anyway, everything was ok after the update and I could see all the pacthes.

I read somewhere that the srx-07 piano is maybe from the session board and imo it's good for some styles. The card has many electric pianos and organ sounds. I usually don't use that kind of sounds but it's fun to play them and I noticed that many of them could be used in my productions too. The organs and EP's are very good. Then there are tons of acoustic and electric basses and some very good flute/horn-sounds. I have to continue testing but some of them were very usable. Then the pads and strings... The waves taken from both keyboards of the 60's and 70's and vintage synth cards there are some really beautiful and fat synth strings / pads and the card gives you tons of new good waveforms to create your own patches.

I don't know about the other roland xv- or jv-modules but the 3080 must have a good sound engine and converters because all sounds sound very smooth and beautiful, not thin and lifeless. I really start liking even more about the 3080. I will not sell it. It's my no. 1 pads/strings-machine and if I need any real instrument sounds, it's really fast to search one and they seem to sit in the mix very well.

I've been reading about the other expansion cards and next I will try to find a second hand orchestral 1 jv-card.

:)

[DougP]

i've got a second hand XV-5050 that i never use. i should really dig into it and see what it's capable of. This thread is sparking my interest in these JV/XV boxes again.

i'd be interested in how the orchestral card works out. i am trying to find some violin/viola sounds that would be decent as solo instruments instead of string sections.

[soundsubs]

This is interesting. What is the difference between the 3080 and a newer one like the fantom xv? just the SRX/JV cards that go in it?

One question: if you need a drum kit, can you select DRUM as the sound and then scroll through presets and it jumps automatically to the next drum kit?

[F5D]

XV3080 and older jv-modules use 32kHz sampling rate whereas the newer modules use 44.1kHz. However, that doesn't mean that 32kHz is worse. Most of the JV-card samples have been edited for use with 32kHz converters I guess and some people have reported that some of these expansion cards sound too crisp or even weird with the new modules. Anyway, I have not tested this so I cannot really say. Anyway, I don't hear anything missing in the sounds, it's smooth and beautiful. :)

Anyway, I have read many comments about the 3080 and that the converters which roland use in it are very good and all roland jv and xv-modules sound different. I bet that the new fantom modules are good too. They have sampling built in too but I don't need that. The 3080 can be expanded by 2 srx cards + 4 jv-cards. The new modules can be expanded by using only srx cards but there are more slots for them. Anyway, you can get most of the JV sounds too if you purchase the srx cards which are made of the jv samples as the ultimate keys is.