Just got Virus TI Snow and two questions~!

[h4nc0]

Hello all,

I just got a Virus TI Snow today and really love the sound. However, I've encountered two problems. One is when using TI mode and Out 1 L&R (the physical audio output), the output signal is really low and lacks lowend completely. Switching to USB outputs sounds fine. Disabling TI and using the box as external synth (MIDI & auido) works fine as well. It's only when using analog outputs in TI mode. Is this a known bug or did I get a defective unit?

Also, I've tried to automate "Note Length" under ARP, but it doesn't seem to work at all. (By enabling W(rite) in Nuendo and dragging the knob) Is this also a known problem? How do I go about automating that parameter?

Thanks alot!

[psy604]

a) Out 1 L&R is the same signal like USB 1 L&R ... it seems a bit low here, too.

b) try MIDI CC #5 (on Page B) via controller lane for ARP note lenght ... value 64 should be +/- 0

[h4nc0]

Out1 L&R sounds like highpassed here. Lacks lowend completely. USB1 L&R sounds fine. So this isn't a bug? Are you on Windows? :(

[marc]

check if one of your cables if phase inverted

marc

[h4nc0]

Checked with several cables. I am taking the unit to distributor today to see if it's defective. thx.

[Natspace]

Dont' worry h4nc0, i've got the same bug with my snow.
I think that will be resolved with the stable version of the Os 2.7 ;)

[h4nc0]

Ah ok. I've contacted Access and they said it wasn't known bug. Are you sure it's reported to Access?

[marc]

Dont' worry h4nc0, i've got the same bug with my snow.
I think that will be resolved with the stable version of the Os 2.7 ;)

you mean OS2.7 beta has an issues with the analog outs missing bass? i doubt that, at least it is not the case here and there.

marc

[Natspace]

you mean OS2.7 beta has an issues with the analog outs missing bass? i doubt that, at least it is not the case here and there.

marcWe are not talking about that!

Just talking about missing delay/synchro with the analog out of the Snow.:rolleyes:

I have friend who have contacted Access about this problem on his Polar and they said:

Thank you for your mail. The analog and SPDIF outs of the TI are not delay compensated when using
the PlugIn, that's why they are "off". In other words you manually need to delay the midi tracks
triggering TI sounds routed to the analog or SPDIF out while the PlugIn is active. That's why they are
in sync when the PlugIn is not in use. This is a technical restriction which can't be worked around.

With best regards,

Joerg Huettner
Access Music Tech SupportI hope that they shall correct all the same this rather annoying problem.

[h4nc0]

That is not what my problem is....:(

[Timo]

you mean OS2.7 beta has an issues with the analog outs missing bass? i doubt that, at least it is not the case here and there.

marcWe are not talking about that!

Hi, the original postee is talking about that. Your post is a different issue. If you'd like to start a new thread on separate synchronisation problems then you can do. However it may be in vain as you will find it's the same with all digital audio routing. Digital processing incurs delays, as it needs time to process (followed by outputting) the signal. Digital signals communicated over USB (from your TI to your computer) will be out of sync when monitoring with direct analogue ones (from your TI straight to monitors) because of this issue. If you were to mixing them together it would create comb-filtering due to the different time-delays. This illustrates the measurable differences between the different types of outputs. You have to use a slightly different mentality depending on which you use to minimise problems. MIDI delay compensation is one of them.

In H4nc0's context, Marc was merely suggesting one of the connections on one of the two analogue cables (Left or Right) might have been the wrong way around (phase-inverted), which would effectively cancel the middle part of the middle-and-side (M&S) signal, depending on how you monitored the output, giving similar symptoms to H4nc0's problem regards having no low end.

Back on topic:

H4nc0, how are you listening to your TI? What is your analogue signal chain?

Ti > soundcard > monitors?

What gear (soundcard, etc.) are you using?

Balanced or unbalanced inputs/outputs?

TS or TRS cables?

[h4nc0]

Back on topic:

H4nc0, how are you listening to your TI? What is your analogue signal chain?

Ti > soundcard > monitors?

What gear (soundcard, etc.) are you using?

Balanced or unbalanced inputs/outputs?

TS or TRS cables?

1/4" TRS-> 1/4" TRS balanced cables do that. When I use 1/4" TRS-> XLR balanced cables, it works fine. I am using Prism Orpheus FW interface. It's not the cables because I have tested using different cables and different sources.

[h4nc0]

Also, I was bouncing a sketch today with the Snow running all 3 USB streams and found that the timing is all wacky. Most notably arps drifting and being in sync again and etc. Any idea? Nuendo 4 here.

SOLVED by using shorter USB cable. Sorry about this one.